Pa. DEP head says gas drilling will be done safely

[Altoid_Cyclist]

Pennsylvania’s top environmental official says the state will use tough enforcement when it comes to regulating natural gas drilling and that much of the opposition to drilling is “not based on science or fact.” (emphasis mine)

Department of Environmental Protection Secretary Michael Krancer told a natural gas industry conference in Philadelphia on Thursday much of the opposition is “ideologically based” and “not based on science or fact.” Krancer says Pennsylvania has the model program for oversight in the industry.

Krancer spoke to the Shale Gas Insight conference in place of Gov. Tom Corbett, a first-term Republican who had to cancel at the last-minute because of dangerous flooding conditions in parts of the state.

Activist groups protesting the conference say drilling is tainting wells and causing a public health hazard.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/apbreak11/AP-gasdrilling-2011-09-08


I was really hoping that things would change for the better once John Hanger left the PA DEP. It would appear that is not going to happen judging from inane remarks such as this one by Krancer.

WTF does he mean that those of us opposed to the wanton destruction of PA by the frackers aren't using science or fact backed rationale. There is plenty of science based evidence that this "clean energy" method is causing a lot of harm to the people, environment, animals, water supplies...etc of PA.

It really appears that the ANGA, API and the other fossil fuel parasites got the most from their $1,000,000 plus contributions to Corbett and his friends.

Ask the people in the Dimock area or the Washington county area or just about any area where fracking is taking place whether Krancer has his "facts" right. This ***hole seems to be right in step with Hanger who was generally regarded as the worst thing to ever happen to the PA DEP.

Hey Krancer...here are some facts that might interest you.

from Public Citizen citizen.org

"Exempts from the Safe Drinking Water Act a coalbed methane drilling technique called “hydraulic fracturing,” a potential polluter of underground drinking water. One of the largest companies employing this technique is Halliburton, for which Vice President Richard Cheney acted as chief executive officer in the 1990s. This exemption would kill lawsuits by Western ranchers who say that drilling for methane gas pollutes groundwater by injecting contaminated fluids underground. Only 16 companies stand to significantly benefit from this exemption from clean water laws: Anadarko, BP, Burlington Resources, ChevronTexaco, ConocoPhillips, Devon Energy, Dominion Resources, EOG Resources, Evergreen Resources, Halliburton, Marathon Oil, Oxbow (Gunnison Energy), Tom Brown, Western Gas Resources, Williams Cos and XTO. These companies gave nearly $15 million to federal candidates—with more than three-quarters of that total going to Republicans. Moreover, the 16 companies spent more than $70 million lobbying Congress.

More here: http://www.marcellus-shale.us/2005-Energy-Act.htm


From Donnan.com

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While natural gas may burn clean, it certainly isn't clean to extract. It's even been said that gas in shale requires more energy to extract than the gas will eventually produce. It takes hundreds of tanker loads to haul the one or two million gallons of water required for a single fracking. Then a large percentage of it has to be trucked back to a treatment plant. Fuel for trucks, generators, drill rigs and every other piece of equipment you can imagine. "Clean" energy???

Lots more here:
http://www.donnan.com/Marcellus-Gas_Hickory.htm

or here: http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/whats-fracking/

also:

http://www.splitestate.com/

http://palwv.org/issues/marcellusshale/Frac%20Action.pdf

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10159/1063980-455.stm

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/04/prweb5268984.htm


When you look at the players involved in this industrial pillaging, why the hell should we trust people like Cheney or companies like Halliburton and Enron?

[blue neen]

1. Next up, Gov. Tom Corbett Announces that the Tooth Fairy Now Has Oversight of PA Insurance Companies

Seriously, everything this administration does is THAT ludicrous.

[Altoid_Cyclist]

2. Ludicrous is being too kind.

Some days I wonder if it's worth fighting these people(also too kind) and what they're doing.

Luckily, at some point anger kicks in and makes me realize that we can't stop fighting Corbett and his cronies. Maybe people will finally wake up and realize that things are deteriorating at a much more rapid pace since Corbett was voted in. I actually know republicans who voted for him and have already seen the error of their ways. A little late perhaps, but maybe in time for the next election cycle.....

The sad part is that a lot of the people who voted for him have told me that they really didn't know much about him other than being the republican candidate. They say that if they had done more listening or reading before the election then maybe they would have made a better decision. No wonder they're trying to cut funding for education at all levels. Keep them stupid and voting republican is working well for them.

[blue neen]

3. Agree 100% with everything you said.

I also know lifelong Republicans who are having huge buyers' remorse about Governor Gashole.

It seems that what he and his cronies have done to the schools and the cuts in education for PA's children were the tipping point. His Marcellus Shale buddies get away with murder, but there's no money for the schools to even have libraries anymore.

The citizens are seeing their property taxes go up, services go down, and multi-international oil corporations pay NOTHING.

What a POS.

[Curmudgeoness]

4. Low-information voters are the bane of society.

I see this all too often. In fact, I call it no-information voters. Most voters are not keeping informed, and usually just vote for the party that they think represents them, or that their parents always voted for, or their friends tell them to vote for. All any of them had to do was just listen to Corbett to realize that he was an extremist.

There was a Republican voter who was given the Democrat primary ballot by mistake, and he didn't realize that he was voting on the wrong ballot until after he was done and had pushed all the buttons to finalize his vote. That was the point where I changed my mind about easy access to voting. There should be a simple test before you can cast a vote, like at least be able to name one candidate on the ballot.

[Altoid_Cyclist]

5. It would be interesting to see what would happen.

Some people I can forgive for not being at least a little in tune with what the candidates stand for. Others are simply not interested in the news or events happening in the world, which is a little hard to over look.

The thing that drives me up a wall is that in this area (as in many others...sigh), it seems as though 90% of the TV's in public locations such as hospitals are tuned to Faux news. There are so many people who just don't follow anything related to current news. You would hope that they would at least make an effort when it comes to electing their governor or president. Nope, they turn on Faux and vote which ever way they are told.

It is pretty hard not to say "I told you so" to some of my in-laws since they thought that Corbett was a great choice. The husbands of my wife's two sisters are good examples. They both seem to think that they are the smartest people ever born. One is in sales and the other one is an investment banker.They both thought that the gaseous one (Corbett) was a great choice becuase he was a republican. Before the election, I asked them what they knew about Corbett and they both said that he was the republican so that was whom they would vote for. I said but what do you know about his policies...not a thing as they now admit.

They both say that they would make a better choice if they could do it over. Well....this isn't "City Slickers" and you don't get a "do-over" until the next election.

At least they pay a little attention to the news now.

[Curmudgeoness]

6. I really don't mind people who are not interested in politics

or news or candidates. I realize that there are many people who don't care.

What I do mind is that some of these people vote. If you really are not interested in it all, then just don't vote. This is where I have real problems with these low-information (I just love that term---every time I read it I have come to substitute low-intellegence) voters. Just stay home, and if you feel you must vote, do a little rudimentary research. Grrrr. :mad:

[Frack Glop]

7. marcellus shale reality tour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5QqidiEEHw&feature=youtu.be
What the Gas Corps DON'T want you to see

[blue neen]

8. I'm bookmarking this to watch later.

I woke up with a headache and know that this will make me feel even worse!

Thank you for the info. This is the kind of thing that all Pennsylvanians need to see.

Welcome to DU and the PA forum! :)

[Altoid_Cyclist]

9. Thanks for this. I'll have to watch this later (darn DSL takes forever).

Welcome to the conversation and to the forum!

[badhair77]

10. I trust no one in this administration.