Time Magazine: Stinktorum is one of Top Evangelicals

[Yellow Horse]

February 7, 2005 issue, arrived in mail today.

:puke:

Also named, from PA, Luis Cortes of North Philly.

[The Sheik]

1. I thought he was the frothy mixture made by lubricant

and feces as a result of sodomy?

[Patiod]

2. Which is funny, because he's actually Roman Catholic

And, at least from what I've heard on "Christian" radio, them Catholics ain't real Christians - they aren't truly Bible-based and too much of their doctrine is just plain wrong.

[hopein08]

3. That's interesting

I had been wondering for a while now about whether or not Catholics can be considered evangelicals. So thanks for clearing that up for me, Patiod, before I even got around to asking!

Now I have to ask this...is there a particular religion which is associated with "evangelicals" or is kind of its own denomination?

Thanks and Thanks

[Patiod]

4. It depends who you ask

Catholics (I was raised Catholic but am now a Quaker, so I have a foot in neither camp) certainly believe they can be evangelical with a small "e" - if you define an evangelical as someone who spreads the Word of the Lord. And I'm sure there are many non-Catholic Christians who would believe that Catholics can be Evangelical as well.

Some Evangelicals believe that there are several Protestant faiths that can be considered Evangelical, and that even though Catholics are Christians, they're pretty much disqualified as Evangelicals because they don't believe you have to be "born again" to be saved, which is a cornerstone of Evangelicalism. http://www.equip.org/free/CP0800.htm

Many other fundamentalist "Christian" radio people basically look at Catholics as non-Christian cultists or heathens, and therefore a target for "conversion" (hence mission trips to Mexico and South America that target Catholics). Good explanation here

My Catholic mother asked her brand new next-door-neighbors if they were Catholic and they said "No! We're Christians!" Needless to say, my mother took pretty deep offense to that. Plus they told their 5 yo that "Catholics worship statues" and that's why he wasn't allowed in my parents' yard, where there is a St. Francis in the garden.

As far as religions - I think most Protestant denominations would consider themselves Evangelical.

[hopein08]

5. Thank you again!

You keep bringing up things that I hadn't even put together about Evangelicals before! I think I had heard about the "born again" factor before but I never drew the connecting line.

And, now that I think about it, it has always seemed kind of odd to have mission trips to countries that seem to be very firmly Catholic if you look at any pictures of the nation. It makes sense now!

I would have taken offense at your mother's new neighbors too. In today's society we have to be slightly more tolerant than that.

It also makes sense that at least some Protestant denominations would consider themselves Evangelical.

I guess I should say that I'm not entirely up on the religious issues because I was sort of raised Lutheran (haven't really been to church since I was about 12 -ten years or so-) and just graduated from a Catholic university. I'd like to think that I have an open mind about any religion. That's how I want others to see me.

Anyway, thank you again!