I keep hearing the helicopters from Ft. Campbell flying over.......

[southerncrone]

For the last 3 days, there have been lots of helicopters from Ft. Campbell flying over my house. I live in their flight path @ 50 miles away.

I can't help but worry about how many more lives will be lost in this damnnnn war! Apparently we are "SURGING" again! :(

Saw a sad & disturbing piece on news tonight that Ft. Dix is no longer holding memorial services for each individual fallen soldier. There have been too many lately. Now the military is offering wholesale volume-discount memorials for our dead soldiers!!!!! What's next? Mass burials when the body bags come home?!?! How uncaring!

PLEEEEEEASE Congress, IMPEACH BOTH NOW! :nuke:

[DeSwiss]

1. And jets...

...I've seen and heard what are clearly military jets. I've heard them more than seen then because its been a little cloudy lately. I'm about 50 miles south of Ft. Campbell. Haven't heard any helicopters yet. They must be going the other way....

[southerncrone]

2. Heli's are heading South, most are the hughey type.

I sometimes hear jets, but haven't had many lately. Just the heli's. I'm also 50 miles south of Ft. C. in the Burns/Fairview area. Where are you?

[DeSwiss]

3. Whites Creek (unincorporated village)...

...right off Clarksville Hwy. :)

[southerncrone]

4. I'm familiar with it.

I've not noticed this much activity since the beginning of the war. There is definitely something going on. What's your gauge of the jet activity?

[DeSwiss]

5. I'm not sure....

...I've lived in the same place since 83' and I've seen a number of helicopters, jets and the big boys, the C-130s flying overhead in military training operations.

Plus I'm a amateur birder and star-gazer too, so maybe I'm just looking up too much! :)

[southerncrone]

6. Me, too.

I also bird-watch & star-gaze. Have a great view since I'm "out in the country" away from the lights. Have basically a park-like setting, & feed birds to keep them around. Also quiet out here, so I can always hear the heli's & jets going over. Sometimes they are so low I think they are going to crash into the house!

[DeSwiss]

7. Yeah, I can relate to that too...

...my house is on the direct flight path that the TN National Guard uses to do their flyover at the start of Titans games. I don't even turn on the TV to watch the game until my teeth start vibrating....

:rofl:

The area where I live is under intense development now that all other areas of the city are built-up. When I first came here, all I saw were stars at night and heard crickets. Now its mostly the white noise of singing truck tires on highways and other aural urban detritus. And the streetlights make it problematic for star-gazing. So I sometimes go out further into the hills and higher up on the Highland Rim.

[southerncrone]

8. Unfortunately urban sprawl is beginning to hit us.

We moved here 14 yrs ago & it is amazing how much development has happened in this area since then. New subdivisions every couple of months. We own 27 ac. here & one of the reasons I have so much wildlife is their habitat is being destroyed by all of this development. We offer some of the last refuge for the critters. I-840 is about 2 miles from us & I also hear those truck tires whining...I preferred the crickets! In 4 yrs. kids will be out of college & if we still have any sort of an economy left in this country, we will probably look to move further out, maybe even move somewhere completely different. I like Mid TN but would like to experience some other horizons.

[DeSwiss]

9. OMG You sound just like me!

I've been here since 65' when my dad's church (he was a Fundie preacher) moved him here. It was truly culture shock coming here from Ohio right smack dab into the middle of the civil rights turmoil. I was not prepared. Before I knew what was happening, I was 1 of 75 black kids that intergrated an all-white HS of over 700 students. But I lived to tell the tale as they say.

But now my kids are all grown (with the exception of the 22-year old who's still finding himself), and I'm thinking about other horizons myself. My brother who stayed in Ohio all these years, just moved to Arizona last year. A retirement community. Blah!

I think I'd prefer a forested area or somewhere close to the sea. Preferrably both. I'm thinking Pacific Northwest. And the goodpart is its close to Canada if I find I just can't take it anymore. LOL! :)

[southerncrone]

10. We do have kinderd spirits.

I can't even imagine what moving to Nashville was like for you under those circumstances. I remember the sit-ins and turmoil of those times even though I was just a kid then, too. Those were truly bad times. Sometimes I think we have just traded the racial insensitivity for religious insensitivity now. Why must it always be an US v. THEM mentality. Americans need to do some evolving!

I've considered Pac NW, too for the same reasons, especially since it seems to be politically more attuned to our beliefs. The Canada deal figures in prominently, too! But I worry the dreariness of so much rain will just be too depressing. I think it's no wonder so many serial killers come out of Washington State--the dreariness drives them insane! Anyway, we have a few years to decide, if "the decider" doesn't make some decision for us by proxy! I think the next year is going to be very dicey.
My fingers are crossed & I'm preying for impeachment! (Yes, i did mean preying!);-)

[DeSwiss]

11. The biggest problem I had when I first got here....

...was just understanding what people were saying! LOL! But you're right, historically societies have always needed something on the order of the (Azazel) scapegoat. It makes even the lowliest bunch feel good about themselves when they at least have someone else they can look down upon. Religious insensitivity and racial intolerance to me just seems interchangeable. That along with sexism, jingoism and turning back all assaults against the patriarchy. Leaders of the state and religious institutions have always known that to keep people in-line and on the same page you find an object of derision and cast all the ills and problems upon their backs. I'm sort of a history buff as well, particularly with respect to religions and this element reappears over and over again in the histories of most societies.

As for the rain problems of the NW, its curious that you mention that because I recently read an article that said the wettest areas of the US are actually right where we are, the southeast. I think Seattle came in like 11th place or something. Still, I like the rain -- as long as its not out of control thunderstorms and tornadoes. When I was doing mostly consultant work in the 90s I traveled all over the US and the Pacific NW was always my favorite place. There, and New Orleans (pre-Katrina, although I'd never want to live there - its just too hot!).

As for the serial-killers. Hmmm.... Urban sprawl, serial-killers, urban sprawl, serial-killers, urban sprawl, serial-killers. Let me get back to you when I decide. hehe ;)

[southerncrone]

12. LOL!

You mean you couldn't understand our Southern Drawl?!? :rofl:

I don't consider myself a history buff, but have read enough to know that what you say about the recurring theme of religious narrow-mindedness, populous control & creation of wars does play over & over. It's a despicable sort of irony that those emersed in religion can't ever seem to comprehend.

That's interesting about the rainfall amounts. Of course now we can't beg for rain here, but normally, I know what you mean. Perhaps I should reconsider PNW. I was attracted to that area because it is always so GREEN from the rain. I like NC, too, but still have a lot of backassward people there, too.
Husband & I were planning on visiting NOLA the summer after Katrina hit, of course, we never got to do that. I'm not sure I could go there now, unless it was for humanitarian aid. Doubt I could stay there--would be too flat for me.

Well, DeSwiss, we will definitely have to converse again. Glad to get to know you. For now, I've got to hit the sack, didn't realize how late it is. DU has a way of consuming one & time just disappears; I get lost in here for hours!
Sweet dreams! :hi: