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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 03:59 PM
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9-Month-Old Had Blood-Alcohol Level Four Times Legal Limit, Police Say
Source: My Fox Chattanooga

Carrollton police found a baby sitter accused of feeding a 9-month-old boy wine, causing his blood-alcohol level to exceed four times the legal limit for an adult.

Carrollton police Sgt. Tony Johnson says authorities have found 40-year-old Tammy Demice Truitt of Carrollton. She was being sought on charges of first-degree cruelty to children and reckless conduct.

Police say Truitt was called to watch the baby and four other children ages 3 to 9 earlier this week when their mother had to leave town to care for a sick relative who has since died.

Doctors said the baby's blood-alcohol content of .33 was considered a life-threatening condition.

Johnson said the baby was released from the hospital on Wednesday and is doing fine.

Read more: http://www.myfoxchattanooga.com/dpp/news/national/9MonthOld_Had_BloodAlcohol_Level_Four_Times_Legal_Limit_Police_Say_00394044



Who's fault is it really if this kid can't hold his liquor? :evilgrin:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:01 PM
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1. This is a very sad story...
And your response is reprehensible.

Giving alcohol to a baby is inexcusable.

Period.

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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:03 PM
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2. Yeah, like I was serious...
:eyes:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:29 PM
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11. it's not funny
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:36 PM
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22. You're right. Post #7 was much funnier.
:)
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subcomhd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:31 PM
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12. You sir/m'am are worse than Hitler :-)
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:27 PM
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20. People have been giving alcohol (and laudanum) to babies for centuries.
I'm not defending this woman. I would be curious to know how much alcohol it takes to give a nine month old a .33 BAC.

Even when alcohol was given to children medicinally or as a sedative, I believe a teaspoon was the recommended dose, even less if it was cough medicine or laudanum.
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lakercub Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:01 AM
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45. Not entirely true

Giving alcohol to a baby is inexcusable.

As a teething remedy, a little bit of brandy rubbed on the gums was used for years, including by my parents. Granted we weren't drinking it, and it was just a tiny amount as a topical pain-killer, but it was effective and I am sure many still do it today. No harm was done and it is actually probably no more harmful (probably less harmful) than some medications specifically designed for the same purpose.

Giving it as a beverage, however, is nuts.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:06 PM
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3. Did this sort of thing happen 50 years ago and lack of coverage ensured it remained hidden?
Or like people no longer opening doors for others and people telling each other only to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, is feeding infants liquor a the latest step in a develuing, devolving "culture"?
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:09 PM
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5. I blame it on the fact that men are no longer required to where
fedoras and suits wherever they go. Once jeans and t-shirts were allowed, society went downhill.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:12 PM
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6. Don't forget desegregation and the banning of prayer from schools
Everything went to shit after those two commie policies went into effect.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:26 PM
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9. Good one!
:)
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maglatinavi Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 01:31 AM
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46. good one
what is so good about it??? are you retard or what?
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:27 PM
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10. It happened 100 years ago all the time
One way to keep the kids from getting cholera or diarrhea from water borne diseases was to give them alcoholic beverages.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:35 PM
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13. there's a difference between a spoonful of brandy for medicinal purposes and
pouring shots of booze down a kid's throat just for the hell of it. At least the people in your example were trying to do something beneficial using the best information they had available. This woman had no such motive.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:51 PM
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15. I agree 100%. I was when people stopped opening doors.
Edited on Sat Jul-18-09 04:53 PM by TheEuclideanOne
The only intelligent conclusion anybody coud arrive at. The natural next step is for babysitters to start feeding alcohol to babies. Sure, makes perfect sense to me. :sarcasm:
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:08 PM
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4. I was 4 years old when I was first 'officially' drunk..seems I loved the taste of beer
(still do) and my parents had a party the night before and when my mother was out and my dad was napping, I drained all the 'empty' bottles they had stored for return. My mother said I was 'swinging from the draperies'? I don't remember, maybe cause I was drunk, or maybe cause I was four?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:24 PM
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7. Police discovered this crime...
...when a neighbor spotted the child weaving down the sidewalk in one of these:

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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:25 PM
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8. Wow....
Hahahaha.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:39 PM
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14. Seriously, folks, .33 is very close to dead
.4 is generally considered the point at which death occurs.

That's not weaving down the road in a kiddie car. That's not slipping a little alcohol into a bottle for "medicinal" purposes (although I don't think that was ever a good idea, anyway).

For a 20 lb child, that is less than a half glass away from killing him.
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National Steel 27 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:22 PM
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35. Somewhere between Invisible and Bulletproof
"Mankind's Ten Stages of Drunkenness"

0). A Zero is sober
1). Witty and Charming
2). Rich and Powerful
3). Benevolent
4). Clairvoyant
5). F**k Dinner
6). Patriotic
7). Crank Up the Enola Gay
8). Witty and Charming, Part II
9). Invisible
10). Bulletproof

I spend most of my evenings between #8 and #9.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:28 PM
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36. Less than that
Most of the online BAC calculators won't do a 20 lb weight. That's assuming, of course, that the baby is of average weight--the range for a healthy baby is 15 to 24 pounds.

You'd assume that the wine would be drunk in one sitting--it's hard to imagine even someone this irresponsible giving multiple servings. According to the BAC at http://health.discovery.com/tools/calculators/alcohol/alcohol.html , two drinks of wine for a 20 pound person in one hour gives a BAC of .581 for a female and .489 for a male. My infant is 10 months old, and takes 6 ounces of formula at a feeding. I bet they gave one full 6 ounce bottle of wine.

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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 11:23 PM
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41. That's a different calculator than the one I used.
Here's the one I used: http://www.intox.com/wheel/drinkwheel.asp

2.5 glasses (in an hour) puts a 20 lb girl at .337, and 3.0 glasses puts it at .433 (The gender difference doesn't appear until somewhere around puberty - but all the calculators include it since they probably weren't thinking about infant blood alcohol content).

Your calculator and mine are probably using different size glasses of wine (since neither specified the size).
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downindixie Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:02 PM
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16.  I find it hard to believe
that a child this young could have drank enought wine to read a .33.He should have gone to sleep long before a .33.Did they do a blood test on the child? Surely he couldn't blow .33 in a breath test.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:21 PM
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17. Having just recently started feeding my daughter with the odd bottle
...of mom's milk, I am astounded at how quickly they will down it, given the chance.

Fill one with wine and she could finish it before you recite the pledge of allegiance.

Awful tale.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:22 PM
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18. The smaller the drinker's body, the fast the alcohol level rises. Wouldn't
Edited on Sat Jul-18-09 05:23 PM by No Elephants
Take anywhere near as much for a baby as it would for an adult male.

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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:51 PM
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24. I closed the BAC calculator - but I think it was about 2.5 drinks
for 20 pounds.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:31 PM
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21. Are nine month olds independent enough to drink from a bottle?
I remember taking a swig of wine or sherry from a carafe when I was about four or five, but I don't think I got myself drunk. I thought it was interesting i flavor, but didn't really care for it. I liked Kool Aid mixed with orange juice and milk.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:08 PM
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31. Or a cup, sure.
They can be pretty coordinated if they're taught.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:20 PM
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34. Not that kind of bottle
I'm sure it was put into a baby bottle.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:30 PM
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37. It wouldn't take much
Babies drink. It's one of the things they do best. They can even drink when sleepy. My guess is they probably gave this baby about six ounces of wine. My baby can polish off six ounces of formula in five or ten minutes.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:27 PM
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19. myfox.
:puke:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:38 PM
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23. what is wrong with people!!! why would you feed alcohol to a baby or a child at all!!!
granted, at 12, the new year before my mom died she gave me a sip of her wine cooler.... but come on!! I would never give my children alcohol. We don't usually have any around here anyway. But how much did that kid drink to be that drunk!!
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:55 PM
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25. You don't think Kids get it from Breast Milk? Think again.
While mom is knocking back a beer to relax, the infant is getting ready to become predisposed to alcoholism.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 06:30 PM
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26. I am NOT recommending drinking while breastfeeding
but the alcohol content in breastmilk is (at most) the BAC of the mother. Since dead is around .4%, it is lower than that. Social drinking typically results in a BAC in the range of .08% to .2% (legally drunk, but not still relatively functional). Non-alcoholic beer is permitted up to .5% - so the (lower) alcohol content of breastmilk is not significant enough to be legally considered an alcoholic beverage.

I didn't even drink coffee while I was breastfeeding - let alone alcohol - BUT doing so is a far cry from feeding alcohol directly to the child (rather than first processing it through a human).
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 10:45 PM
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39. My pediatrician recommended I drink a beer every day while I
was breastfeeding. She said it helped with milk production. That was 29 years ago. Never hurt my kid (cucumbers did - those caused truly impressive projectile vomiting).

And no, he's not an alcoholic - he's a yoga practicing vegan . . .
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 11:11 PM
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40. It was tomatoes that did my kid in.
For women who have problems relaxing about breastfeeding it probably helps at least from that aspect (and 29 years ago it was hard not to have problems relaxing about it - I had to fight off my parents, my inlaws, and siblings 19 years ago - 29 years ago it was even worse).

As for aiding production - I had my doubts, did a quick search and found this (after I wrote the above comment): http://www.parenthood.com/article-topics/does_alcohol_aid_lactation.html
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 11:57 PM
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42. Not surprised - I suspect she told me that because I was
freaking out over not having enough milk (I never did - continued to feed, but had to supplement so he got enough nourishment) - so the relaxation aspect was probably paramount in her decision process. I wouldn't have taken a drink if it had been for "psychological reasons" because I didn't like the taste of alcohol at when I was younger.

I drank the requisite beer a day like it was medicine!

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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:02 AM
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43. For some reason that thought never occurred to me
(not having enough milk). It sure freaked out my SIL and MIL - the former just asked about it. The latter threatened to supplement feedings and stick cereal in the bottle. Fortunately, my little one didn't like any food container other than mom until she was old enough to drink from a cup so the latter never became an issue.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:22 PM
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32. huh?? where did that come from??
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 06:48 PM
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27. Actually, there was a time when this was considered ethical.

And not only wine, opium was given to children to keep them quiet.

It was done in the 19th and early 20th century.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 06:57 PM
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28. Not to mention that many of us had alcohol rubbed on our gums while teething
with no ill effects.

What happened here was reprehensible, but so is the reaction of the a few of the busy-bodies here.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 07:30 PM
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29. yup whisky on the gums to soothe the pain
also whisky with lemon and honey for cold relief, im shocked that earlier generations actually managed to survive without the busybodies of today telling them how to raise their kids.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:11 AM
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44. My point was that people shouldn't be so shocked, "shocked I tell ya."

I remember when driving drunk wasn't a charge, it was an excuse.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:31 PM
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38. As featured in "There Will Be Blood."
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greengestalt Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 07:49 PM
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30. This'll shut you up you crying brat...
Least it wasn't Ludes...


In my City in a nearby township a lady got convicted a few years ago of feeding kids drugs at her daycare center. Valium, I think. She fed it to 'em for years as either 'vitamins' or in snacks. Just to shut the brats up so they wouldn't turn feral like "Lord of the Flies." Then some weakling-uh, excuse me, some kid with an allergy of pre-existing condition died. Then the law was all high and mighty and threw the book at her and the media demonized her and end of story...

Reminded me of a "Neurotically Yours" involving Pill-Z the squirrel and his daycare...


Well, sorry to be so "Non-PC" but the real problem is that-

1. People need to work too many hours for too little money, so they don't have time to raise their kids.
2. People are too weak willed to just Unionize and shut down the whole system if they don't get decent pay, hence the constant slide to destitution.
3. They are paid so little, despite working so hard, they'll leave their kids in a "Cheap" daycare center as long as they don't have a Catholic Priest openly molesting kids as they walk in the door.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:22 PM
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33. At least the baby had enough integrity
Not to get behind a wheel.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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