Since when do the schools give the option of paddling?

[Not_Giving_Up]

I know they did it when I was a kid, but thought it was long gone. Today, my kids went back to school. On the form that I had to sign to prove I got the handbook was a section to check whether or not I gave permission for spanking or paddling. This school is grades 4-6 only. What gives??

[lynettebro440]

1. Welcome to the 70's

We are living back in time. Take my word for it, it sucked royally.

[Beaver Tail]

2. I got the strap in grade school

and I sill detest the teacher who did. I’m very much against corporal punishment. That is the parent’s responsibility.

[Not_Giving_Up]

4. Yeah, I was a kid in the 70s, so I remember

I checked NO...I remember the stories on the news about teachers and principals who lost it and kids to near death. No thank you!

[cssmall]

3. I thought that corporeal punishment was outlawed?

Am I on crack or did I miss the boat?

[Not_Giving_Up]

5. I'm wondering the same thing

I know I'm not on crack, but I don't recall missing that boat.

[Not_Giving_Up]

6. Just found this

http://www.stophitting.com/disatschool/facts.php#U.S.%20States%20Banning%20Corporal%20Punishment

It seems that Texas does not have a ban. Only 27 states do, as a matter of fact. So, it looks like they leave it to the district. We've been inthis district for three years now, and I've never seen that in the paperwork before. I guess they've decided to see how it works.

[happyslug]

7. Technically Spanking is NOT illegal in most states.

Some state have outlawed Spanking but I doubt Texas is one of them. On the other hand when it comes to Children with Disabilities a Individual Education Process (IEP) has to be done on each child. The Disability Community advises it members NOT to agree to any corporal punishment or expulsions in the IEP. Under Federal Law, the IEP governs discipline actions against such disabled children even if the Schools regulations are different (FOr example if the School Regulation says if you do X you are suspended, but the IEP says no suspension the child can NOT be suspended).

To get around this rule, various School Districts want parents to agree to terms the Schools wants in IEPs. Thus if you register your child and sign the permission slip and than it is determined that your child ban benefit from educational Assistance (The test for disability for children) the school can use the previous permission slip to force you to agree to permit suspension or spanking EVEN IF THAT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DISABLED CHILD.

Thus the big push for "Spanking" and to have you agree, to help the schools defeat Parents who do NOT want such treatment for their disabled Children.

[Not_Giving_Up]

8. My sixth grader has an IEP

He's an Aspie and ADHD. When he was in first grade, I had a principal ask if we spanked him. I told her that when it was necessary yes, but that most of the time it just made his meltdowns worse. She suggested that we spank him, but never that the school should.

If they try to deny anything to him because they think that he needs his butt warmed, they are in for a fight.

[happyslug]

9. Good, make sure the IEP says No Suspension no Corporal Punishment.

Some schools hate such clauses but you have the right to have it is the IEP. If the School wants to be able to suspend (Which is what most schools fight for more than spanking) say no and refuse to sign the IEP and ask for a hearing. Under Federal Law you have a right to such a hearing regarding any dispute as to what should be in the IEP.

As to discipline I have not had much problems with Schools and Children with Aspergers (Or other Autistic Children) mostly because they tend to be quite individuals (I have had some problems regarding what the Autistic child needs to help him or her learn but NOT as to Discipline).

The opposite is true of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorders (ADHD) and the related Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD). Schools want such kids on drugs (Which you can refuse) and be able to suspends them when they misbehave (Which you must oppose in the IEP).

As to Drugs for ADHD and ODD, if the Schools recommend them I tell my client to say no. On the other hand if your child's doctor is recommending medication I will tend to tell you to agree. I have found that many school teachers want kids medicated for the children are thus easier to handle, but kids being active is part of growing up and thus should NOT be restricted through medication (Proper Discipline should be sufficient).

On the other hand I have had several Parents in my office whose child needed mediation to be able to function. These tend to be severe cases and the Child's Doctors is the person who makes the recommendation for Medication (Not the Child's Teacher and NOT the Parents). I have had some bad cases where medication is not only called for but helped the child but on all of these cases it is the Doctor who first suggest medication.

[Not_Giving_Up]

10. I'm well versed in the world of ARD and IEP

When the only diagnosis we had was ADHD, I had a teacher say "I've had ADHD children before and they didn't act like this!" My response was basically, well, too bad lady, because this one does. Back then he had a hard time relating to the other kids and would physically strike if he didn't like what was happening.

He has since learned that he can't do that without big trouble, so he now just shuts down. He refuses to talk, make eye contact, or even acknowledge that someone is talking to him. He is on Concerta for the ADHD, and there is a definite difference in him. He sees a therapist weekly, and talks to her, but he refuses to talk to the school counselor (he just doesn't like her).

Last year, he had three wonderful teachers, and was only sent to the office once all year. He tried out for choir and made it, did the xmas show and the big "look at all of the choirs in the district" show held at the high school. He has friends that spend the night, and he spends the night with them.

I requested to meet with his new teachers ASAP to go over the IEP. Last year, the teachers knew that an IEP existed, but no one ever told them what was in it. After one major blowout, I sat the teachers down and explained how to handle him when things got difficult. I explained the (very few) modifications that are made for him in the classroom. They listened, took my advice, and I got several calls to tell me that I did indeed know my child. Hopefully we can have another productive year.

[moc]

11. Yes, it's done.

My husband is a therapist who works with children who were abused. He had to explain to the principal at a school where some of his patients attend why it wasn't appropriate to paddle them. :eyes: