Question about Kinky('s) supporters

[ashling]

I have a couple of good friends at work who say they are for Kinky for gov. One has a brother at UT and he is always telling me that "everybody" at UT is for Kinky.

Somebody from Austin please give me some good hard info. to give him to refute this. .

[GOPisEvil]

1. Kinky has tapped into the politically ignorant voter.

When I ask any of them what the man actually stands for, none of them know, or they know one position. They just think it would be cool to have a guy named Kinky for Governor.

I'm going to stop calling him that. He's Richard, dammit.

[PDittie]

2. Some good info here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=180&topic_id=29760&mesg_id=29760

[NoPasaran]

3. Mr. Friedman seems to have a lot of support

Among people who don't vote. This is not a surprise; after all, he is one of them.

[Czolgosz]

4. lol

[ashling]

5. Not so funny if they vote for the Dickhead this time

It wasn't too long ago that we were all slapping ourselves on the back for getting people involved in the process. We were congratulating people who had admitedly been uninvolved who came out to support Dean, or Clark, or....(pick your progressive Democrat).
And with good reason.

Well, now they are enthralled by this idiot with the cigar.

Rather than making fun of them, we should be getting them behind our guy.

[ashling]

6. What I am asking is

what level of support is this clown getting at the University of Texas. And more generally what level of support is he getting from college students?

[PDittie]

7. Well, I don't know the answer to this question

but there's been some discussion about this on BOR. You'll have to poke around over there, I guess.

Support for any candidate among the college-age set has proven ephemeral at best.

[Czolgosz]

8. Lol for the observation that Kinky has support among people who don't vote

because he is one of them.

The Kinky novelty/vanity candidacy is not funny.

Remind everyone of these 10 good reasons not to sign Kinky's petition (from http://stopkinky.blogspot.com/):

1. Kinky's own website quotes Kinky telling the New York Times, "I'm not pro-choice." Elsewhere on Kinky's website he SIMULTANEOUSLY claims Kinky believes in a woman's right to choose (apparently, Kinky's also believes he can have his cake and eat it, too).

2. At a recent death penalty trial, Kinky testified under oath that although "he used to support the death penalty, Friedman told jurors he's now against it." Yet Kinky's website also says "Kinky is not anti-death-penalty," and this blatant contradiction of Kinky's testimony under oath is exactly what Kinky told CBS News.

3. Kinky gave an interview to Susannah McNeely of Ruminator magazine where Kinky said "I voted for Gore" in 2000 "I was conflicted ... but I was not for Bush that time. Since then, though, we’ve become friends. And that’s what’s changed things.... I agree with most of his political positions overseas, his foreign policy.... What he’s been doing in the Near East and in the Middle East, he’s handling that well, I think." Yet that's clearly a lie because according to Kerr County voting records, Friedman voted in the 2004 presidential general election but not in any other contest since 1994.

4. Kinky wants to take money generated from sales tax and other state revenue sources and give that money away only to Texas property owning corporations and people with those owning the most valuable property getting the biggest windfall (Live in an apartment? Tough! Do you live in a modest house? Too bad!).

5. On a November 8, 2005, Kinky appeared on a nationally televised CNBC news program, where he was asked about his views on criminal punishment. Kinky replied, "Throw 'em in prison and throw away the key, and make 'em listen to a Negro talking to himself." When asked whether his use of the word "Negro" was racist, Kinky replied "no ... it's a charming word."

6. Kinky would address Texas' public education funding crisis by letting "the corporate sector bid on funding athletics." (What exactly does Kinky think the corporations will be getting from our children in exchange for their high bids?

7. Kinky proposes to deal with immigration issues by building a wall along the Texas-Mexico border and by outsource our border security to five Mexican generals who we'd pay based on how successfully they kept immigrants from crossing the border into Texas.

8. Kinky supports school prayer and posting the Ten Commandments in Texas classrooms (no word on whether Kinky has decided to post the Hebrew, Catholic, or Protestant version of the "Ten Commandments").

9. Kinky hasn't even gotten on the ballot yet, and he's already offered the top political appointment to make his biggest campaign contributor Secretary of State for Texas.

10. Kinky's candidacy is aimed a drawing votes from young, progressive voters who do not know where he stands on many issues, and yet Kinky has run for office before as a Republican, the only time Kinky said he voted for a Democrat in the past decade it turned out that Kinky lied and didn't vote, Kinky did however vote for Bush/Cheney in 2004 and that proved to be the truth, Kinky has numerous Perry-supporting Republicans financially backing his petition drive, and if Kinky can draw off any significant number of progressive votes his candidacy will have the nearly certain effect of guaranteeing the re-election of arch-Republican Rick Perry. While Kinky supporters clearly learned nothing from Nader Florida campaign in 2000, you can't say the Perry campaign or Kinky didn't.

[TexasThoughtCriminal]

15. #7 makes no sense at all

Just goes to show that Kinky doesn't think about his hare-brained ideas. Why in the hell would you hire five foreign generals for your own border security? Not to mention the fact that those five generals have sworn to uphold their own constitution and their own country's security and welfare. This should explode in Kinky's face, just like the Dubai ports deal.

[cannabis_flower]

32. Well, I have a link to ..

explain the plan as I have heard it. Not that I think it's necessarily a good plan or a bad plan. Just clarification of what the plan is.

Here is a link to the plan:

http://socialsense.blogspot.com/2005/07/friedman-solves-immigration-problem.html

Says Friedman, “To each of them , we hold $1 million in a bank account, and we withdraw $5,000 every time we catch an illegal alien coming through his jurisdiction. Folks, this will work!”

[Czolgosz]

33. Kinky wants to invite foreign armies to police our southern border and you

are undecided whether that's a good plan or a bad plan?

Were you in the country when everyone went apeshit because a United Arab Emirates company almost got the contract to run of few American ports? If you remember that fiasco, how can you question whether inviting five Mexican generals to oversee our border security is a good idea?

Kinky's "Five Mexican Generals" plan to outsource our border security goes beyond qualifying as a merely "bad" idea; Kinky's half-baked scheme raises questions about his mental health.

[cannabis_flower]

35. Well, I didn't mean ...

I was undecided. What I meant was that I did not particularly have an opinion on the plan. I guess it sort of depends on whether they are authorized to actually cross our border to keep mexicans from getting in. Even if they weren't authorized to cross the border, I could still see there being problems. My statement was intended to convey that I WASN'T endorsing it and I really hadn't thought much about it but I knew exactly what the plan was.

[crispini]

34. Why not take the $5 million and use it to crack down on the people

who hire the illegal workers? Because 1) that would make too much sense 2) it would work and 3) it would piss people off.

[cannabis_flower]

36. well, as I said..

I don't endorse this program, just clarifying what the program actually was.

[Rocket Surgeon]

9. I don't think he has the power to make our state any

more fucked up. Face it, our state government is a complete joke.

[Czolgosz]

10. Oddly, Kinky DOES have to power to fuck the state up worse. Kinky has the

power to divide the anti-incumbent vote by three (Bell-4n3p-Kinky) instead of just two (Bell-4n3p) which will significantly magnify Perry's chances of re-election which would definitely fuck up the state worse than it is already fucked up.


JUST SAY 'NO' TO KINKY!

[Rocket Surgeon]

11. Governor is just a figure head, it is

the Lieutenant Governor who really runs the show in Austin.

[Czolgosz]

12. Yeah? So did the Lieutenant Governor call all those special sessions?

We have a weak governor system of state government, but the governor still has more power than we ought to trust in the hands of a Christofascist like Perry or a joke like Kinky.

[Longhorn]

13. The governor also vetos,

as Perry did, without showing any leadership on the issues, surprising even members of his own party.

[Czolgosz]

18. Shit, Perry's special sessions tipped the Texas Congressional Delegation

from Democratic to Republican.

[Texaroo]

20. Well, technically, that was Tom DeLay's Special Session...

...but I get your drift. It shows you that a bribe to the Gov can go a pretty long way. I mean in theory. I wouldn't want to impugn our Governor by suggesting that redistricting wasn't a vital and compelling reason to call for a special session...

[Czolgosz]

21. It was DeLay's idea, but a congressman cannot call the Texas Legislature

into special session (even once, let alone three times). Only a toady governor who's serving as the corrupt congressman's bitch can do that.

Perry was DeLay's enabler, and DeLay's illegal redistricting scheme could not have been implemented without Perry's corrupt participation. Or as my daughter would say, if DeLay is Voldemort, Perry is his Malfoy.

[Texaroo]

22. Excellent - but tell her Perry's more like his Umbridge.

Malfoy is far too slick and competent by comparison. I know the rules - was just agreeing with you that the Governor has sufficient influence to be worth a bribe or be susceptible to political extortion.

Kinky would be horrible - he doesn't have a plan for governing. He barely has a campaign. I think THAT's the best talking point of all.

[muse]

14. And our figurehead governor sometimes becomes the President

of the United States of America.

[ashling]

24. Great campaign message

vote for me because the job is not very important anyway. :sarcasm:

[Rocket Surgeon]

25. To clear something up, that is what Kinky has said in interviews...

it is in no way an idea of my own design.

[ashling]

28. No offense, that sounds so like the MSM

not your design, but he's spouting it ... you apparently bought it ... and now your selling it as the truth.

[ChickMagic]

16. He's going to be our Ralph Nader

Total spoiler. I only hope that Carolyn McClellan Keeton Rylander Strayhorn does
the same for the pukes.

on edit: I can't keep track of all her last names!

[Texaroo]

17. As for Carol...

It's a mnemonic thing:

She used Keeton when she was drawing Democrat attention to her Daddy, Dean Keeton, who was very popular in Austin.

McClellan is like her son, the monkey's mouthpiece.

Rylander was the one whom, um, disappeared in a very quiet divorce (there were some interesting rumors about the nature of his alleged extramarital activities).

Strayhorn now has a home as her husband....and is apparently also why she divorced the former husband.

[ChickMagic]

19. Ah, thanks for the explanation.

It's like keeping up with Liz Taylor's husbands!
Soo Keeton is her maiden name - I wasn't sure about
that.

[StellaBlue]

23. I just call her Carol Fournames n/t

[sonias]

27. On this board it's c4n3p

Thanks to Czolgosz for that one. At least that's the poster I first read use it.

Carole 4 names 3 parties.

Sort of like 3CPO from Star Wars but with much more flip floppinesses. I overhead a republican woman say "Carole Strayhorn, I wouldn't vote for her. She can't keep a marriage together, how's she going to handle the state."
:rofl:

Sonia

[VelmaD]

37. Get it right...it's

Carol Keeton Rylander McClellan Strayhorn Cougar Melloncamp Jingleheimer Schmidt

[Rocket Surgeon]

26. I think a lot of it is COMPLETE apathy...

Note this is only my opinion.

I don't follow local politics much, but Austin appears to be a complete joke.

For one, Texas schools are at the bottom of the heap nationwide. I still have yet to meet anybody at my workplace who would send their kids to the Houston ISD. In other words the upper middle class I associate with, have zero faith in the public school system. It is too broke to fix and a switch from R to D will not change it. These upper class folk are the same people who pay the bulk of property taxes. Lord knows that they do not want to pay more property taxes for schools they do not send their kids to.

Environmental regulations are low in our state making Houston a smog and ozone magnet. If you think I am joking take a look at the Dickens era industrial landscape of beautiful Texas City! Special interest money will prevent any real change from occurring in that department.

Our parks and monuments are underfunded. The Battleship at San Jac is a bucket of rusty bolts. Maintenance is next to zero. Our local government doesn't even bother to protect or rich cultural heritage (Texan). I thought Texans are supposed to have pride.

I have zero faith that anything will change under the Democrats as it is too big of a mess even for the most well intentioned and competent people. More importantly the conservative element will always be present to fuck up any meaningful change the Democrats try to enact.

In apathy we say, "Fuck it, let's vote Kinky for shits and giggles! On the bright side we aren't quite Louisiana or Mississippi!". The only silver lining is that we are afforded the privilege of no state income tax. Other than that, Texas is a very fucked up place.

[derby378]

29. I tried blanketing our precinct with anti-Kinky fliers last night

It's a hell of a job for one person to tackle - I couldn't complete it, but I hope I made some progress.

[sonias]

30. Where did you get your fliers?

I would do that in my neighborhood. He still has until May 11th to keep getting signatures.

Sonia

[derby378]

31. I made my own

Adapted it from this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=180x30340