8-Year-Old Charged For Sexual Conduct With Sitter

[ECH1969]

A mother is upset after a 14-year-old babysitter engaged in sexual conduct with her eight-year-old boy, and the eight-year-old was charged with lewd conduct.

The sexual conduct occurred during a game of “truth or dare” while the boy was being watched by the babysitter.

Prosecutors say that, while the babysitter initiated the contact, the young boy was a willing participant.

“She dared my son to touch her breasts,” says Michelle Grosbeck, the boy’s mother.

http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_210004013.html

[Beaver Tail]

1. HELLO?

He is EIGHT.

What a Fucking STOOPID DA. How in the hell do people like this become DAs in the 1st place?

[xultar]

2. ?????????? ???????????? ????????????

[Puglover]

3. So lets see..

when my cousins and I played Doctor when we were kids were we all guilty of lewd behavior?
Jesus. :eyes:

[xultar]

20. That is exactly what I wanted to say but I was too speechless.

[GCP]

4. WTF - he was 8 years old, for God's sake

WTF were they thinking? He had as much culpability as any molested child - ie NONE

What an insane DA.

[BiggJawn]

5. But they didn't charge the babysitter?

What if it had been a 14 y-o BOY and he dared a 8-y-o girl to touch his penis? I know who'd be in jail on THAT one...

Can an 8 year old be expected to know what "lewd conduct" even IS? Isn't this why we have a seperate Juvenile "justice" system, which views children who break the law as "offenders", not "criminals"?
I read once that's why they don't like to put children in the box in criminal trials, because it's assumed that youngsters do not have a developed sense of right and wrong.

What's next? they gonna arrest the BABY who nurses off his mom in public?

This is just SO whacked.

[Niccolo_Macchiavelli]

8. i was posting the same on the in meantime locked tread

about the baby and nursing

[rocktivity]

6. And the 14-year-old got zip???

Prosecutors say that, while the babysitter initiated the contact, the young boy was a willing participant...

The district attorney’s office confirmed the charges had been made, and that they had been dropped. Other than that, they wouldn’t comment. The Division of Child and Family Services also declined to comment.

The district attorney’s office should try on this comment for size: "You're fired!"

:grr:
rocknation

[LincolnMcGrath]

7. I know what many EvilDUers would say if the boy was 22 instead of 8

:wow: One can only wonder what the charges would be if a 14 yr old boy had dared an eight year old to touch his junk.

[LincolnMcGrath]

9. Where the hell am I?

How did I get to UTAH? :rofl:

[Ian David]

10. This is insane

<snip>
“It was just that sense that something wasn’t quite right with this 14-year-old girl,” she said. She asked her son what had happened. “He just came right out as if nothing was awry, and just started talking about what had happened.”

Grosbeck went to police and child protection workers, and the case went to the district attorney, after which her son, age eight, had been charged with an act of lewdness with a minor.

<snip>

Although the charges against her son were dropped, she is concerned that the same thing could happen to other victims of sexual abuse.

“I don’t want parents to be afraid to go to the state agencies that are supposed to be protecting our children when things like this happen, out of fear that their children are going to be charged.

More:
http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_210004013.html

Unless there is something earth-shakingly strange about what happened, then this is insane...

It seems to me more like the DA has a problem admitting that a boy can be the victim of sexual abuse at the hands of a girl.

[anarchy1999]

12. Okay, this is it. I'm signing off the computer for the day while I

try to wrap my head around this one. Any Lewis Black friends out there? It goes with the horse.

[Divernan]

11. Who knew Jenna Bush was babysitting in Salt Lake City!?!?

Seriously, this was reported in Salt Lake City - maybe the women as chattel attitude of the Mormon elders dictates that women cannot be held responsible for controlling their sexual urges?

[bliss_eternal]

13. Is this DA on crack?

:wtf:

[kestrel91316]

14. No, he is just a Utah DA - something WRONG with that place!!

This is, after all, the same state that passed the "Sunday Closing Law" when I lived there in the early 1970s that said all businesses except places like gas stations and hospitals HAD to close all day Sunday. I guess because everybody was supposed to be in church (the correct one, of course, that had services on Sunday rather than Saturday). The small Jewish populace and even smaller Seventh Day Adventist populace were not amused. Neither were the appeals courts, and the law was soon overturned.

Things are rotten in Utah.

[bliss_eternal]

15. Oh wow--I hadn't heard about this.

Did they think they were just going to drive away the people that didn't practice the religion they felt was best/most appropriate (with that law)?

That's pretty bizarre...

[Ian David]

16. They must be drinking water from The Great Salt Lake n/t

[Ian David]

17. For what it's worth, Xians and Mormons aren't the only ones that do this

In my mom's old neighborhood, a group of Orthodox Jews wanted certain streets closed to traffic Friday nights to Saturday nights, during the Jewish Sabbath.

Their rationale wasn't that they didn't want other people "sinning," but that it was dangerous for themselves walking to Synagogue on certain streets where they might get hit by a car.

Closing some streets instead of all the streets or stores, and doing it for safety reasons, seems somewhat better.

Towns do, after all, close streets for parades and protests-- even religiously-based ones. Hopefully on a non-preferential basis.

In fact, if that was my neighborhood, I think I could have lived with it. It was, after all, a safety issue. I'd have been annoyed, yes. I'd have written some complaint letters to the mayor and local papers. But I wouldn't have been picketing City Hall over it.

Being Jewish myself-- and doing my fair share of Sabbath-walking-- I kind of understand.

However, this is what pissed me off:

In the absence of this law, they would park all their cars overnight ILLEGALLY along the sides of the streets during the Sabbath.

Why?

At first I thought it was to demonstrate their devoutness: "Do you see my car? That means I'm not driving on the Sabbath. god Loves me!" Then I realized: they all have driveways.

I found out they did this to force all the non-Orthodox people to slow-down while they themselves are walking to Synagogue.

It kind of worked, except for the fact that drivers risked head-on collisions on the narrower streets.

The kicker?

Those very same people who wanted safer streets during the Sabbath drove like maniacs themselves during the rest of the week!

And if you signaled them to slow-down, they'd give you the finger.

That has nothing to do with religion. That's just rude.

Bonus points- Irony and rudeness combined:

Those same people who would walk all the way to Synagogue and back every weekend were too lazy to get out of their cars and use a doorbell. Instead, if they were picking someone up, they'd pull into their driveway and honk their horn!

I used to have fun stopping in front of the houses of particularly annoying people, honking my horn, and driving off.

Or using my remote car alarm to sit in the house and honk my horn, and then watch as the neighbor across the street opened his door-- at 10 PM.

[kestrel91316]

18. OMG, you are describing MY neighborhood ...............

I live an area of Los Angeles with many Orthodox Jews (many from Iran, BTW) and they are TERRIBLE drivers when they do drive!! And the rude ones honking their horns rather than parking and going to the door, that describes several of my meighbors to a T!!! LOL

When they do walk on the sabbath, they often pay little or no attention to cars and risk getting hit. And they often walk in the streets rather than on our NICE SIDEWALKS PROVIDED FOR THE PURPOSE.

:wtf: :shrug:

[Ian David]

19. FWIW, the drivers in that neighborhood- Jew and Non-Jew alike

are awful, terrible, scary drivers.

I used to think they were the worst in the world, until I drove from Boston to Miami and back and experienced Darwin's Hunting Ground (Route 95) through The South.

:scream:

[Drunken Irishman]

22. It's a she and a shame.

She won a very close election over the Democrat, and replaced a Democrat who retired after years of service.

[WhereIsPeter]

21. Where Is Peter?

so, where is Peter Del Valle with his usual rant about all sex offenders needing to be shipped off to a colony?