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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:42 AM
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McGavik will recieve Seattle Times endorsement
I don't have a link yet, but I know it to be true. A very sad day indeed....
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:48 AM
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1. Times endorses McGavick (Oh, how I hate this paper)
It's about the estate tax...

In Sen. Maria Cantwell and challenger Mike McGavick, Washington has two fully qualified choices for the Senate. The better choice is the Republican, McGavick.

Some see this election as a referendum on George W. Bush. If we did, we would be for a solid Democratic ticket. But like most Washington voters, we take our candidates one at a time. Mike McGavick is an unusual businessman-politician. He managed the multibillion-dollar turnaround of Safeco Corporation, sacrificing some jobs but saving many others. He showed a sense of social purpose in his stress on racial inclusion at Safeco. He knows politics, having worked for Sen. Slade Gorton. He has run a clean campaign.

Critics will note that McGavick supports the elimination of the federal estate tax, a cause for which The Seattle Times has campaigned many years. That is part of why we endorse him, but not most of it. We endorsed Cantwell six years ago, knowing her position on the estate tax, and could endorse her again.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorialsopinion/2003316212_mikeedit22.html
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:56 AM
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2. The Seattle Times has become the conservative, suburban Seattle paper
And the P-I, which used to be the "Republican" Hearst paper, is more or less liberal. They are in a Joint Operating Agreement which the Times is trying to get out of because without it the
P-I would die, leaving Seattle a one paper town.
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TruthDetector Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:05 PM
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18. one paper town?
Don't worry, Seattle won't be a one paper town if the PI goes under. The Seattle Weekly and Stranger have the PI's end of the spectrum fully covered.

I have to laugh at those calling the Times a "conservative" paper. The conservatives don't agree, they call it a liberal paper just slightly less liberal than the way left PI.

In the 48th District, considered Republican territory, they endorsed every Democrat on the ballot. One thing I have noticed is that those candidates that are running local races seem to be favored by them over those that are running races based on anti-bush issues.

I have a hard time voting for someone that isn't qualified for the job, over someone that is, because of how I personally feel about whoever is President. A candidate should campaign on their own merits, and the issues important to the people they represent, rather than being a sock puppet for a national movement.
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janetle Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:27 AM
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3. I get three newspapers
The PI, the Times and the Everett Herald. The little old Everett Herald endorsed Cantwell and yet the Seattle Times did not??!! What is up with that?
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:37 PM
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4. Fuck the Seattle Times. I heard they endorsed the 3rd Reichert, too.
Conservative paper. Big surprise
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:00 PM
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5. They suck.
I'm trying to draft a letter to the editor in my head but I have to edit out the obscenities first. x(
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:14 PM
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6. Boy, those Blethens sure know which side their bread is buttered on.
An editorial board that cares not so much for the common good but for their own.:eyes:
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 03:45 PM
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7. Intresting as it is, the (V) Sunday paper Magavic
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 03:56 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
And so, there stands MaGavic and Cantwell just befor the face off, the big debate,both standing assembled in the lobby of the studio.Indeed the media.

Magic Mike MaGavic the Axman with his hands on his waste towering over the reporters camara ,Magic Mike displaying the V. Ah ha! his days as a lobbist Clinton-the sign of his ax-worthy experience.In reference to the Clinton presidential portrait, the reflection of Nixons ever discraceful exit from office.

And so the times editor too ,if he or it had known than what (it) the (Times) will come to to know - in the not to far in the distant future, It and or the editor of the Times would too have printed fourth the true to life educated picture of truth be known.

Indeed- the Nixon White house cover up of the war room plan.
The plan to start the war in the Middle East.

Indeed MaGavic you axman from hell, run, run just as fast as you can from Bush policys and run,- run even faster from the republican GOP you $$$###$^^&&**(*(&*^%$! I think that word starts with a B.!



And the Times and it,s editor were too young to know anytrhing about that. At the same time like Magic Mike MaGavic It or the times,just might be on to something.

This time the v for victory belongs to the people Mr. MaGavic ,of which you are not one. Same goes to the editor of the Times .

The truth be known, they will ALL get Caught.

You can run from the truth, you can cover it up if you dare, you may even put it to sleep if you must,you can lie, you can just not print it,

But it always comes back around. And further, you can run, but you cannot hide.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:37 PM
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13. Hello desk jet
I have tried and tried to understand and read your posts from many different angles, but I never know what the hell you are talking about! :)
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:55 PM
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17. A Halloween tale of truth
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 01:36 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
It was just a typical overcast night in Seattle. There were no stars in the skys, just plan overcast. Although it may have seemed somewhat darker than usual for some reason and for certain not out of the clear blue.

A week night you know, less movement from those who are out and about downtown ,more or less fewer and further between.Down by Yesler about a block from the water front on the sub street where the ol,e Post building was and is. The old building still retains it original bricks and it,s a wonder what those bricks could say if those bricks could talk.

An old guy in worn cloths was on the coroner selling newspapers,nothing unusual about it, or the location for that matter,the overcast on the other hand was something different.

It was just about 12:20 A.m. ,same ol,e week night crowd sitting around in the old pub and eatery - you know the place-just the place!
(Wa-nna buy a newspaper sir? Real Change-just a buck."oh, well for my dollar I can sure use some real change right about now" I,ll take one of those" (Thanks sir, and enjoy good reading,it,s for real.)"Indeed it is, I said,without a doubt.

From over across the street out came a yell, hay, you there, I,ll take two of those, we can sure use some of that . A city work crew was doing some after midnight road repair of emergency stature.Or is that popular demand.

The city worker crossed over to the newspaper mans coroner on a parallel about three car lengths from the nearest parked SUV black.
The horn suddenly started honking on high, HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK and so on. Almost as if it were out of the clear blue-but it was some kind of dark -not even close to clear blue.

Somebody really should come out here and shut that thing off ,said the city worker ,befor I do!
Why not just call a city tow truck and have it toed off for it having become a public nuisance ,I said.
I had something more intresting than that in mind said the city employee.
I,ll just go into the place around the coroner and ask if somebody owns a black SUV parked by the old post building ,it,s the least I can do,said the news salesman.

If he,s there,tell um to move it befor I do said the city employee. Thats right I said and I,ll call the cops on that perpertrator horn.That,s failure to obey ordinances,and you tell um further it,s going to cost him.

The paper guy from the Real Change went to the eatery pub and politely asked the garsoun greeter at the door if anybody owned a black SUV parked over on the next block across from the old Post building. Oh yes said the greeter- hostess -tipster of the establishment.When he works late ,he come,s in late for a late dinner, I,ll leave him know.!

The hostess did just that. When she did that, he- a five foot 7and one half gentelman in a business suit jumped up on the right of way and said oh, shit -it,s never done that befor.

So he ran to the door and once there was greeted by the newspaper peddler with a kind heart. the paper peddler said, is that your SUV? The pub patron answered I think so .

And so they both ran tword the SUV.
In the mean time the city worker and myself decided to investagate the situation for our own selves,and don,t you know on the dash board of that SUV was a you tie it yourself bow tie strapped across the dash!
Odd as it seemed -there was something sinister about that thing-or at least it was a reflection of something sinister-even though it was behind glass.

The newspaper guy and the owner of that thing -or bearer in demand ,came running up to the vehicle, I,ll get it stopped said the man in a suit, just hold on there ,let me get my keys. He reached into his pocket for his key, but it seemed to him the keys were not there, he just kept fumbling aroud his pockets ,Oh, no he said-I couldn,t have locked them in the car! Thats impossible,I couldn,t be locked out.

I can break out you window said the city worker if you want me to. Somebody got a crow bar or a coat hanger said the owner of the SUV.? I used to break into my old VW bus when I was in college!

Since you put it that way I said, why don,t you focus on keys, and think keys, than ask of yourself ,where did I put those keys-than wait a moment and allow yourself to answer yourself.
Right on said the gentelman in the suit, here it goes, . And so he fallowed threw with my suggestion, and don,t you know those keys were right in his key pocket where he always puts those keys for keeps.

Totally far out said the gentelman, I felt and felt there, and those keys just must have become invisible to the touch.

Indeed, but let me just ask you, where do you go for garments, that tie,? Oh, that tie, said the gentelman, my secretary put that thing on my dash,it was a joke I think, I thought it would be more of a joke to have her clean and vaccume my car when she comes back for that tie.

By the way,is that really the old post building? Indeed it is I said,and thats just how it looked in the day., see that old boom hanging out the side? Ya, said the gentelman,. Thats right where the press results were lowered onto the old wagons!,As the saying goes,-hot off the ol,e press.

Man said the gentelman,if those bricks could talk.
Indeed I said, mabe they do.Perhaps you should do something about that tie yourself. You know said the gentelman, perhaps you are right,and I will right now, .So ,he threw that thing over in the direction of the dumpster.

So ,thanks for the help guys, truthfully, sincere thankyou!Oh and ah, newspaper guy, I would like to give you something for your troubles,
The newspaper guy seemed to turn white as a ghost,

I said, by the way friend, did you catch the ariticle in the Real Change about Real Change today?

The gentelman answered, ya, know today has been a little too hectic, I didn,t catch it this time.

How about one of those papers , and one more for the office,I know of at least one more in the office that will just love to read it!





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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:01 AM
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20. take it as a whole and let it flow as you read it.
Being too literal makes it confusing, but getting the general feeling works.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 08:28 PM
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8. Times also endorsed Reichert.
No more Times for me, ever.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:48 PM
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9. The PI endorsed Cantwell and Burner.
I read the McGavick endorsement, and it didn't seem to be a ringing endorsement. I thought it was rather wishy-washy. Anyone else get that impression?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:44 AM
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10. Times was playing both sides, CYA
Time to subscribe to the PI folks!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:47 PM
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15. You're probably right.
We only get the paper on Sunday, and as you know, it's mostly the Times, though the PI has half of the editorial section.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:14 AM
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11. Corporate whores. What could ANYONE like about Mike??
He's a smarmy drunk, and a liar to boot. Considering Seattle Times had the story about his lying about his DUI... blows me away that they'd support him. However... I worked for a newspaper in California, and frequently the Editorial Board was overruled by the suits upstairs when they tried to endorse a democrat. I don't know Seattle Times' structure, but I know for a fact that many newspapers now are TOLD who to endorse. It's no longer decided over sandwiches in the conference room filled with real newspaper folks.
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TruthDetector Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:55 PM
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19. re: Corporate whores. What could ANYONE like about Mike??
Calling McGavick a drunk and a liar is like calling Cantwell a hooker.

If you are looking for a candidate that is a perfect angel then you rule out both of these.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 02:52 PM
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21. what?
That makes no sense. McGavick has proven himself a liar (just look at who is funding him). He is going to be another Bush-bot for the neo-con agenda. What is your purpose in equating Cantwell with a hooker?

Regarding the times and liberl: there is a confusion in America regarding conservative versus Republican. Those who support Reichert and McGavick and Bush are republican--certainly nothing about their agenda is conservative. They are radical right-wing...and anyone who endorses them cannot be labeled liberal.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:34 PM
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12. We live in Bizzarro world
nowadays. It makes no sense especially when you listen to Mike's ads. He is listing all the problems that exist and how he can work with others to fix them.
That's when I always yell at the TV telling Mike, "you are already on the team that created the problems. How can you possible think anything will change with you there?" :)
Plus he brags about what he did for Safeco and edxpects middle class working people to NOT think a 20+ million golden parachute isn't a bit, shall we say, GREEDY? :mad:
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:45 PM
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14. Blethen only cares about Blethen
ignore them. cancel your subscription.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:43 AM
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16. Seattle times guy knocked on my door the other day...
and I told him, I did NOT want to read RW paper even it's free for 8 weeks!
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