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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 02:10 PM
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The tunnel is dead?
Edited on Sun Jan-14-07 02:12 PM by pscot
In his column in the Sunday Times, Danny Westneat quotes house speaker Frank Chopp. http:www//seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2003524542_danny14m.htmwww

The theory has been that city voters will choose between a tunnel or a new elevated structure.

Chopp doesn't see the point of holding that vote.

"The tunnel is dead," he says, categorically. "A lot of people are questioning whether a vote like that would mean anything at all. It's only a real vote if you vote on real taxes, to pay for a real project. Anything else is a distraction.

"It is past time we started talking about what we can actually accomplish."

Chopp, who Westneat described as the 4th most powerful individual in the state, after Gregoire, Murray and Cantwell, controls the agenda in Olympia.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 12:57 PM
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1. the rebuild happens over my dead body
it goes against the professional judgement of every design professional on the planet.

not that we have one shred of power...


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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:56 PM
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2. If officialdom can continue this dance
for another 6 or 8 years, peak oil will have arrived, gas will be selling for $9.00 per gallon and Seattle will be building the monorail, as they should have done to begin with.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:23 PM
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3. another monorail enthusiast?
don't you know that we're completely unrealistic? think of the impact on lovely 2nd avenue! :eyes:

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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 03:48 PM
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5. There's us "unrealists"
and there's the Crackpot Realists, who think we live in the best of all possible worlds. Just keep on doing what we've always done and everything will be just great. I have my doubts about that. How will second avenue look with grass growing up through the pavement?
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 01:09 PM
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4. The ciy council could come up with a compromise
Or a decision of some sort, instead of having the faux 2-option vote. But they don't have long
to it.

I want more options. I don't want a rebuild OR a tunnel.

b_b
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 04:01 PM
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6. It's like Chopp said in that article.
A vote is meaningless unless it addresses design and cost. We could hold a referendum right here on DU to decide whether I should spend the next two weeks at Hannalei beach, but unless there's some funding attached I'm going to be toughing it out right here in Washington for the rest of the winter. Life is damned cruel.
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