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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:43 PM
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Are Sen Murray and Sen Cantwell still supporting Sen Clinton??? nm
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 12:45 PM by rhett o rick
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:51 PM
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1. I wish they would reconsider
Our governor is supporting Obama and our state overwhelming supports him. It seems like Cantwell said something a while ago that sounded like she was reconsidering her support for Clinton. I don't see Murray changing her support because of her friendship in the Senate with her.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:52 PM
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2. Cantwell seems to be reconsidering
No word from Murray.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:57 PM
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3. I hope so. she is the right candidate for the job.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:15 PM
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4. What do you think it,s really about?
Kerry made the rounds here in western Washington early on ,ofcourse on behalf of Obama. Do you even recall where the money came from to do the hand recount? The money that was fronted,ofcourse after the recount the state picked up the tab. Calling in favors is what that trip Kerry made was all about.

The selective service draft on the tables brings young voters to the polls.
And politicans are keenly careful about potential upset voter turn outs.

But the other thing politicans do is reserve the right to change their minds in line with circumstances and events as happenings in current events unfold. In construction contracting ,thats known as the unforseen.Things that you will run into or problems that exist that you cannot estimate across because the problem is not apparent or forseeable.

Circumstances and events ,things that happen along the way can make or break a politicans career.
Or make or break the politican.

If than you do not account for what can happen as you add up those numbers ,than you cannot possibly be prepared for what will happen , you know the law right? Murphy,s law.
If things go right than it should all pan out. If, takes all unaccountable factors into consideration and that,s Murphy,s law.

Yes politicans do indeed reverse theirselves.
Which means it ain,t over until it,s over.

Isn,t that truthfully where Obama,s supporters fear is,the fear that something might happen along the way to rule him out!
So what do they do, they keep throwing money at it! Now just where did they learn that! (?)
If he,s going to win the nomination ,and that,s if, doesn,t it stand to reason he should stand the test of time? I mean why should Hillery just drop out ? Obama calls that being preped?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:07 PM
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5. I believe that this primary race is a contest between the Democratic party
power elitists and the grass-roots activists. The DLC and the power elitists have the backing of the same corporate money as the republicans. It is time for the Democratic party power elitists to give some respect to those that are working so hard for a victory in November.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:57 PM
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6. Interesting you mention elitist
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 12:02 AM by Wash. state Desk Jet
The London times did a article in length on that subject .The article was all about Obama and why the election may have been thrown away.It discussed in length what Obama said behind the seans and how it was captured on tape.In our papers I have seen scattered versions of it but not the sum of it in any one article-such as what was printed in Europe.
But in England a child abduction captured the national atention for just about a year now ,the McCann kidnapping case. Those newspapers cashed in and for six months plus.Some of those papers are being sued by the McCann family.And the people are outraged.And those newspapers have made public apologys to the people and to the McCann family and vacation party,

Some people may be shocked about the most recent debate yet quick to say there is a right wing connection. It doesn,t seem to matter to them that Obama sells papers. Or some might say -what ever it takes to win.

I say let it all dry up.
The time for truth has come
And stop the bull shit.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:31 AM
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8. The major news papers in this country could care less about "selling papers". In fact we get a
major Seattle paper for free after I told them I didn't want their republican rag anymore. The newspapers get most of their money from advertisements. And the big corporations pay big dollars, that is as long as the paper is favorable to big business. Exxon gives the major tv networks millions of dollars via buying ads. Now why does Exxon need to advertise? As an excuse to funnel money into their propaganda machines.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:06 AM
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7. Norm Dicks considers the possibility of switching also
http://www.horsesass.org/?p=4711

Speaking before a crowd of about a hundred Democrats at a fundraiser yesterday, U.S. Rep. Norm Dicks (WA-06) reportedly said that if Hillary Clinton wins “big” in today’s Pennsylvania primary, he believes the nominating contest will go all the way to the convention, but… if she does not win big — and given the current polling he has no expectation that she will — there would be no way the math could work for her, and he’d flip his endorsement to Barack Obama in order to help end the contest sooner rather than later.

Dicks did not provide details, but he left the impression with attendees that he has discussed this scenario with several of his fellow Congressional superdelegates, and that he is alone in neither his analysis nor his intentions.

So think of Dicks as the canary in the coal mine of the Clinton campaign; if he flips, other superdelegates will likely flip with him. And that would signal the end of Clinton’s presidential ambitions.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 10:33 AM
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9. Thank you. He is my rep and if he switches I will quietly believe that my 100 emails
might have helped.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:47 AM
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10. At the end of the day
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:53 AM by Wash. state Desk Jet
We will know something. It,s not what you want to believe that counts .It,s what you know that matters. It is indeed always better to know than it is to think that you know.
Drove my chevy to the levy but the levy was dry.
Up town got it,s husselers
Bowery got it,s bums.

And the answers are blowing in the wind.



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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 01:10 PM
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11. Hey, I tried blowing in the wind.........didn't seem to be the answer. nm
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:53 PM
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12. Anyone got the lastest?? nm
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:43 AM
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13. Weight watchers says
Edited on Tue May-06-08 01:05 AM by Wash. state Desk Jet
you lose one and than you gain one, you lose another than gain nothing, you may be ahead. If only air was filling~! None the less the answers are blowing in the wind. It is much more easy to put it on than it is to take it off, but that is not aways the case! If on the other hand you are confused, than think positive ,results may appear be for you know it! And at the same time never become entirely too over confident. But if you do,take a break and think it threw. Than count to ten and do it again!

Ok so reread line one.
But if you do than think it threw. Than count to ten and do it again.
The answers are blowing in the wind.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:20 PM
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14. I tried blowing in the wind and didn't get no answers. nm
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:05 PM
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15. Before you quit
count to ten and do it again ,the winds whisper ever so lightly ,deep concentration is a must. If you become tuned into to the sounds of silence you may tap in to the whispers of the winds ,if you are worthy. If not I would guess one would become tired of too much of nothing.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:09 PM
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24. So it came to one super
Edited on Sat May-10-08 12:31 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
You gain you lose. You may be ahead! Edwards says the math is hard to beat. What he didn't mention is the odds.The odds are all about a completely different set of mathematical equations.There is a wind factor which can get you or your opponent. One or the other or both. Odds say watch the wind as the winds blow. The math in the odds shows different outcomes. The convention is still a long road with many turns,and turns in events.
The old saying as it is, the bigger they are the harder they fall. Odds add up but odds also fall without even so much as a moments notice. And before the fall it always looks like a sure win,but is it? What does you instinct tell you about smooth sailing? Is it a red sky in the morning or a red sky at night? But the Sky's don't always give warning.

Blowing in the wind.

It's rather associated to the big question asked to the mega successful person,that question is,if you lost it all tomorrow ,could you come back from scratch. Could you do it again. Some say yes ,other's have no answer to the question. However the truth is ,it can happen.
It does not matter what you want to believe,it can happen.Because anything can happen. Odds stack up and keep stacking until some outside force is applied.There is no spinning the outside forces.Things spring up and odds change.

And the answers to the questions of why or what will always be blowing in the winds.

Where there is a winner there is also a loser. Defying seemingly unbeatable odds is part of the game.And in some cases ,is what makes the game.Masters of the game know that.It ain't over until it's over.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:33 AM
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16. After last night
Edited on Wed May-07-08 10:33 AM by Upton
it's about time Murray and Cantwell got on board and supported our nominee...Barack Obama
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:09 PM
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17. Send them another email. I have sent many. nm
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:30 PM
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18. There is a time to speak and a time to keep the hush up.
Edited on Wed May-07-08 11:31 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
And with the answer still blowing in the wind anyone who is smart will keep the hush up! Things tend to spring up suddenly !
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:51 PM
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19. Naw, with the answer still blowing around, I want to put in my 2 cents worth.
butterfly effect and all.

:hi:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:12 AM
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20. I am not very good at keeping "the hush up". In fact, i think that the
Democrats in Congress have done way tooooo much of keeping "the hush up". Now is the time to speak out and make it clear that Congress will not recognize and will not fund an invasion or attack on Iran. Don't wait until we get our foot deep in it, like Iraq. Strike now.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:16 PM
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21. Nobody wants to get into it with Iran
Edited on Thu May-08-08 11:21 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
But only a fool would not realize that Iran will just love to push it past the limit.You can not possibly understand their aggression unless you have experienced it.That,s why they are watched closely. This is not about Bush or those Bushy,s. Their ways of a demonstration of force is right up there with insanity. The kind there is no cure for. More like a psychopathic thing of a sort in a wide spread way. And from what I read in European papers and tellabroadcasting ,Iran's people are not at all pleased with its' government.
For instance,all the gas they got and their people pay threw the nose and have it rationed. Not to mention wide spread fear. In part that is why there are so many Muslims in Europe.Almost unreal in numbers.

Of the many complications of a war on terrorism ,it is psychological warfare that is no doubt the most confusing aspect of it to the average person-citizen. And the hush there on the part of the government and elected officials is just what is the most disturbing aspect of it, to say the least.
Global terrorism is not about Iraq.

Was it not the Iranian hostage crisis that did the most damage to the Carter Administration? Did you ever wonder why they did that?

of course this being election year nobody wants to beat around the bush around a thing called psychological warfare -global terrorism. You won't hear about that until after the elections.And that's only because they have run out of ways to avoid that very aspect in it.Or telling people anything about it. Or isn't that because of Bush's Iraq war?
More recently the British hostages.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:32 PM
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22. The Neocons want to get into it with Iran big time. Most Iranians like Americans and our
way of life. A radical fringe elements has control of the country much like here. If we attack Iran, the Iranian people will hate us and polarize with their radical leaders. We would be playing into the radical leaders hands, both here and there. If Bush/Cheney want to attack Iran, I hope Congress calls in the military and arrests them. Can you spell coup de tat?
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:14 AM
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23. neocon ,that,s a, big word.
Than you must think the intire congress is in on that, except of course the newbe's that were not there to vote on it, is that about right? And 9/11 conspericy theorys ,you got some of those. England is in kahoots with us on the oil deals,is that about it? The commuter train bombings over there in europe and the recent bombings in Scottland airport and England last year, all that means nothing,or you think it;s because we are trying to take over their oil or run their countries ,is that about it. Just leave them be and things will just be fine, is that rightly so? Maybe you think Obama has the ways,is that it? He'll bring um all to the tables ,is that right? Maybe get the prize that came at a cost?

I'am just saying there is indeed far more to it and the complications are greater.

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Patriot Abroad Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:26 AM
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25. if you want to mock conspiracy theorists . . .
It's best to sort out your punctuation, so you don't look like you're crazy yourself.

Or maybe you're just being ironic?

Either way, my brain won't process what you tried to type . . .
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:18 PM
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26. Just read along and don't try to organize it grammarically.
A translation device wouldn't work for WAdj's posts, but just read and let them flow and you get the idea.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:34 PM
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27. What I had to filter threw
in my brain to type that ,most likely isn't kept in most brains.Carter-prize-nobel-Sadat check spelling. Think global act local-Peter-Paul and Mary!
And there is some mathematical thinking as well,but who's counting!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 04:17 PM
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28. Of course there is a lot more to it, but the neocons that run the White House
want to start a war with Iran. Congress seems powerless to stop it. What ever the "far more to it" shit you are referring to does not preclude another preemptive war. No more wars.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:09 PM
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29. Update -- they are now endorsing Obama
http://www.katu.com/news/election/19630359.html

<<Several Washington state lawmakers, including Democratic Sens. Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, have switched their endorsements from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama for president now that Clinton has formally suspended her campaign.

"Our state and our nation deserve a leader with the vision to challenge history and the leadership to turn our country around," said Murray. "That's why I'm so proud to endorse Senator Barack Obama for president of the United States."

Added Cantwell: "I know Barack Obama will launch a tireless campaign across America emphasizing Democratic priorities to get our economy back on track, change the course in Iraq, and providing quality, affordable health care for all.">>
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