Washington Super delegate petition

[eridani]

Washington Super delegate petition . 100,000 signatures needed. Please read and sign this petition calling on King County Executive Ron Sims; Rep. Jay Inslee (WA 1st) and Norm Dicks ( WA 6th) to follow the lead of their Washington constituents and endorse Senator Obama for the Democratic Presidential nominee

Click or Copy: http://www.petitiononline.com/obamayes/petition.html

[SeattleGirl]

1. Signed

I hope it gets the numbers.

[eridani]

2. Spread it to your online connections n/t

[WA98296]

3. If they need any encouragement after Clinton's remarks on Friday, they ought to be replaced

[LeFleur1]

4. What Remarks Were Those?

Do you mean when she stated the facts that her husband was campaigning in June and RFK was shot in June while campaigning?
Our country is in serious trouble if people will stoop to this dunce talk and interpretation to get Hillary to stop before the race is over. And to denigrate her.
She has done more for liberal causes than Obama has even begun to do.
It's fine to disagree with her on issues but this asinine tearing down for some imaginary reason is scary. Obama's supporters sometimes appear to be in the twilight zone, they are so far out of it. And the media? We'll see what they do if Obama is the nominee. I'd almost be willing to bet they won't be so supportive then. I think they are setting him up.

I'm not signing a any petition would demand Wa. delegates to back Obama. Do we even know who the voters of this state do back? Were the primary votes ever counted? Or don't the votes of the people matter any more. Is it only the Parties that matter?

[eridani]

5. In the primaries--yes. Only parties matter

Caucus states always have stronger parties than primary states. I think the opinions of doorbellers, phonebankers, and overall active participation in politics are worth more than those of passive soundbite recipients. All we have to do to fix the accessibility problem is to have universal absentee caucusing for any reason like they do in Maine.

Implying "I'm staying in because my opponent might get assassinated" is utterly vile.

[rhett o rick]

9. The super-duper-delegate system supports the power structure and not the will

of the people. Dump the un-Democratic super-duper-delegate system.

[eridani]

6. WA State Dem Party has an online site tor contacting DNC members

http://www.wa-democrats.org/index.php?page=display&id=277

Washington State has 17 superdelegates, and the Washington State Democratic Central Committee (WSDCC) has six superdelegates. Superdelegates are unpledged Party leaders who will have a vote for the Democratic nominee for president. The six WSDCC superdelegates are Chair Dwight Pelz, Vice Chair Eileen Macoll, and DNC members Ed Cote, Sharon Mast, David McDonald, and Pat Notter.

Here's who Washington's 17 superdelegates have endorsed:

Barack Obama: Gov. Chris Gregoire, Rep. Adam Smith, Rep. Brian Baird, Rep. Rick Larsen, Rep. Jim McDermott, State Party Chair Dwight Pelz, DNC member Pat Notter

Hillary Clinton: Sen. Patty Murray, Sen. Maria Cantwell, Rep. Norm Dicks, Rep. Jay Inslee, King County Executive Ron Sims

Undeclared: State Party Vice Chair Eileen Macoll, DNC member Ed Cote, DNC member Sharon Mast, DNC member David McDonald, Former House Speaker Tom Foley

Use the following form to send a message to the undeclared WSDCC superdelegates about which nominee you think they should support. You can choose to lobby individual superdelegates or choose to lobby all of them.

Send a message to:

Chair Dwight Pelz
Vice Chair Eileen Macoll
DNC Member Ed Cote
DNC Member Sharon Mast
DNC Member David McDonald
DNC Member Pat Notter
All of the WSDCC superdelegates

[Upton]

7. Macoll has rather foolishly endorsed Hillary

she cited Murray along with Clinton in her endorsement. I don't know about Patty Murray anymore, at least Cantwell has said she will support the pledged delegate winner. The next time Patty Murray comes up for reelection, I'm going to think twice about voting for her again.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/superdelegate-endorsements-for-thursday_29.html

[eridani]

8. My reply to Macoll

The war "makes you sick" and you endorsed Clinton?!?! Can I have some of what you are smoking? She voted FOR IWR, the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, and stated that she had no problem with "obliterating" Iran.

More to the point, most of her foreign policy advisors were in favor or the war, and most of Obama's were against it. No president is ever fully on top of everything, and of necessity relies a great deal on advisors.

And if you hadn't noticed, there is no mathematical way that Clinton can possibly win at this point, so you are effectively backing McCain by prolonging party division.

[rhett o rick]

10. We also need one for Sen Murray and Cantwell. nm

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

11. There is a lot of something spreading

And I don't think it's your petition.Damn simple sam. I do agree the courtship of the media will end for Mr. Obama and his twisted camp. And he and they have proven to be no match for the real fire fights.However I think McCain has received a bit of a extended nicety tour from the media ,it too may end. Although it ain't over is it?

I think the next two weeks shall be interesting media wise!
Oh yes I do think so.
And not liking Obama none too much makes it even more interesting.
But hay, that's why for the Gore draft ,isn't it!
Again it ain't over yet and Obama isn't there as of yet,is he!

[eridani]

12. Clinton has done nothing but agree with Repubs for the last two months

Obama has occasionally broken the Repuke framing and refused to accept there assumptions.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

13. How much is known about Obama?

I mean what do you know about him other than his placing himself at the top of a progressive movement? Rather crowned you might say.But what do you know about him? What do you really know? That's just where the mean old media is going to target the candidate. Since we really don't know and no information is obtainable ,by Obama's camp or otherwise,the scantness of Obama's back round you might call that.

So isn't t up to the media to do it's job and fill the world in on Obama's true to life back round?

You know the world press has been throwing around the comment about R.F.K. Clinton made and has turned it over toward Clinton waiting for the worst possible thing to happen for her win. That's nothing more than character assassination on the part of the media.

But look, politicians that are dirty and corrupt have been dropping like flies the last four years,F-B-I stings behind much of it.
Remember the Larry Craig discussion? Tom Foley? Brian Doyle? James West? Vitter Shitter? The New York governor? A.T.G. Gonzales? The list is indeed very,very long and will keep getting longer.

I got two words for you -HARRY KERRY. Or is that harry carry?

The assassination fear thing is just a smoke screen.

In politics today ,it's all about Harry Kerry.
That's the key you see, harry kerry.

Yes the media waits for the big blitz in the sky.
All it would take is a something of a happening that equals the magnitude of Tom Foley. Wasn't that timing just ducky perfect? The narrow majority lead the democratic party obtained may have happened because of scandal right?
But than there is Dangerous Dick Chaney's vote.

Scandal=Harry Kerry.

Political Harry Kerry, politics of the here and now.
Just don't put yourself there before you get there,that's all.

In the world of politics in the here and now ,it is all about the politician assassinating their own character ,or political Harry Kerry.

You should take apart one of Kerry's poorly pulled off political jokes and look at it carefully,Annalise it,ask yourself ,what does it all mean and where it all leads to.

Enjoy the day, I'm a realist.

Harry Kerry,scandal,Gore draft behind everything.

[eridani]

15. I know that he planned a campaign that would last longer than Feb 5th

I know that he puts data back into the DNC voterfile for local candidates to use instead of using his own private one. I know that he prefers hiring organizers to hiring shitstains like Mark Penn. I know that he has specifically stated that nothing whatsoever will happen in his presidency unless his supporters stay organized and make it happen.

I know that whatever is in his background is utterly irrelevant. If the Repukes can't find anything on you, they'll just make it up out of whole cloth.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

17. If you want to believe something

enough you can just make yourself believe it.You went straight to the republican strong arm.

What,s back there shapes what he is and who and what he is all about.
It is relevant ,all of it is. And more over the truth is.If you are disgusted with political corruption than you also must hate the lies. The deceit. The arrogance. And how it is they laugh about the things they get away with,get over on it,on the people.

I am sure Foley did. I am sure Gonzales did. Vitter too. I am sure they all do. Getting it over on the people-the government.
How it is they must enjoy their own laughter.
And how it is they can get you who have had it put over on you to laugh right along with them and at yourselves at the same time.
What a trick that must be to pull off.
Isn't that what you call magic? or even genius?

Why not be fooled right? What the hell ,why not .
It just has to be better than the same Ole ,same old.

Just so long as there is a D after the name. The thing of it is, there just has to be more to it than that. I mean holy athletics,let me call my lawyer!

Anybody study drama ever! See a broadway show,visit the theater! Oh, ah, class act!

It's all about show, none of it's really real is it? Unless of course it imitates life! OK so, it's not about little flag pins and it's not about religion,but what is is about is connections to corruption,isn't it?

The question is, who is he.
What is he about.

And that should not even be a question ,not at this point in time. Not in the here and now. Yet it still remains.

Cloaked in Camelot which is a myth.
But the Cuban missal crisis was no myth.
And I still think Micky Mantel and Willy Mays and people like that was Camelot,if you must know the truth. Camelot, the country had come out of the great depression. WW11 was won. Making up for what never was,good times to heal over too much of nothing, Camelot.

The effects of the great depression is what they wanted to protect the children from. The side effects. Like post trumatic stress syndrome passed down threw the generations. Or some such thing.

Look magizine,Life ,Time. The clothes people wore.

[eridani]

18. He is somebody who wants everybody to get more involved in politics

He has made this clear by how he organized his campaign. Changing the direction of this country is up to US.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

19. Yes and

There has to be something there of substance in order to make a wise choice.
We must stop excepting politicians of straw!

He is right in that the country must be energized.
We must apply positive measures where the lackadaisical ways about it have taken hold of this nation.

The spirit of the nation must be reinvigorated.

The thing of it is, we haven't seen that since world war two.

What ideas does Mr. Obama have along those lines, or is w2 too far back in time?

Surely there must be a point of reference right?

[eridani]

20. How about really massive voter registration--

--followed by constantly reminding people that nothing will change unless they stay involved?

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

21. I agree with that!

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[rhett o rick]

14. I am sorry you view the camp of Obama as twisted.

Personally I think this is all an exercise in futility. But I'm in. Short of a real all out rev-olut-ion this offers some hope.

Almost all of Washington, the district of corruption, is owned and controlled by the corporatist lobbyists. I feel the Obama revolution hopes to end that. It won't be easy if even possible. No one knows if Obama will be able to fix the corruption that is so deeply set. IMO the "Obama camp" wants to try. They, we, have come out of the woodwork to fight this corporatist lobbyist corruption. Most of us do not believe the Clintons are committed to this fight. They may be a hell of a lot better than anything the republicans can come up with, but IMO they would not end the corporatist lobbyist corruption.

The key now is whether the Clinton camp will support Obama or McCain. You tell me.

[uppityperson]

16. Sims just switched

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004455897_websims03.html