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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:04 PM
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Sheriff fires deputy seen in jail beating video (kicks and hits 15 year old girl)
Source: KOMO News

SEATTLE -- A King County Sheriff's deputy who was seen on video beating a teenage girl in a holding cell has been fired, officials said Monday.
Sheriff spokesman John Urquhart said Paul Schene was fired for a number of policy violations, including the incident captured on video.

Urquhart said Schene pleaded his case before Sheriff Sue Rahr on September 9, but she found the violations to be supported and agreed with the recommendation that Schene be fired. The department violations included making false statements, conduct that is criminal in nature, excessive or unnecessary force and discrimination in civility or bigotry, among others, Urquhart said.

The security video shows Schene shoving and kicking a 15-year-old girl in a holding cell after her arrest.

Schene was charged with fourth-degree assault in connection with the Nov. 29 incident in a holding cell at SeaTac City Hall. Schene pleaded not guilty to the charge. Trouble allegedly began after Schene escorted one of the teens into a holding cell. While trying to take her shoes off, the girl kicked off her left shoe, which struck the deputy in the shin, the document said.



Read more: http://www.komonews.com/news/local/62375117.html



You can see the video of the incident in the original story on the KOMO link.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:14 PM
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1. Notice how these guys are tinder? It seems that they are wound really tight. I would like
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 02:15 PM by peacetalksforall
to know what their training includes and what directions and messages they are getting from their superiors. It seems as though they have been given permission to explode.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:22 PM
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7. what their training includes is public record
and if you are actually interested, you can contact that agency (or any agency) and request various training documents under the color of FOIA.

feel free to do so.

also, this agency, like many agencies, runs a citizen academy (i had a friend who went to it) where non-cops can actually experience some of the police training.

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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:20 PM
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2. Did the defense lawyer maintain a straight face
as his client pleaded "not guilty"? What the hell?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:35 PM
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3. Back to the unemployment line, meathead
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Speciesamused Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:42 PM
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4. I would say more like
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 02:44 PM by Speciesamused
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:42 PM
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5. Cops are NOT our friends....
...contrary to the bullshit we were spoon fed in the First Grade.

JMHO
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:23 PM
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8. yes, they are
but they are human and imperfect, schene being a perfect example.

this is true in all professions. cops are no different
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:14 PM
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10. protect and serve the rich, other badges
and thats it.
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:55 PM
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16. Nope...
I can't remember where I read it but it goes something like this:

"Anyone who wants to be a cop is exactly the kind of person who should never be allowed to be a cop."

I'm a law-abiding citizen who plays by the rules and I'm tired of dealing with law-enforcement personnel who believe they are exempt from the laws they enforce.
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Celtic Merlin Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:06 PM
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19. I wish there were a way to "recommend" your comment as we have over on DKos.
But I'll settle for a "Damn straight!"

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:33 PM
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22. Almost every cop I've ever met has been an arrogant bully
in their person lives. I know of 1 exception out of almost twenty cops. I have no doubt about what kind of cops they are when they are on duty, and it amazes me that they are allowed to be cops.

I truly believe that many cops are the ones who should be behind bars. Power corrupts, etc. They think the badges and guns give them permission to be thugs, and unfortunately, most of the time they're right. :(


Hell, take a look at the people here who are known to be cops, and take a look at their posts. Most of the time they support the most authoritarian positions. It's not even well thought out authoritarianism. It's a knee-jerk expectation that authorities are right and everyone else either obeys or they are wrong.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:37 PM
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23. and almost every one i have met
has turned out to be a good guy or gal.

our experiences differ . imagine that.

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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:38 PM
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24. This is from the Sixties, but , unfortunately,
a lot of it still applies.

Meet the king of cowboys, he rides a pale pony
He fights the bad boys brings them to their knees
He patrols the highways from the air
He keeps the country safe from long hair
I am the masculine american man
I kill therefore I am.

I don't like the black man, for he doesn't know his place
Take the back of my hand or I'll spray you with my mace
I'm as brave as any man can be
I find my courage through chemistry
I am the masculine american man
I kill therefore I am.

I don't like the students now, they don't have no respect
They don't like to work now, I think I'll wring their necks
They call me pig, although I'm underpaid
I'll show those faggots that I'm not afraid
I am the masculine american man
I kill therefore I am.

Farewell to the gangsters we don't need them anymore
We've got the police force, they're the ones who break the law
He's got a gun and he's a hater
He shoots first, he shoots later
I am the masculine american man
I kill therefore I am.

"I Kill, Therefore I Am" by Phil Ochs
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:30 PM
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12. They are the enforcement arm of the Hierarchy Protection System
I wrote this earlier this summer, based on a number of years of analyzing the nature of the society in which we live.

The Guardian Institutions of Hierarchy

One aspect of human culture that seems irresistible to the ancient status-seeking part of our brain is the development of hierarchies. The encoding of personal status and power into social structures is evident in the tribes and troops of all the great apes, but human beings have gone much further. We built an entire globe-spanning civilization on the foundation of hierarchy.

One inevitable effect of social hierarchies (in fact the effect that made our global civilization possible) is the consolidation of power. As new power comes into a hierarchic social system it flows preferentially to the top. As the system develops, even the small amount of power available to those at the bottom of the social pyramid is removed and ends up concentrated at the top in a power elite. This becomes a positive feedback loop: the more power is consolidated at the top, the easier the consolidation becomes.

This consolidation of power is seen in all social hierarchies. As you would expect, our most hierarchic societies, from ancient Egypt to Stalinist Russia to the USA, exhibit it most profoundly.

You can think of this effect as a form of social reverse osmosis, in which power is pumped through a semi-permeable membrane up a gradient from social regions of low power concentration to regions of high concentration, with class boundaries forming the membrane between them.

Physical reverse osmosis requires both a semi-permeable membrane and a pump, so it's logical to look for similar mechanisms in this social metaphor. What drives social power from low to high concentrations? And what keeps the semi-permeable membrane of social class boundaries intact so that the whole system can function?

In our metaphor of reverse osmosis, these mechanisms are provided by what I call the Guardian Institutions. These are the corporate, economic, financial, political, legal, religious, educational and communications institutions that form the structural skeleton of our civilization.

Corporations and businesses cooperate with economic and financial institutions to set the value of work and control the money supply. In this role it doesn't make any difference whether an economy is capitalist, socialist or communist. The core beliefs it guards are always the same: ownership and growth. In our Western civilization these institutions are the pumps that move power (transfigured into wealth) away from the powerless and to the powerful.

Political institutions encode, enshrine and manage the application of social power. Politics is the institution that legitimizes all the others. Because of its unique ability to make laws and its access to legalized violence to defend them, politics is the primary self-defense mechanism of the power hierarchy of civilization. In this view it doesn't matter if the political system is democratic or authoritarian, capitalist or socialist, liberal or fascist, feudal, monarchic or dictatorial. As long as the political system can make laws and use institutionalized violence (i.e. police) to enforce them, any political system will fulfill this core function. From this point of view the differences between them are largely cosmetic. Even the differences between parties in a democratic system are a useful irrelevancy – useful to those in power by giving the powerless a calming illusion of control. Politics as a social system invariably works to the benefit of those at the tip of the power pyramid.

Legal institutions enforce the norms of the hierarchy in ways too numerous to count. These range from the protection of privilege (one law for the rich, one for the poor) to the preferential defense of property rights over human rights. Along with the police force it empowers, the legal system is the tip of the spear that keeps the power-holders safe from the powerless. In the terms of our metaphor, legal institutions maintain the integrity of the semi-permeable membrane of social class.

Religious institutions (as distinct from the religions they purport to enshrine) are primarily normative social structures. Many incorporate an overt message that we should be content with things as they are. There are often injunctions against questioning authority, as all authority is seen to devolve from the supernatural – as it has ever since the shamans of the early agricultural era. Like legal institutions, they guard the integrity of social classes, though in our civilization the role of religion has been handed over largely to the legal sphere with its more overt control mechanisms.

Educational institutions teach successive generations how the system works. It gives those at the tip of the pyramid the tools to integrate into it and manipulate it. At the same time it trains everyone involved to see the pyramid of hierarchy as the only possible way the world can work. Those who do not accede to the top of the system learn to be content that the perceived order is natural, inevitable, beneficial, and unquestionable. An interesting twist in modern education is that we are now taught that the rights of the powerful are acquired through merit rather than birth (though many PhDs have learned otherwise).

Communications media reinforce the message of the inevitability and beneficence of our social hierarchy by enlisting people in the power/growth/ownership paradigm. They do this through overt messages like advertising, covert messages embedded in the story lines of entertainment and of course the selective editing and presentation style of news programs. People who are programmed by this constant messaging come to regard any values that challenge the existing structure as incomprehensible, self-evidently absurd, dangerous or even insane.

From this perspective, the various organizations through which the power elite manifest in our civilization – the World Economic Forum, the Bilderberg Group, The Family, Skull and Bones and all the rest – are not, in and of themselves, the problem. They are merely the ways in which the tip of our civilization's power hierarchy has organized itself along lines of common interest. The underlying, unspoken goal of all of them is the efficient maintenance and enhancement of a structure that works to their advantage. If they were emasculated or dismantled, other such organizations would spring up to replace them.

So what can we (those of us who are egalitarian or simply powerless and have not swallowed the soma of our culture) do about this situation? It's a tough question, because as I said above, I don't think that directly attacking the organizations themselves will work over the long run. Getting rid of one of them would be like cutting out a skin lesion that is simply a visible metastasis of a systemic cancer. The body of our civilization is riddled with this particular cancer, and has been for at least the last few hundred years. Perhaps the only real solution lies in a civilizational death and rebirth, but that's a fairly ... ummm... unpopular notion, especially to those at the tip of the power hierarchy.

The police are an integral, necessary part of the hierarchic power system -- without them hierarchy could not exist. So long as we believe hierarchy is necessary we will believe the police are necessary. So long as we believe they are necessary, we will make excuses for them even in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are not what they tell us they are.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:21 PM
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6. a justified termination imo
what schene did was way out of line and it rose to the level of a firing offense. good job
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:12 PM
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9. God, I hate fucking cops.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:20 PM
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11. I don't like fucking them either.
That's why I stick to human beings.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:15 PM
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20. I knew a female cop that let me put my rod in her holster...
she was okay.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:46 PM
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14. If you don't like it, stop doing it.
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Stumbler Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:52 PM
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26. I prefer firemen, personally
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:35 PM
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13. He should have been put in jail.
And fuck all the piece of shit apologists who think otherwise. Sick fucks.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:55 PM
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15. In my state, beating a child is a serious felony.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:57 PM
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17. I just watched the video. It was absolutely shocking!
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Celtic Merlin Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:00 PM
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18. This example is a MINOR one.
I've known cops - personally - for forty years. As neighbors, clients, and friends. There are alot of good coops out there, but there are FAR too many who abuse their authority, their position, and/or the power they have. There are dozens and dozens of examples on YouTube of over-officious jerks with badges. The time has come for "We, The People" to demand that there be a house-cleaning within our law enforcement communities on EVERY level.

Anybody who remembers the RNC in Minneapolis and how the police conducted themselves there knows this.

Anybody who has seen some of the video evidence from the G-20 knows this.

The time has come to "thin the herd" and replace the thugs, brutes, and mental-cases with Police Officers. When it starts, their attitudes will adjust on their own, but once the evidence is there, there can be no other solution. The bad ones have got to go.

For this kind of shit must stop. Permanently.

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist
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retired af major Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:27 PM
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21. and
de-militarize them and roll back their powers granted in the name of the war on drugs.
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Celtic Merlin Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:23 PM
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25. Absolutely!
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