Buh bye Jerry Waters AM radio local rightwing talk show

[Lasher]

The Jerry Waters show, a local Charleston WV AM radio Rush Limbaugh wannabe, has been put out of its misery. Jerry had been stinking up the airwaves from 10 AM to noon every weekday with his rightwing broadcasts.

The founder of the parent broadcasting company had been carrying the show at a loss, making up for the red ink with revenues from profitable FM broadcasts. When he died in December his daughter inherited his estate and shut the show down. I think their last broadcast was around the first of March.

Here is what was once the show's website (warning, hold your nose) where you can see all of their twelve or so former listeners protesting the loss of their subsidized free airtime to promote their rightwing agendas.

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Too bad, so sad. Buh bye! :hi:

[Hubert Flottz]

1. Sympathy can ALWAYS be found in the dictionary.

And you can bet your Funkin' Wag-a-nol that the state is a far better place, without that kind of noxious, caustic, air pollution, being snuffed out by people wising up. It took a while for the Reaganite/Bushite GOPers to dumb down America and it's going to be an equally long time, before people really do finally wise up again.

Now if Bray Cary on WOWK TV(CBS)would just catch lockjaw, it would improve things even faster. When I think "Bray," I think Jack-ASS and I think correctly...I think! I'd watched 13 news since I was a youngster, but Bray Cary's hatefully rabid, pushy, hard right wing line of bullshit, ran me off about a year ago. WSAZ(NBC)is about the only watchable local TV news left. The other two local channels around the capitol city are FOX and FOX...SO, we're stuck with a Couple of less than sly FOXes and a jack ass!

Clue Number One, "Bray"...The Right Wing...Ain't ever, been the Bright Wing.(they forget EVERYTHING)

I'll check out your link.

[Lasher]

2. Secondary (perhaps) story here about owners subsidizing rightwing broadcasts

Hubert,

You probably have noticed but I wanted to point this out for the lookers-on. Note that for many years the old rightwinger who owned the parent company kept this propagandafest on the air at a loss, subsidized by profits from their separate FM broadcasts that were in the black.

This is just a tip of the iceberg glimpse into the dangers of media consolidation. And it's been going on for a long time. Free speech is good. Exclusive free access to the microphone is not.

[Hubert Flottz]

4. RE: "kept this propagandafest on the air at a loss"

Do you see a pattern there! Look at the LOSERS in Washington that they've backed! Look at the band of criminals, outlaws and gangsters from the Moore Klan all the way through the Bush Klan. Bush is the KING of LOSERS!

[Lasher]

7. Notice about how they whine about how much debt WV is in

Sometimes when they would complain about that I would call in and say I was concerned about red ink too but the state debt is nothing compared to what Junior has run up nationally. Jerry would say he liked to keep the discussion on local issues. He said that a lot when he didn't want anybody to bring up anything bad about Publicans. But if there was something at the national level he wanted to discuss, then all of a sudden it wasn't just a local show any more.

One good thing about it was that it was pretty easy to win arguments in the chat room, even though I was usually the only Democrat there, against a half dozen or so Publicans. Not because I'm smart, it was because they're dumb.

[Hubert Flottz]

8. The Pubs games all kind of seem to have floating sets of rules...

that always change to their advantage as they go along. In a game where the rules are set in stone, before the game starts, the pubs always end up crying and going home with a bloody nose. Bush is their King because they are all pretty much the same sorry bratty types of individuals. They will bully you until you stand up to them, but then they run for cover when they think they are about to get the ass whipping that they've just been begging for.

I've dealt with the repub's twisted points of view all my life and now I don't need that shit anymore. I don't have to tolerate their shit, because I don't go around any of them anymore. When one of them gets in my face I let them know where I stand ASAP and they usually move on and STFU. I don't have ANY republican friends or relatives anymore, because I've put them all on ignore for real. I don't want them and I don't need them...and bye-Gawd I have found that I enjoy my life so much more without those abrasive, caustic, lying, assholes anywhere near me!

Anyone who tries to trash my state and my country and steal my vote, because or their blind greed and their narrow minded lemming like stupidity...I don't need in any way, shape, or form.

[wvwildfire07]

46. PATHETIC is another

PATHETIC is another word that can be found in the dictionary....

Just look up defunct radio personalities; almost defunct message boards; total losers; and you will find pathetic right next to a picture of Jerry Waters....

[Hubert Flottz]

3. P-U-K-E and G-A-G!

Reading a few of "Heavy Hitler's" asinine posts reminded me of why I like DU and the Freeper Control here!

And them using the Gorge Bridge as a mascot ticked me off from the get go. I worked on that rascal and I never met anybody up on that thing, when it was being built, that wasn't a good democrat and a member of a trade UNION. They should ask the Ironworkers what they think of Bush sometime! I wonder why Bush never goes out on a union job like that with his cute little hard hat on? The GOPers tried to name that bridge after that arch criminal Arch Moore and the people of this state wouldn't tolerate it.

The "Heavy Hitlers" reminded me of the semi toothless non-Fighting Backwash Brigade over at Free Rub.(Skoal Brothers)

[Gatchaman]

5. What a dickhead.

But I did like this picture he posted.

[Hubert Flottz]

6. They all need a bumper sticker that says...

"Dickhead and proud of it!"

I agree with you about their sign though.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

9. Now if they can get rid of that racist Tom "drug-addicted minorities' Roten in Huntington...

all will be well

[crystal dawn]

10. wow i'm a little late on this topic

But I had to chime in. I'm the great crystal dawn who posts on Jerry's board once in a while. Kris the Lib was a regular caller into his local show and got me and a friend to join in. We'd call in once in a while but mostly post on the board. Needless to say, we are despised. hehe

It's funny that only a couple of weeks before his show got canned, Jerry was making fun of Air America going bankrupt. To me, the broadcasting company that supported his show was operating at a loss as well. What's even funnier is he is trying to convince (or has convinced) his faithful followers that it was he who was ready to quit the show. Hmm.... He's now started a podcast and the heavy hitters are creepily overjoyed. lol http://www.wvheavyhitters.com/viewforum.php?id=17

The guy is a board nazi and deletes/edits your posts so he can win an argument.

Here's a quick peek at the massive protest held in his honor. http://www.mywvhome.com/wvprotest.htm

Anyway, just thought it was quite funny to see this topic on here. For a while many would attempt to debate me and the handful of other communist liberals to no avail. Now they pretty much ignore us. lol

[crystal dawn]

11. Hey Lasher

Are you LiberalJim ??

[Lasher]

12. No, I am not LiberalJim but I have traded emails with him

I am the lone Democrat who was participating in the chat room when he first came on board. I stopped calling/listening/chatting when Jerry started cutting me off. He said he encouraged calls from people with differing views. But that was true only if those people were unable to defend their positions.

[crystal dawn]

13. Ah ok.

I only got on the chat room once or twice. I would call in sometimes in the beginning and he basically would try to marginalize me or then cut me off as well.

His message board is no different. If he thinks he isn't winning an argument he edits or completely deletes your posts. And for some reason he won't allow any talk about e-voting machines. Hmm...

And it's not like me or any other liberals were being trolls or pot stirrers. When I first joined I was very cordial and would make solid debatable arguments, but I was attacked and called names. Crystal Meth is my personal fav. I think now I'm just a pot stirrer. heh

Hope his podcast does well!! :)

[crystal dawn]

14. Look what I found!

http://heavyhitters.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=29

gawd I'm so great...

[neverlander]

15. Waters is at it again

What does it take to shut this loser up! he is such a jerk
Board Nazi is an understatement. He threw 5 of us off the other day
because we disagreed with him over a stupid police video.
He has an ego problem, at least. If you don't feed the ego, you got to go!

[Lasher]

16. He doesn't have his stupid radio show anymore.

Now all he has is this stupid message board and his enormous ego problem.

Waters has already been pretty much shut up since he doesn't have his radio show. Now the best way to finish him off is to just ignore him. Don't visit his message board.

Do yourself a favor. Go here to LeftyBlogs to find local Democratic blogs, in addition to the one we're on right now:

http://www.leftyblogs.com/westvirginia/

[neverlander]

17. Jerky Waters

Thank You for the link. I enjoy the message board and would love to find one besides the JERKS to visit.

[Lasher]

18. Don't forget the DU WV forum.

It's pretty cool and it would be even better if you were to weigh in regularly.

Lasher

[crystal dawn]

19. Neverlander.....

Was wondering where you went. Jerrie has been doing this forever. He hates to be shown up. It's like the Property Tax thread where I totally destroyed him, and even tho he didn't delete ALL of my posts, he closed the topic.... yet still adds his own replies after no one else can comment. I guess he enjoys talking to himself, much like ibposing.

Please see my shameless parody of the board. :)

http://crystaldawnrulz4evah.blogspot.com/2007/10/too-much-time-on-my-hands.html

[neverlander]

27. Waters just kicked me off again!

Where does this guy get off, what a jerk!!!
If he thinks kicking us off is going to help him I got news for him.
It just shows everyone what a jerk he really is. Anyone that cannot
accept a good debate from all sides needs to get out of the forum business
altogether. He is just feeding his ego with little people who don't know any better.
Check this out

http://wvjerksanddummiesexposed.blogspot.com/

I thought I would give all of those who had a problem with this guy
a place to sound off!!
I have more plans to tell the world about this narcissist, jack bottom.


BTW...I just got the response to the email I sent to ask why I was removed again...here it is.


I can't login again. What did I do wrong this time? If you have a problem it would be nice if you would let someone know what it is so they can correct it. At least respond as to why this keeps happening.

Let me answer your question this way:

Neverlander.... Quote:
"What does it take to shut this loser up! he is such a jerk
Board Nazi is an understatement."

"I enjoy the message board and would love to find one besides the JERKS to visit."


There ya go! Let it be wrtten, let it be done!

While I have fun with the messageboard and little bothers me, the one thing
I really dont care for is having the light of entire liberal world shine on my little
messageboard.

You see... it's local... not national. And so now it cant be read by anyone except
registered members. Fact is, I'm growing tired of the board myself and will most
likely remove it at some point and just post my comments on the main website.

See? The world really IS black & white. :)

Me thinks this is NOT the way to keep the light off of himself and his board.

[Lasher]

29. Why don't you tell him about it yourself?

He's posting downthread.

[neverlander]

32. Thanks!!

Thanks I think I will. (I didn't see his name down there.)
And enjoy it very much.

[wvwildfire07]

45. Your not the First and I am sure wont Be the Last

Jerry has a problem with control.

I think he suffers from what can only be called "little" and I did say "little" man syndrome.

Anything or anyone he can't control infuriates him. he can't stand not having total control.

That is why he bans you has banned me has banned many from his now closed board.

Maybe it is the shorts and stupid hawain shirts he wears. Maybe it is too many viagra - not enough blood getting to the brain. I don't know.

[skywv]

20. Jerky Waters

Let it be written, let it be done! :)

Now, let's tell the truth for a change and see how that goes over....

Here is the disclaimer to my messageboard:

"The Heavy Hitters message board was installed for the purpose of allowing the avid listeners of the old Jerry Waters show to have a place to interact.

Heavy Hitters were people who, for the most part... agreed with what was being said on the air. They also attended many of the dinners held, and had one thing in common: They pretty much agreed on a certain way of thinking.

These are the members here today. With the exception of a few who are "visitors"... (and are allowed into our home on the Net with the assumption that they are GUESTS and not "members" (no matter what it says below their name) and are in fact "Will & Pleasure" members, who may be here today... gone tomorrow.

Bottom line: This is a private message board where the public is allowed in under certain conditions. Never think it's anything else."


There it is. It's simple to understand. It's like being invited into my house for a discussion. It's not a free-for-all. It's actually a PRIVATE affair, (unlike this board). There are thousands of open boards on the Net, and thousands more private boards. Mine is one of them. Still don't get it? That's OK, I understand....

[Lasher]

21. Well that's not what you said on your loser radio show.

You said you welcomed callers with differing opinions. But you hid behind the microphone cutoff switch when when a discussion wasn't going your way, then defamed those callers on the air once they couldn't defend themselves.

I didn't see you in any of those photos of Spike and Don on the Riviera together. I thought for sure your good buddy Don would have invited you along. If you did get to go, please share pictures of you guys there together if you have any.

[Hubert Flottz]

23. Fee Fii Foe Freeper

Christ it smells like Bushit in here!

[Lasher]

24. No need to worry.

The pussy won't come back to debate because he can't clutch at the mic cutoff switch while he's sitting on Blankenship's lap.

[Hubert Flottz]

25. Those Friends Of Skoal really stink together!

Bush's Boyz!

[skywv]

26. No need to worry. Posted by Lasher

Aww... you're just mad Halburn cause you cant read my messageboard any more. }(

[Lasher]

28. What message board?

You gotta message board? Must get a lotta action there. Can't see how you find the time to bless us with your attention here.

Oh, I forgot. You don't have that loser AM radio show anymore, do you? You must have lots of time, what with being between jobs and everything.

[neverlander]

31. He has a message board

I think he has about 5 posters intoto.
All have multiple personalities, thats why there is rarely any disagreement.

[wvwildfire07]

44. Jerry Waters - Where Are You

Where are you JERRY??????

JERRY WATERS....
JERRY WATERS.......
JERRY WATERS.........

BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THE FORMER RADIO HOST OF THE NOW DEFUNCT "JERRY WATERS SHOW"

If he has to respond to much more in a forum where he has no control - he may just close himself off completely from the rest of kanawha county and the state of west virginia.

Then where would we be without the all knowing Jerry to tell us how to think? Or should I say where will his kool aid drinking minions be????? I will tell you LOST...

[neverlander]

30. Private??????

What makes you think anything on the WWW is private.
Waters spews propaganda for himself and others on the WWW and thinks it can be kept private!
That speaks volumes...he is right...the jokes do write themselves.

BTW Jer.. sorry I dented your ego.
Your propaganda machine not running so well these days, it can't work if nobody can read it.

[neverlander]

34. We agree......who is we?

We get it...do you????

[wvwildfire07]

47. Who does the guy think he is???

Who does the guy think is?? in a movie with Charlton Heston playing moses....

Let it be written.. Let it be done....

This guy has a serious EGO....

Time to DEFLATE THE BIG HEAD.... I am talking about the one on his shoulders the other I hear is nothing to write home about.

[neverlander]

163. here we go again........

Someone printed the board and is going all over town (Nitro) with it. It apparently went to one posters job and got them in some kind of trouble. Waters is really pissed about it and throwing people off again.
Here I was beginning to think he was gonna let them have at it for once. Dish it out, but don't take it should be the board motto!
Several candidates are posting there, how stupid is that?????
They say stupid things and then wonder WHY people are laughing at them.
This is too funny.

[neverlander]

33. Not quite all until Agnello goes

WCHS has got to lose Mike Agnello too, before we can call all well.

[Name removed]

43. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[neverlander]

50. advertisers

Some of us have been contacting some of his advertisers to let them know what his show is about. It amazes me how many did not even know they had ads on his show. Many said they purchased with a local FM station and had no idea their ads were being used on WCHS 58. Several were quite upset by it all and indicated an intention to contact the station and complain, one I talked to myself planned to pull their ads. No ad support=no show.
Hit them in the pocketbook if you expect to be heard.

[ThomWV]

22. I quit listening to Morgantown radio

[Name removed]

35. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[crystal dawn]

36. This is great!

I knew he closed the board because him and the nun are going on another witch hunt.

Quote Waters:
"Bottom line: This is a private message board where the public is allowed in under certain conditions."

Now that you two have some burning to do.....jeesh, why not just plan the attack at Shoney's? hahahahahahaha

[neverlander]

37. Other local blogs to see..

http://wvjerksanddummiesexposed.blogspot.com/

http://changenitro.blogspot.com/

Here are a couple more places to explore and please feel free to add your input!!!!!
I started these blogs to deal with the Jerk and the NUN

[crystal dawn]

38. Be sure to check mine

sometime early next week. Another spoof comin atcha!

www.crystaldawnrulz4evah.blogspot.com

[neverlander]

39. Huh?

Is the Nun coming after Nitro again?

[crystal dawn]

40. nah,

i'm just having fun w/ photoshop

[neverlander]

41. HeeHee

Can't wait to see it

[wvwildfire07]

49. Great Blog

Great Blog crystal.

[wvwildfire07]

48. People need to see these

People who dislike jerry waters and what is going on in Nitro need to visit these links.

[wvwildfire07]

42. Jerry Waters Acknowledged his Message Board is Not the HOTTEST IN WV!!!!

What can only be said was a mighty blow to the EGO of Jerry Waters was seen clearly when after this thread was posted - he removed the words "You haven't seen Mywvhome.com till you've seen our message board !" It even has a place to click to enter, it says, "Click HERE to post your comments on West Virginias HOTTEST message board!"

He removed the misleading statements from his web site and entrance to his pathetic message board, which he had to close because he couldn't keep people who had differing views from posting.

What is Jerry Waters if no one can see his hold over his minions. Pehaps you on this board can come up with a good answer to that question.

"What is Jerry Waters if no one can see the hold he has over his kool aid drinkers"

[crystal dawn]

51. Thanks for the props wvwildfire07! :)

And thanks to my super secret username, I am able to show you all what the Heavy Drinkers are now saying.

See: http://crystaldawnrulz4evah.blogspot.com/2008/02/so-for-all-you-unfortunate-peons-who.html

[neverlander]

52. Bless you !!!!

I love this....you are great!
I wonder how many more closet antiJerryists are out there?

[neverlander]

53. Letter from the Lawyer

Mr. Waters has (I am told: note hear say) posted a letter from his favorite lawyer on his board. Seems they are complaining about "a blog" (no one knows what blog) that is unfriendly to some in their group. If they do not want to be critisized for their actions they probably should mind their own business...then no one would care what they did.
The way they have done things has hurt people..all in the name of good according to them. I men real people, with kids and dogs and cats, who work hard and try to get by like we all do. What is good about dividing a whole town to prove your point. IMO that is bad, and selfish, and down right mean!
Last time I checked there are two ways to do everything...the good, decent, positive way and the bad, nasty, negative way. Apparently they prefer the latter since the results have been so very destructive. Shame on them all.

[skywv]

54. Letter from the Lawyer

People PEOPLE....

As much as I appreciate all your time and effort against me, I really don't deserve it.

1... As I told my old listeners, I really don't CARE about what goes on in Nitro. And to this very day, I normally only post the latest news without making comment. The only comment that I have made in the past YEAR is about the council having no idea of the shape they were in. If I were as involved in Nitro the way you seem to think I am, I would be leading the charge. I don't have TIME to lead any charges these days. And Nitro is the LAST place I'd waste my time on if I did. I can see too many people taking this all too seriously, to the point of making very slanderous statements. That's between you and the people you've slandered, as I don't get involved like I did on the air anymore. Why?

2... I was paid to do a job, and that was to make the phones ring. It's just that simple. All the BS and bluster you heard was "often" just that. It was a SHOW people. And if you cant tell the difference in a show and bluster... and the real thing, then you'll likely vote for Obama. Anyone can tell you that after I turned off the mic, we laughed until we were in tears sometimes. Why? Because "some" people didn't know a "show" when they heard one, and got very upset. Fine. So I was "the guy you loved to hate". Nothing wrong with that. Lots of people make a living that way. While I'm conservative, I'm neither Republican nor a right wing kook. However, my messageboard is an extension of the show. How else are you going to keep the people riled-up? :rofl:

3...You people have no idea who I am, although you THINK you do. Anyone who's met me in person will tell you that I'm quite the opposite of what I portray. But if you want me to be Satan, fine.. I'll be anything you'd like. :)

4...The internet's fun isnt it? You can hide behind all sorts of fun names and say anything you'd like. And most of the time that's OK. But "sometimes", you can cross the line, as has been done on several of these posts. Again... none of my business. You can call me anything as long as you dont call me late for supper. :) But others aren't as easy going as I am, so I'm sure you'll see some changes along the way.

5...Finally, I appreciate you remembering me after all this time. :) Who knows.. I may return like a bad habit someday to do another show! (although I hope not):rofl: And I'm sure you feel the same way. So take care all... remember, you're not here long, so make the MOST of it! :)

[neverlander]

55. slan·der Pronunciation Key n.

slan·der Pronunciation Key n.

Law Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
A false and malicious statement or report about someone.

I have not read anything false here yet. There are facts and opinion.
Seems to me all you guys think as long as you are not on the receiving end anything goes. How long did you guys think Nitro folks would sit back and take all the crap? Commented or not, you have allowed it to go on.
I would bet my right arm there are copies of what has been posted on your board enough to fill a book.

I have also read worse in the Vent Line and Readers Voice than I have read here.

The division of an Entire Town is not a small thing, if people were trying to do the "right "thing it should have stopped long before now.

[skywv]

56. slan·der Pronunciation Key n

Again you've misjudged me. I've been operating message boards since 1997, and I learned long ago that the LAST thing you want to waste time on is "board wars". You will never see anything posted here on my board. I wont allow it... period.

Next: whenever you make horrible accusations about someone by name, who is not a public figure, you must be ready for the fallout. (whatever that may be). You know me, I can take just about anything because it comes with the territory. But to get very personal on a national board about private people who have no dog in the fight, is a very dangerous thing indeed. I know I wouldn't want to do it.

As far as your comment that "I allowed it to continue": I deleted as many "against" Nitro posts as I did "For" Nitro posts. People on both sides became totally outrageous at times. Are there more posts "against" Nitro? You bet. But those posts are (although I dont check them every day) non inflammatory.. non personal posts. They are opinions. If they became personal, I deleted them. I have left all the "for" Nitro posts up that fit these guidelines also. Fact is, I have detractors on BOTH sides because of deleted posts that I thought were dangerously over the top.

[neverlander]

57. Not Public?

Who is not a public figure that has been mentioned here?
The only people I see mentioned have been VERY public.

[neverlander]

58. Checked it out

Charleston Newspaper Archives

a dozen pages on Don Karnes...public
many articles on Karen Fritz, city activist....public
Also many on Wanda Carney, of WVWTK.....public
you....public
Mike Agnello...public
Mike Clifford, there are over 20 pages on him.....very public

What is your beef?
Besides in order to be slander it must be a falsehood, or is someone complaining about the truth being told?

[skywv]

59. Checked it out

You failed to mention two names, who are private.

They are on another thread, not this one.

[neverlander]

60. Found them

I found them, not my posts so I missed them.
But still, if what is posted is true there is probably no recourse.

BTW Sky, come on, you know the whole WWW is global. Local board or national board, it IS the internet.

[skywv]

61. Found them

The internet is only as global as you want it to be. For instance: I have pages that only a few are privy to. I have other pages that the entire world can see. I'd guess there are as many webpages that you CANT see, as ones you can.

[Lasher]

63. Your radio show was funny, as you say.

You didn't make it that way on purpose though.

[neverlander]

64. rewriting

Talk about re writing history...quite a back peddling job there JW !

[crystal dawn]

66. "Jerry Waters" Controls the Message

Jerry said:
"1... As I told my old listeners, I really don't CARE about what goes on in Nitro. And to this very day, I normally only post the latest news without making comment.

2... I was paid to do a job, and that was to make the phones ring. It's just that simple. All the BS and bluster you heard was "often" just that. It was a SHOW people. And if you cant tell the difference in a show and bluster... and the real thing, then you'll likely vote for Obama."


Please don't try to be coy with us. You are not very good at it. Although you may have only posted the latest Nitro news w/o comment, you were quite adept at framing the topic so that your fanbase would further the message you wanted everyone to hear.

Which takes me to my further point about your message board and former radio show. There were many particular topics and messages you want disseminated and certain ones you wanted rid of. It was so apparent in the way you muted callers, edited & deleted posts, and encouraged certain thought.

Topics that were heavily edited and/or deleted:

E-voting machines
Property taxes
Coal mining
Walmart

E-voting for example. It would have been one thing if you had in influx of arguments or disinformation being spewed, making the debate noxious... yet you did not allow ANY mention of how crappy e-voting machines are. Yet you were more than happy to talk about how great they were. Same with how great coal mining and Walmart is for middle America. Makes you wonder "who's" message you are really speaking for doesn't it?

So please, spare us the argument that the board or your show was just for you and your listeners to have a big pow-wow and agree on stuff about. You and everyone else knows a lot of locals read your stuff, therefore the MESSAGE IS TO BE CONTROLLED.

[skywv]

67. "Jerry Waters" Controls the Message

You bet I do. I operate the board.. I make the rules. Simple eh?

Let's not forget that I advised anyone not happy with the way I ran things to start their OWN board.. many times. I told you that they were free, and easy to set up. Then you could spend 24 hours a day posting what you hate about me and the world in general.

But did you do that? No. You elected to came here and use somebody else's board. What is it about you people that always demand to be heard.. on other peoples dimes?

Fact of the matter is, I DID allow a bunch of things I disagree with and dislike very much. But people still post these things... so it must have been something "more" than just posts I didn't like. For instance: The straw that broke the camels back was one poster who literally Spammed my message board with hundreds endless posts. You couldnt even get a word in edgewise. And the fact is... once you've made your point, and I mine... it's time to move on. Otherwise it simply becomes an endless cycle of going over the same old ground again and again.

Finally, you still don't understand one simple thing: Coming into my board is like coming into my home. If I dont appreciate what you're saying, I first warn you... then show you the door. I'm sure you'd treat me the same way in your home. Difference is, (as mentioned above)... I show you where other homes are that you can move into and say whatever you want. You even complain about that! So I guess that your demands to be allowed into my home are some sort of 'right" that you have? Better re think that.

[neverlander]

68. Question

Would you prefer we do a blog or something? Do you think less people would see it? What?
So this board is National, it is no more or less visable than any other. Why can you not understand
the concept of WWW? You are constantly telling people to wake up, WAKE UP yourself. If I put up a blog, or start my own board or post here, unless I LIMIT the access, the WHOLE WORLD can see it. Granted some people limit access, but those who don't are as visable as a fish bowl. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

BTW if messageboards are FREE please explain!
(why would you need donations to keep yours up if it is free?)
If in fact it is free I will happily start a new one.

You are not clear just what it is you expect even if you think you are.

In addition the so called spammer...is most likely a very nice OLD woman ( and a neighbor of mine) who did not know the rules because she had never been on the internet before. You could have helped her more instead of treating her badly. She went by minnie and is nearly 70 years old. She was very upset with a couple of topics and didn't know internet etiquite. She said she even ask you to explain and did not understand your answer. She did not mean to SPAM anything, she just sits at home all day alone! I know who that was and you STILL have her blocked, not only from YOUR board but listed on a national banned list. And you complain about us.
You should get that old lady off those lists!

[skywv]

75. Question... Posted by neverlander

Quote: "BTW if messageboards are FREE please explain!
(why would you need donations to keep yours up if it is free?)
If in fact it is free I will happily start a new one."

Message boards have been free since the start of the internet. Mine is free, as are many. You can start all the boards you want for free, as long as you don't mind putting up with the ADS that appear.

My first board was a personally own board. Not by me, but the guy who owned the service. He paid for the bandwidth (the REAL expense of a message board), and asked if I could gather some donations to help with the expenses. This I did. But the board became a little unstable and so I decided to move to a free board. This board didn't have any Ads for the first 6 months or more... now it's full of em. BUT...it's free... so I don't really care. You want one? No problem! Here's where you sign up:

http://www.freeforums.org/

There are hundreds of others on the net also.

I think too many people are confusing the way I run a message board... with an open forum. This is not and has never been the case. My political messageboard has been "mostly" an easy way for me to BLOG my thoughts and opinions. I COULD have just started a blog and that would have been fine. But due to the show, I wanted to use some of the comments from the message board. This is why the board was started... and it was NEVER intended to be a free-for-all where people could simply go on forever about whatever they hated about me or my positions or how great Democrats are or anything else. It was MOSLY a place to get things off MY chest and then move on. Some people here seem to think I'm some kind of control freak. Well... I DO believe in order. And I DONT believe in rehashing the same political views over and over. For instance: I think BOTH the Democrats AND Republicans SUCK! Shake-em both up together and the same type of problems pour out. But enough about that. :)

Again... I have operated my message board no different then inviting you into my home: I will discuss any topic with you until I'm tired of it. If you continue, I show you the door. It's my home, and so I have the right to tell you to leave. When I'm in YOUR home, you have that same right. But don't come into my home DEMANDING to be heard.. because you simply do not possess that right. Start your own board FOR FREE, and then you can toss ME out when I aggravate you! How's that for fair?

[Lasher]

78. I agree with that.

Your message board, your radio show, if people decide to be your guests they need to respect your rules. This is reasonable and you'll find similar standards everywhere. But just because this is so it doesn't rule out the possibiltiy that you might be a control freak.

The problem I had was you were not consistent about your rules when you had your talk show. You would say people with differing views were welcome but sometimes you would cut off callers or message board participants if they had views that you didn't like. And you would rule a topic out of order because it was a national issue, saying you wanted to talk about local issues. But you talked about national issues when it suited you.

I've always heard you should never argue with the person who has the microphone and when I realized that was your game I decided I didn't want to be your guest anymore. And I wasn't. And FWIW, I have no desire to visit the website you have now.

And on the general subject, we are currently guests at a website that also has rules. I am not a moderator and I speak only as a fellow guest.

Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

And so, it is frowned on if you say something like, 'Democrats suck', even if you include Republicans in that judgment. DU moderators will ban those who do not respect this and other rules. I don't want that to happen to you because you have been mostly polite during your visits here and maybe you can be almost tolerable - if you can't control the cutoff switch.

[skywv]

80. I agree with that

There's much more behind the scenes to a radio show than most people imagine: There's timing: News breaks, station breaks etc). These are sometimes timed to the second. There's guests on the phone that call unannounced that you need to get on ASAP. There's Guests waiting in the studio. Phone and studio glitches and all sorts of other things.

Beyond the technicalities however, there's the "course" of the show: Why kind of show will it be? Will it be a "poor mans Rush Limbaugh"? Will it be just like most others? If so... what's the point? Anyone with half a brain and confidence can do that. What could you do that's never been done before in this market? What could you do to make you different? (not necessarily BETTER... just DIFFERENT) What might you try just for the heck of it to cause people to listen, whether they like it or believe it?

This "course" is what I decided to try. I certainly don't have the talent to be another Rush or any OTHER national host. That was never my intention anyway. My idea was to have FUN for a year or two. To do something (anything) that hadn't been tried before. If that included hanging up on some callers as part of the show... then that's what I did. As a matter a fact I did a LOT of things as "part of the show", because that's all it ever was.. a SHOW. Remember when I screamed and yelled and people thought I was going to have a heart attack on the air? Show. Ask anyone who witnessed any of this first hand: Mic went off and I'd start laughing. Now... that doesn't mean that I "usually" didn't believe in what I was saying... it meant that I SAID IT in such a way that people thought I was overly passionate (or just crazy). That's called showbiz. And in the middle of this showbiz, some people were caught in the crossfire. That may have been you for instance.

But I DID.. at all cost TRY to keep the topics local. Why? Because every other station in the state covered national topics. (including our own other shows) And the only time I used national topics was when I ran out of local material (try talking two hours straight about WV almost nonstop. Start...now) OR when something of real national importance was (I felt) important to West Virginians. Those topics were few and far between because I've ALWAYS said that if we cant even control our local government, we certainly cant control the Nations. I still believe that.

The bottom line is that when you have 100% control over your show, you must decide what kind of show it's going to be and go with your instincts. I only wanted to be on the air for two years tops. I was on almost four. That was enough for awhile. While I left a lot of people (who don't know me) with a bad taste in their mouths, they WILL remember me. (Unlike many other hosts that have been on that station). And as they say... there's no such thing as bad publicity right? ;)

[Lasher]

84. Yes, I've seen your claim that you were just joking.

I don't buy that. But even if that's true you were being dishonest with your listeners.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt on 'local issues'. But I know for a fact you cut people off short when you were not obliged to do so because of scheduling.

[neverlander]

86. uh huh

truth is he just gets really angry when people disagree with him and or his buddies and make good arguments to prove them wrong.
He has kept more lies about Nitro going than almost anyone else. If sis said it it must have been gospel.

[skywv]

77. Question

Quote: "In addition the so called spammer...is most likely a very nice OLD woman ( and a neighbor of mine) who did not know the rules because she had never been on the internet before."

No.. that's not who I'm talking about. (Actually I have NO idea of WHO you're talking about) Try again. If you think really hard, you might come up with the obvious answer. (and it's not anyone here.. I dont think)

[neverlander]

87. You must be thinking

TT

[neverlander]

83. Spammer

Even if she is not your spammer, you should get her off those WWW blocked lists.

Her IP is blocked from places other than your board, which I am sure she wants no more to do with.

[crystal dawn]

69. Jerry has to keep changing his story

From "I don't care about anything" to "You bet I'm in control of the message." Only the geniuses on the Heavy Hitters will fall for your waffle, Jer. Won't work so well here.

Sure, many DU readers could care less about what your local board really is and how it is operated. And only those who have read it for a bit will know that it is more than a parley of like-minded half-wits gathering and agreeing with one another.

You come here with this benign attitude about it, that it is just for fun, and tell us not to take it so seriously. Yet you speak (type) quite differently on the HH. As neverlander pointed out, you practically YELL at people to WAKE UP. And then you delete, edit, and marginalize others. That's because it isn't simply a place for "avid listeners of the old Jerry Waters show to have a place to interact" but a place that many average locals and politicos read and are therefore influenced by.

Either you have taken it upon yourself to spread the kind of depravity (i.e. corporate welfare and blatant bigotry) that gets allowed there - which is quite narcissistic all on its own - or you are a willing participant in a much greater agenda of CONTROLLING THE MESSAGE. And either way, that makes you lame.


p.s. You are also a shameless plagiarist:
http://crystaldawnrulz4evah.blogspot.com/2007/11/delineate-this.html

And that makes you A Number One lame.

[skywv]

76. Jerry has to keep changing his story

Plagiarist? I often use quotes from work all over the world if that's what you mean. I usually try to reference them also. But so what? If the WORST I might be called is a plagiarist then let the good times roll! :)

Now.. as far as you taking your thoughts about me to a national board like this... a place where nobody cares about who I am or what I think... is just dumb. Most of the topics on the WV State forum here at the Democratic Underground are important topics about politics and other state issues. Why in the WORLD you would think I'm important enough to waste West Virginians time with all this crap I have no idea. This ISNT your private message board. It's accessed by people all over the state who don't know me.. you.. or anyone else here who keeps up this nonsense about ME. Nor do they CARE about me. Why should they? I'm nobody! I've said that from day one on the air! So WHY waste all of these peoples time by keeping this topic at the top? It's simple NOT an important issue in the big scheme of things to most West Virginians.

Besides, I'm afraid people are starting to get the idea that you really "want me". or something. ;)

[crystal dawn]

79. I think Jerry doesn't understand the definition of plagiarism.

From wikipedia:

"Plagiarism is the practice of claiming or implying original authorship of (or incorporating material from) someone else's written or creative work, in whole or in part, into one's own without adequate acknowledgement. Unlike cases of forgery, in which the authenticity of the writing, document, or some other kind of object itself is in question, plagiarism is concerned with the issue of false attribution."

See, that wasn't so hard was it? I put that in cool quotes cause I didn't try to pass off someone else's definition of plagiarism as my own... like you obviously try to pass other people's written word as your own. lol Besides, there would have been no reason to "reference" that kind of quote. It wasn't like you were quoting a statistic or a fact, or even an opinion. YOU were actually trying to call people "mavens of intellect" like you thought of that yourself. hahahahahah!

As I said before, DU members most likely don't care about any of this. But sometimes it's fun exposing people for what they really are. Especially if they are trying to pass themselves off as concerned citizens and they happen to be a loud voice, just like your show wuz.

But back to neverlander's point, there is no such thing as a local board. The internet tubes are global. Someone from Estonia can access your message board exactly the same way they can access the DU. lol

[skywv]

81. I think Jerry doesn't understand the definition of plagiarism.

Yes... believe it or not I do know the meaning. I simply used reference instead of "credit".

[skywv]

82. I think Jerry doesn't understand ...

Quote:
"But back to neverlander's point, there is no such thing as a local board. The internet tubes are global. Someone from Estonia can access your message board exactly the same way they can access the DU. lol"

OK Crystal.. it would appear that YOU don't understand anything about the internet, and message boards in particular: We all need to learn something new every day and so this is for you....

There IS such a thing as a "local message board". I know, I have one. Anyone can.

You set up a board, invite only your friends (even in your immediate neighborhood if you'd like) and nobody can see it nor access it. Even if they stumble onto the board by accident, they'd see nothing but a mostly blank page. You can make it local.. statewide, or national. It's all up to you. I even have ONE board that only me and one other person has used for several years. It's not rocket science.

[wvwildfire07]

85. Jerry Water's Can't Handle the Truth

Your problem Jerry, is that you open the doors when it suits you and close them when you are challenged or your "FRIENDS" are challenged.

You have stated publicly that you have WV Hottest Message Board. You boasted that you on your former radio show and your website welcome all ideas.

You always started your show with the phrase, "You want the truth, You can't handle the Truth."

Jerry, you and your kool-aid drinking minions - who can't handle the truth. All of you can dish it out - but by your actions - you can't take it.

[neverlander]

72. At it again

I am told that for a short while he left posters alone to express themselves,BUT NOW he is back to deleting posts that do not agree with his minions. He kicked CD off again and a few others.
Jerry will never learn that his "private" board is not private nor will it ever be.

[crystal dawn]

73. At it again

Fyi: Jer kicked me off when he did his spring cleaning and before I posted my most recent stuff here. Not that it really matters, but it wasn't anything I did on the the Heavy Drinkers Board.

[neverlander]

74. Psycho

You do not have to DO anything, the guy is PSYCHO, LOL.

[pwdgroup]

62. Jerry Waters - Bye Bye?

Anybody have anything good to say??

kanawhacountyblog.blogspot.com/

[neverlander]

65. ??????

Apparently not.

[Vet31203]

70. HA!

I will be weeping for him :)

William J Meyers for House 2008

[Lasher]

71. Meyers is from Iowa, running for the US house, right? n/t

[skywv]

88. To Lasher

Hmmm... it would appear that you've lost control of the WV topic section of this message board. The same thing was attempted on mine, so I sent them out the door and they wound-up here. Good luck with trying to any topics NOT concerning Nitro here. :eyes:

[neverlander]

89. Mr Waters is incorrect AGAIN

Jerry, you started your own Nitro thread and began allowing posters, including yourself, to trash Nitro with false information. When Nitro people came in to post the truth and defend those lies you proceeded to kick them out. You perpetuated the lies, and provided a forum for them.
I do not think you can critisise the DU for allowing the freedom of speech that you were obviously afraid of!
You obviously still have a problem with truth and have come to this board to try to stop it here as well.

Frankly we appreciate the forum to expose all your propaganda for what it is!
You, being a Repub, would not understand freedom of expression.

[crystal dawn]

90. Si si

We can also smell the horse manure when we see it, and are certainly not skeered when it is spoken freely.
But in Jer's defense, his is actually operated like any other when it comes to controlling the message. All boards are set up to promote one message or another. His just so happens to be the bigoted brand of skewed views.
Look at a lot of lefty (as many as righty) blogs/boards that monitor comments. They all kick off those that expose their weaknesses and hypocrisies. Except Jerry purposely edits and/or deletes certain posts to make *himself* look more informed and pop-U-laR. That's way lame, imho.

[neverlander]

91. Mr Waters better control his posters

He is now allowing his posters to trash private citizens.
This crosses all lines, everywhere. The particular citizens being attacked
are not likely to let it go. I hope he has sense enough to handle it.

I remember him on this board pointing out the inappropriatness of it.
One individual has told me they have had all of it they are going to take,
this is the second time he has been called on it.
He needs to inform his posters that they must cease and desist!

[skywv]

92. Mr Waters better control his posters

You must think I sit in front of the computer 24/7. Are you just nuts or what? The post were removed once I returned home. But let's not forget those same bunch of people (on your side) did the exact same thing there... and here a few weeks ago. I didn't see you crying about it then.

[neverlander]

93. Not all of them

There are still more there

[wvwildfire07]

97. Please Clarify.....

Jerry, you say that the "other side" posted similar things. Please be specific.

Is it rumor or speculation - or the fact that someone posted the TRUTH about some of your toddies and their husbands.

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RUMOR AND INNUENDO AND FACTS THAT CAN BE PROVEN WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS (AVAILABLE TO ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC - EVEN WITHOUT A FOIA REQUEST.)

[Name removed]

109. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[chocolot]

110. Check the rules

Have you checked the rules of the DU board?

[wvwildfire07]

96. It is the Double Standard Rule

His toddies can post libel, slander anything they want about whoever they want.

But the second someone posts the TRUTH about one of his toddies or their husbands and their criminal records - he cries FOWL.

We can all see through this phony.

[Name removed]

108. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[wvwildfire07]

95. Was Jerry a Nerd as a Kid - It would Explain alot

Jerry is way lame. I think he must have been a nerd in school. That is why he surrounds himself with his kool aid drinking toddies.

Ever wonder why he goes after "young girls"?

[neverlander]

94. send them here

If you really want rid of the Nitro folks, send 'em here
You said to get a forum for it, they did!



http://theplacetogonitro.freeforums.org/

[skywv]

99. send them here

Let me make one thing clear: I dont want to remove ANYONE from my board. I know you find that hard to believe but it's as true as the day is long. I have NEVER removed anyone for "holding an opposing view on anything". I HAVE removed them for other things however: Like not knowing when to quit, after all points have been made. Once both sides have made their argument, the mediator (that's me) must tell the plaintiffs and the prosecutors that now that the evidence is in from both sides, the case is closed and to move on to the next case.

But some people from BOTH sides will continue until the topic degrades into a PERSONAL mud sling-fest. Some people who have been on the board since day one become agitated by "outsiders" and say things they shouldn't because the "outsiders" keep egging them on. THAT'S when I must make a decision to first warn those involved, then remove posts, then remove the agitators who are causing the problems. Remember, my oldest members never cause any problems until someone from "outside" comes-in and stirs them up. And I'm not talking about DEBATE! I'm talking about DEGRADING the subject until it starts getting dirty... just like WvWildfire does on this board. I wont have it and I have never allowed it. There's a huge difference in talking about a persons personal life and what city officials have done. Let's be serious, there's SO much personal dirt that I could allow to be posted on Nitro, it would fill a book. But I haven't and I wont. Why? Because peoples personal lives have nothing to do with the problems of Nitro, that's why. There have been MANY times that I was aware of some bad things that were possibly about to hit the newspaper that I never allowed to be posted UNTIL the Press brought it out. I dont waste time on personal perversions or drinking habits or drug use or anything not pertaining to the topic. I have myself, only reported what I have personally witnessed. The rest of it is all rumor or innuendo or maybe EVEN THE TRUTH. But I have no way of knowing personally, one way or the other.

Here's what I DO know: If the radicals on BOTH sides would have acted a little better, I would have allowed the debate to continue. But as they couldnt play nice, I had to remove one side of the equation. And it always appeared that THAT side had the most radicals, so it was an easy decision to make.

[crystal dawn]

101. Let's make the truth clear

You removed only those people who were a threat to the message you wanted to control. You never played fair.

Now concerning Nitro, I could really give a crap since I don't live there and don't know anything about it. But I joined your board about two years ago knowing that I was one of the lone leeburals. I found it fun to debate you guys because your arguments/views/opinions were, and still are, so dang nutty.

Nevertheless, I specifically remember the topic I started posting on. It was about how great WalMart is for everyone! I simply made my side of the argument and all of a sudden, you and your ubers saw prey! First you guys started calling me names. Crystal Meth was my favorite, btw. Let's marginalize the liberal so anything she says is wrong. Your tactics are so transparent. (Same held true with your radio show). Then you guys bombarded me with the usual conservative brand of arguments that make zero sense. When that didn't work, you did your little deletes/edits/removals because you guys saw me as a threat. And I was a threat because I'm smart and know what the f**k I'm talking about (most of the time).

This went on for a while. I made many valid and non-combative points. In return, I was either called names or hordes of the ubers would respond to me about how wrong and communist I was. It was only natural that I defended myself.

(Note: you never deleted/removed any of your toadies for insults and not knowing when to quit).

So you can rewrite history on the DU and say that I was one of those people. In reality, it was me (and maybe two others) simply defending our opinions and WANTING to debate. You and your ubers wanted nothing of the sort. You let those jokers attack me and when it was obvious I was looking better than them....you removed me. Granted there was one time I called afan a not so nice name, but other than that, there was no reason to remove me.

And, you actually had the balls to end the "debate" (after much deletion and editing), but then still add two or three of your own comments at the end - so you could get the last word in? Or somehow rearrange the entire topic as though you and your toadies were right?? Again... that is very very lame. Only bullies and the less-intelligent do stuff like that.

[crystal dawn]

102. Prime examples of your transparent tactics HERE:

http://heavyhitters.freeforums.org/obamma-s-church-bunch-of-racist-blacks-t1266-30.html

I'm assuming ApewithGun posted the glaring hypocrisy in you and your toadies arguments when it comes to Obama. Yes, Obama aligns himself with religious nutjobs. But so does McCain! Hagee, anyone?? But you don't want your toadies to think about stuff like that. Only Obama is a racist pig, eh?


The second example you need a super secret username and password to access. From the Nitro thread:

http://heavyhitters.freeforums.org/commissioner-hardy-nitro-case-t1623-30.html#16659

Randy is only trying to voice his view on the subject and in return he is attacked - incessantly! This JED CLAMPETT douche is an asshole to everyone, yet you allow him to go on and on. Go f**king figure!

[skywv]

104. Re: Prime examples of your transparent tactics HERE:

And once again, you are WRONG! I deleted the posts because he said the following:

If John McCain had attended KKK rallies for 20 years and then claimed "Those aren't my views.....they're just the views of my Exalted Cyclops" would you cut him the same slack?

Now... to ME, that was the dumbest example of that argument that could be posted. However, I actually forgot what he posted after I deleted it, so I told him to post it again.

Here is my response:

WHY IN THE HELL DIDNT YOU USE ROBERT C BYRD INSTEAD OF McCAIN?

I have no love for McCain, (or ANY of them) but if you're going to use an example SO CLOSE TO HOME... use the one we're ALL FAMILIAR WITH!

See, I was trying to leave Byrd out of it. But both you and ape forced me to go there.. again!

[skywv]

103. Let's make the truth clear

You want me! :)

[wvwildfire07]

106. Dream On Jerry

Dream on Jerry - nobody wants you - that is why you are alone.

And when your not alone have to leave the country for young girls who don't know any better.

[crystal dawn]

107. buahahaha!

If I wanted a short old man, I'd go with Woody Allen before you! :p

[wvwildfire07]

105. Jerry - It Plays Both Ways

QUOTE BY SKYWV "But some people from BOTH sides will continue until the topic degrades into a PERSONAL mud sling-fest. Some people who have been on the board since day one become agitated by "outsiders" and say things they shouldn't because the "outsiders" keep egging them on. THAT'S when I must make a decision to first warn those involved, then remove posts, then remove the agitators who are causing the problems. Remember, my oldest members never cause any problems until someone from "outside" comes-in and stirs them up. And I'm not talking about DEBATE! I'm talking about DEGRADING the subject until it starts getting dirty... just like WvWildfire does on this board."


(Jerry Waters quote)People who have been on the board since day one become agitated by "outsiders" and say things they shouldn't because the "outsiders" keep egging them on. (end waters quote)

SOUNDS ALOT LIKE THE FOLLOWING: People who have lived in the city their whole lives becoming agitated and saying things they shouldn't because they were egged on by the OUTSIDERS so the OUTSIDERS could get a soundbite for the radio or video clip for the news.

This was done on more than one occassion by Karen Fritz and her video toting cronie Keith Stathers.

(Jerry Waters quote)That's when I must make a decision to first warn those involved, then remove posts, then remove the agitators who are causing the problems. Remember, my oldest members have never cause any problems until someone fro the "outside" comes in and stirs them up.(end waters quote)

I think many who have lived in Nitro for their entire lives warned Mrs. Fritz. Asked her to leave if she didn't have anything positive to add to the solution. The people who lived in Nitro all of there lives never caused any problems until some OUTSIDER came in and stirred them up.

(Jerry Waters quote)I'm talking about DEGRADING the subject until it starts getting dirty... just like WvWildfire does on this board."(end waters quote)

I'm talking about Kare Fritz DEGRADING the subject until it starts getting dirty.... Just as Karen Fritz with her scum sucking lawyer Mike Clifford and his employee Wanda Carney has done in the pages of the Charleston Gazette with the aid of Staff Reporter Rusty Marks.

SEE JERRY IT PLAYS BOTH WAYS.

[Lasher]

98. To Jerry

As I told you upthread, I am not a DU moderator and I speak only as a fellow guest. If you believe something inappropriate has been posted, click on 'Alert', which is to be found at the bottom left hand corner of every message. The process is explained here.

[skywv]

100. To Jerry

I have already used the feature and had some posts removed. The system works... but slowly sometimes. Just like I cant be at my board 24/7.. neither can the DU people, even with all their moderators. So I don't have an issue with that. I just hope YOU don't have an issue with not being able to talk about some of the more important topics of West Virginia, because they get buried by silly Nitro topics all day long.

[neverlander]

111. Silly????

A town is being burried in crap that you helped to dump and now it is SILLY???
What a jerk!

[skywv]

112. Silly?... Yes

Let's talk silly and juvenile:

One city councilman intimidates some poor little teenage girls at a donut shop and it makes the news.

Another city councilman e-mails naked photos of himself and THEY make the news.

The city hires the VERY PERSON THAT IS INVESTIGATING THEM and IT makes the news.

Taxpaid city officials are screaming at taxpayers in the hallways of council meetings at IT makes the news.

So far... it's all pretty silly to me. I didn't "dump" as much as I reported the news and gave my opinion to it. But so did a LOT of people.

[slyfox]

113. Not Quite So Silly

Silly and juvenile I would agree.... But just who is being JUVENILE...

One city councilman intimidates some poor litte teenage girls at a donut shop and it makes the news.....
Just how did it make the news??? It made the news because Wanda Carney took it to the news media. By the way doesn't she work for Mike Clifford the same Mike Clifford who is representing Karen Fritz is all of her litigation, NOW FAILED LITIGATION against the City of Nitro? The same Karen Fritz who was a co-host on your radio program and was claiming to be your cousin...

Another city councilman emails naked photos of himself and THEY make the news.....
Just who took that one to the news media Jerry?? By the way Karen Fritz was on your radio program talking about him being set up.

The city hires the VERY PERSON THAT IS INVESTIGATING THEM and IT makes the news.
Just who brought and kept the misinformation flowing to the news media over this item. Wanda Carney, Karen Fritz and Mike Clifford... Does anyone see a pattern here????

Taxpaid city officials are screaming at taxpayers in the hallways of council meetings makes the news.
Again, just who brought this to the news media Jerry???? Keith S. (who videos all of the Nitro City Council meetings, who just happened to be filming the night of the footage that made the news) was in the right position to capture the reaction of Councilman Tim Harrison after Karen Fritz accussed him of not paying his municipal fees (in front of others) just to get the response that was videoed and put on the news. NOW KAREN FRITZ IS INVOLVED WITH COUNCILMAN TIM HARRISON - SPEAKING UP ON HIS BEHALF AND FORMER COUNCILMAN HARRISON AND HIS WIFE ARE PRESENT AT ALL KAREN FRITZ DON KARNES FUNCTIONS.

So far... it's all pretty silly to you. You did much more than offer your opinion on the news from the City of Nitro - you gave Karen Fritz, Wanda Carney and Mike Clifford the platform they needed along with the aide of the Charleston Gazette Reporter Rusty Marks to defame individuals and their families.

BY THE WAY JERRY, YOU GAVE THE PLATFORM FOR KAREN FRITZ TO LEVEL MANY ACCUSSATIONS OF CRIMINAL WRONGDOING AND ACTIVITY BY INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE CITY GOVERNMENT. LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN THE CITY OF NITRO THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED DURING THE TIME FRAME MS. FRITZ WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IS THAT OF HER ASSOCIATES..... EVER HEARD OF ELECTION FRAUD. I GUESS YOU WILL THINK THAT IS PRETTY SILLY TO.

[skywv]

116. State treasurer cites Nitro as example of poor training

OK, forget about me. Take some of your anger out on State Treasurer John Perdue for a change. Here he is in todays Gazette:

The keys to the public treasury don't come with an instruction manual.

But with a recession looming and in the midst of what could be seen as a golden age for financial fraud, county and municipal officeholders would probably agree that they could use some fiscal guidance now more than ever.

"There's such a huge turnover in these cities, it's hard to keep trained and educated," says state Treasurer John Perdue. "But no one's giving the training."

The need for financial instruction for officeholders hit home with Perdue, he said, as he traveled the state to coordinate county and municipal participation in the state Board of Treasury Investments, an investment fund that pools money from state and local governments.

"I hear folks who manage our public funds say the same thing: They need more practical education in order to better perform their jobs," Perdue said.

The financial crisis that engulfed the town of Nitro late last year made clear how urgent action was, he said.

In November, Nitro officials revealed that they had overrun the budget by hundreds of thousands of dollars and were in danger of losing the city's insurance coverage.

The Kanawha County Commission pitched in emergency funding, and officials from Tri-State Racetrack & Gaming Center agreed to advance the town its fee payments, apparently staving off default.

Perdue and other members of the Treasury Investments board decided training seminars could avert debacles like Nitro's.

This month, the board will put on the first such session, at Charleston's Embassy Suites hotel, bringing in accounting and finance experts from business and government. They will cover topics ranging from basic cash management - for instance, how to get the best interest

rate from banks - to investment psychology and internal-controls oversight, or protecting against fraud.

The board will help pay for the seminars, Perdue said, but most of the funding will come from the board's contract financial consultants - UBS, JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Bank of New York Mellon Corp. - which see the training as a valuable tool for building the board's portfolio.

More....

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/Business/200804120274

[neverlander]

119. That does NOT make me angry.

What he said is that it is a problem all around.
What you have done is lay blame and TRASH people.
BIG<> BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!

[neverlander]

114. What about the PEOPLE?! What about the TRUTH?!

Did you, or Karen, or anyone else EVER stop long enough to THINK about the PEOPLE who live in Nitro??
I do not think you did. If you did you didn't care.
And ask yourself WHO made those mistakes?
Did you EVER have a conversation with ANY of the people you slammed?
Did you EVER go after their side of ANY story?
Did you EVER question what you were told?

Let's take this one at a time
Harrison's behavior was touted by YOUR very own Karen as a "set up"
made up to damage him by the "evil" city government.
Now you claim it was terrible...it was terrible.It was also a fact, not a "set up".

Clarks contact with the students at a donut shop was blown
WAY UP...where were the accusers when he asked to speak with them and their
parents to clear up the whole thing? Dissappeared into the woodwork?
Did you or Karen EVER ask what REALLY happened there????
Poor little girls MY FOOT!!!!!

City hires Terry, and makes news...right.
Terry stated MANY times before she was hired that
NOTHING was wrong in Nitro, she had found some mistakes and that was all.
She left a nasty taste in Karen's and Wanda's mouth when she left.
Did THAT have more to do with the Nitro bashing than ANYTHING else????????

Now let's talk about your REPORTING!!!!

Reporters, at least good ones, talk to all parties involved in a story, get FACTS and THEN PROCEED>
YOU hve NEVER TALKED with mosst of these people. NEVER!!!
You did NOT report, you GOSSIPPED!! The very thing you constantly claimed was part of the problem in Nitro.
Worse than that you Gossiped in such a way as to make it all sound like REPORTING!
What a bunch of lies you have helped to perpetuate!

One more thing...IF THE TRUTH IS TOLD....here it is!
Karen, you, Wanda and others wanted to get your "side" out no matter what !
You had all been shown up and proven wrong.
SO...why not just spin things into a MAJOR mess. Makes us look better.
You went after TT and others in Nitro who had proven you all wrong.
You all should have just walked away.

Then you added to the list, and took on a few more who defended the original
"culprits" you had started on. You pounded and pounded until you made enough
noise to be heard. You all have done major damage to innocent people!!!
People you accused of things the COURTS said they were innocent of and you still
do not STOP and admit you were wrong. You do not apologise for ANYTHING.
Still now, there are lies being told in whisper campaigns all over town.
Lies designed to affect the outcome of the election. LIES JERRY!!!!!
YOU AND YOUR BUDDIES ARE BUILDING NITRO"S FUTURE ON LIES!!!!!
Thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You and your buddies have done immeasurable damage to a town and it's PEOPLE!!
You, Karen and all the others involved owe the CITIZENS OF NITRO A HUGE APOLOGY!!!

That is how I see it, that is my opinion!!

[crystal dawn]

115. Errr.....just curious.....

But what the fuck is Jerry (skywv) still doing on the Democratic Underground??

He's a former right-wing radio host who has said more than once (IN PRINT) that he thinks liberals, gays, muslims, and blacks are the reason the world is bad. He should go back to his hole of a message board where his asskissers can buy his bullshit hook line and sinker.

[neverlander]

117. Uh, nothing to add, well done!

All I can do with that is agree with it.
It needs no additional comments! :applause:

[skywv]

118. Uh, SOMETHING to add,..

I'll tell you why: As long as my name appears here in public, (unlike the rest of you hiding in the shadows) I feel more of a right to post here than you should. After all.. MY names on the Marque right?

And as long as it is... I will be here to help you out whenever you need a little guidance. :)

[neverlander]

120. You conducting tours?

Guidance form you can only lead downward.

Anyone need an undergroung cave guide? wvsky is looking for a job.

[slyfox]

121. You have more of a RIGHT

Until you give the same opportunity to post on your board (those whose names are in the marguee) YOU HAVE NO MORE RIGHT THAN THE NEXT PERSON TO POST ANYWHERE.

You are a hypocrite Jerry Waters.

[skywv]

122. You have more of a RIGHT?

Of course! As is the heading of this topic.. my names on the marque! I don't see "Slyfox"es name up there do I? Think about this: My topic is #1 here on the forum. It has been here the longest and has popped to the top almost every day. I AM the man! Hahaha!:P

Now.. since you people love me so much as to keep me as an "important topic" for OVER a year now... not only am I flattered.. but INSIST on helping you keep me #1 here on the board! :)

[slyfox]

125. Again, Waters - Avoids The STATEMENT

Good try Waters, I realize your name is on the Marquee. My point was that you have several individuals whose names appear as you would say on the "Marquee" on your board and those individuals are not even allowed to respond.

As far as you, "being the MAN". in your own mind probably. But in reality you are an insecure LITTLE MAN who clearly has to OVERCOMPENSATE for the lack of something.

[neverlander]

127. Someone ought to tell Kent!

If Jer is "the MAN" someone ought to tell Carper tp give up his throne>

[neverlander]

123. SKYWV????

The reason you are not in the "shadows" with the rest of us is that Lasher called you out.

[slyfox]

126. Called Out For the Hypocrite he IS

Neverlander - he was called out and rightfully so, this man claims to be something he clearly is not.

[Hubert Flottz]

124. "what the fuck is Jerry (skywv) still doing on DU??"

I have been asking myself that very same question. And he's still here even after his sly, half-assed, semi-slick swipe at the Honorable Sen. Robert C. Byrd, upthread.

The poster should be banned for picking on a poor old guy like Bobby Byrd on this "Democratic" board, IMHO.

I hope as I read on downthread that this damned fool has earned his disruptor's grave marker, like all the other fleas and bloodsucking tics from the dork side, who LIE in the DU graveyard for demented dipshittish disruptors.

Ask yourself this question...How smart can a person be, who STILL, believes and trusts, George Bush or Dick Cheney and their STILL more than willing, enabler, John McCain?

[skywv]

128. What am I doing on DU? I was here long before you :)

Ask yourself this question...How smart can a person be, who STILL, believes and trusts, George Bush or Dick Cheney and their STILL more than willing, enabler, John McCain?

Oh.. PLEASE! You've not heard me support ANY of the people for almost 3 years. Fact is, they were the "hold your nose and vote"... vote... just like MOST of our pathetic candidates have been for a long time!

Here's one thing you STILL don't understand and apparently never will: I don't give a real rats ass WHO becomes President! It's too late to even WORRY about it now! From here on out (especially) it will be a race to the bottom, both morally and fiscally. There's not a damned thing I can do about it and so I don't even try. Fact is.. if you believe in the Bible (ohh... hope I don't get banned for bringing up that fantasy novel here) then you know that this world is going the exact way it's supposed to, and there's not a damned thing you or I can do to stop it. So I say... BRING IT ON! And don't worry about which crook or incompetent is going to be our next President, because it's all going to wind-up the same.

Now... can I have fun picking at this one or that? Sure! :) Because politics is SO laughable at this point that to take it seriously will only cause you to lose sleep and your nerves to become shot.

Live for the day I say! Eat... drink! Be merry! And try not to be so bitter towards people like me who really don't care anymore... :)

[crystal dawn]

129. oh puh-leeze

You can't even suck it up here and admit that the last 8 years of fiscal and moral degradation lies solely on the worst administration evah, can you?

And if you don't care, then you are part of the problem.

[skywv]

130. oh puh-leeze part two

I will agree that this administration SUCKS, but I stated that on the air a LONG time ago. I stated that the Republicans sucked and so did the Dems. Thats why I changed to Independent. And this isnt the ONLY administration that has sucked. Clinton didn't do anything but pass out the cake that Reagan left him. That made Clinton look great. But always remember that it's almost impossible for one administration to make a huge difference while they're in office. That often takes years, and that's where Clinton got lucky. Sometimes, it's all in the timing. But Bush was even WORSE than Clinton because he attempted to pander to damned near everyone. (except for the war). Yep...Bush will undoubtedly go down as the worst most embarrassing President in history. But he didn't do it all by himself. He surrounded himself with a bunch of dolts from BOTH sides.

[crystal dawn]

132. wtf jerry

Jerry wrote:

Clinton didn't do anything but pass out the cake that Reagan left him. That made Clinton look great. But always remember that it's almost impossible for one administration to make a huge difference while they're in office. That often takes years, and that's where Clinton got lucky.

Wtf?? Reagan left him a cake of DEFICIT and Clinton turned that into a SURPLUS!! Seriously Jerry, are you that delusional or do you make shit up on a whim? Show me WHERE and HOW dolling out huge tax breaks to the rich ever did this country any good! Clinton got lucky...give me a fucking break. If you had the least bit of understanding of economic processes and tax policies then you deserve a fucking ticker tate parade.

The above comment by you only reinforces the question -> Why the FUCK are you at DU? You are no Democrat, despite what you may have told people regarding your registration. You are no left-leaning independent. You are no moderate. You are no centrist. You are a radical right wing nut who supports ONLY Republican causes and politicians. I could care less if you "say" you are opposed to politicians of both sides. Your actions and words "say" otherwise, as you are constantly suckling at the Republican teet and bashing the "liberal" party. Remember, your basic belief is that this country is being brought down by liberals, gays, blacks, and muslims....nevermind facts that show that your beloved GOP is the cause of the downfall over the past 30 years. You are clinging to false beliefs based on fear, hatred, and possible self-loathing....which means, you belong at RedState or MichelleMalkin or some other wingnut haven. You know, the sites that you link to on your Heavy Drinkers board.

[Hubert Flottz]

135. Too much Reagan Cheese and Jim Jones Kool-aid made

Jerr a dull boy!

BTW...Welcome to DU fellow seekers of the facts!

You won't ever find any facts on Reich Wing Radio. Just some stale old made up "REALITY" like the stuff Bush dumps out for his faith based veggie drones to suck up.(BUShit) I'll bet the guy is a porta potty expert like the other freepers who drop in to fib, pester and whine.

[skywv]

136. wtf jerry... answer

I am not a Republican. I am a Conservative. The Republican tag was the closest thing to what I believed, but I NEVER voted a straight Republican ticket and never will. But before you criticize me, remember this: Most WV Democrats are CONSERVATIVE Democrats. THEY are the ones that pushed Bush into office and you know it. We have very few "radical Democrats" in WV. They too believe in GOD-GUNS. I know that's painful to read here in front of everyone, but it's the truth.

I myself don't join groups-mobs or organizations... period. Any name stuck to me is only because I didn't have a choice. And THAT'S why I went Independent. I NOW HAVE a choice.

I believe that BOTH parties have serious issues, and so I opted out so people like you COULDNT lay that crap on me. You have no idea of who I am. All you know is what I got paid to do... and the "fun" I have on my website. Someday you wont believe everything you read or hear.

[neverlander]

139. Are you telling us not to believe what we read......

is that what YOU write, or what someone else writes???

Opted out??????? More like wimped out!
Jer if you can not stand for what you believe in, and i THINK we can all tell what that is, the sit your ass down and shut the f*&k up. You still prove one valid point...you are a walking, talking Websters definition of Hypocrite!
Being a hypocrite is a choice like every other choice, you do it so well you should just admit that is what you are...Stand on the principles of it and be PROUD! :crazy:

[Lasher]

134. Now, Jerry.

If I could interrupt your misguided Saint Ronnie of Reagan worship for just a minute, please recall what I said in this message upthread. You are correct to note that the Republicans sucked, but I must say I am a little disappointed to see you claim that Democrats did too. We have just a few simple rules around here and you just sinned against one that I cherish.

But I've still got hope for you. I know you first started to see the light when Republicans put on the Terri Schiavo comedy show for their Religious Right suckers. Stick around and we'll help make a good Democrat of you yet.

[Hubert Flottz]

131. "fantasy novel"

Fear is your party's(GOPer's)only major trump card, always was, always will be. "If you don't do as I say the "DEVIL" will get yo ass!" Show me some proof...I won't take yours, or King George's, or King James's, or Jim Jones's, or even Porky Pig's, "WORD," for anything.

All of a sudden about every republican I know of, has switched to "INDY". Did you vote for Bush? Whatever your answer is it's probably a lie. You GOPers even try to fool yourselves.

The best you can do is blame shit on Bill Clinton(your modern day "Devil")...just like your goofy assed, primate looking/acting "LEADER" does all the time.

REMEMBER that, GAWD, through Jerry and Pat, told you and all your dumb-assed fellow fools to vote for that king of clowns in the WH right now. Or could that have been the "Old Scratch" just bull-shitting you damned fools?

The founders knew The USA couldn't work if you failed to separate Church and state, but you "all-knowing" fools thought that you were smarter than the founding fathers were. You've failed to trust in the wisdom of the people who REALLY did bleed and some even died, for you and me!

Bill Clinton didn't SELECT George Bush and neither did the American people...Reagan and Bush I's 5 supreme court appointees did that. You did help those two crooks get close enough to steal it though.

Think about how you voted the next time you fill up...Gawd gave you a brain...use it sometime.

And BTW...I doubt that you've been around longer than I have. Just another little fairy story of yours that you have zero proof of Mr. fantasy dude.

[skywv]

137. "fantasy novel"... Very Bitter?

As I posted on another reply: Never forget that WV is made up of mostly "God fearing gun toting" people who VOTED FOR BUSH and helped put him in office. I know that's painful, but it's a fact as you know. So it seems that everyone felt they had to hold their nose and vote. Sorry about that.

[Hubert Flottz]

138. Have some more Kool-Aid Jerry...

In your heart you know you voted wrong.

I have NEVER voted for a republican in my life, except for maybe one or two, who lied and swore they were democrats, because they knew that a GOPer didn't stand a chance here anymore.

Then there was the voting machines that Karl and the Diebold guy had rigged.

[Hubert Flottz]

143. "Bitter?"

No, I raced past "bitter" on 12/12/2000! And you helped!

How does it feel Jerry to know that you had a willing hand in the bringing down and trampling of the American dream? The destruction of trust in America? The trashing of our good name around the planet? Torture? Government spying on the American people? Crashing the economy? Over 4,000 American soldiers dead...placed in harms way over a pack of lies? Gasoline $3.50 a gallon and climbing? Trillions of Dollars WASTED? Government and rogue outfits like EXXON and KB&R growing BIGGER and more out of control every day? Bailing out billionaires instead of families who are losing everything they own to loan sharks and thieves? The people who pulled off 9/11 and the anthrax murders and the disruption of the postal system still roaming the planet as free as a bird? The unforgettable picture in my mind of bloated floating bodies in the filthy polluted flood water of New Orleans as George Bush and John McCain partied, laughed it up and ate birthday cake at a California country club?

Why would anyone be "bitter?" Well Jerry...because maybe they cared about the country that they will some day leave behind for their children and their children's children. My American Dream always has been to hand over a better America to the generations to come, than the America that my parents handed over to me. An America that the coming generations can take pride in.

What hope does a guy like you have to hold out to the generations to come. Sounds like the best advice you have to offer is: "GIVE UP...ABANDON ALL HOPE...YOU CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING...GOD WANTS TO KILL OFF AMERICA!" I pity Jerry's kids...I pity all our kids...

No Jerry, your kind's kind of IGNORANCE, BITTERNESS, HATRED, GREED, BLIND FAITH IN FOOLS AND LIARS, LACK OF PRIDE and HYPOCRISY have just about sank the American dream forever.

You voted for this American Nightmare now in progress Jerry...I didn't...my vote was thrown in the trash by the SCOTUS on 12/12/2000. The day the people in "WE THE PEOPLE" stopped counting.

[slyfox]

133. Jerry Waters talking about "Morality????" -- What a Joke

What is it about radio talk show hosts (well Waters is a FORMER) talking about the morals of anyone on this planet.

Mike Agnello who was/is WCHS 580 afternoon host of 58 LIVE is another. He talks about family values, the sanctity of marriage - refers to his live in partner (R.H.) as his wife. When in fact they have never married. He met his wife through his former church and his partner/wife (R.H.) was married to the pastor of the church. And why hasn't he and his long time love ever been married -MONEY. If they marry they lose her former husbands MONEY.... Talk about morality and the sanctity of MARRIAGE.. Agnello like Waters is a hypocrite.

[formerfed]

140. Damm This Is A Tough Crowd

Damm This Is A Tough Crowd... glad Im not this Jerry Waters dude.

:nuke:

[neverlander]

141. Too bad, so sad. Buh bye!

First the radio show and NOW the DU!
It truly is buh bye!

[Lasher]

142. Looks like Jerry got tombstoned.

Too bad, that was fun.

[Hubert Flottz]

144. We need to keep Jerry's thread going forever!

Now that Jrry can't respond he can get a taste of how everybody he cut off on his goofy show felt.

How's it feel Jerry? Talk all you want because...WE CAN'T HEAR YOU!

DU let you blather on and on...you would never had given anyone a chance like that...

And BTW...In 2000 a loaf of bread was about $.85 today it's about $2.50...that is just a tiny example of "THE DIFFERENCE" between an America led by a democrat in 2000 and an America being misled by the GOP in 2008.

[Lasher]

145. Yeah, how's that trickle-down scam workin' for ya?

Have you noticed what gas prices have done since January 22, 2001? The deficit? Median family income?

[Hubert Flottz]

146. Another BIG difference between democrats and republicans...

I don't ever remember having to feel so bad and so guilty about the way I voted or about the folks I voted for, that I had to claim I was an "INDY" instead of a democrat.

EVERYBODY that I know, who voted for Bush, now swears...just like Jerry does, that they are no longer registered GOPers.

McCain must be getting all his campaign cash from EXXON or A T Massey Coal or J P Morgan or Halliburton. Maybe Kenny Boy died and left McCain that wad?

[Lasher]

147. All the Republicans I know now say they're independent or libertarian

And they try to make that retroactive by claiming they've always been that way. One guy just told me it doesn't mean a thing that he's always been registered as a Republican. Hey, he voted for Ross Perot once and that proves he's an independent free thinker.

If I had been stupid enough to have voted for our Loser in Chief twice, I would be trying to lie my way out of it too. Wonder what the chances are he's going to vote for McSame?

How do you like it now, Jerry? Now somebody else controls the cutoff switch. Buh bye again!

[crystal dawn]

148. Karma is a bitch!

But he does still have his faithful suckers followers keepin' it real at the Heavy Drinkers: http://heavyhitters.freeforums.org/banned-from-the-democratic-underground-hahahaha-t1767.html

From what I get out of the topic, open-minded leeburals are really close-minded meanies. Or rather, leeburals have to be completely open-minded with no sets of rules whatsoever because they allow blacks, muslims, and gays to overtake the world. hahaha!

Hey, let's talk some more shit about Jerry...whaddaya say?!?

[Hubert Flottz]

150. Those GOPer scumbags are ALL the same...

They can dish it out forever, but they cry like a little baby when a tiny bit of the stale crap they hand out bounces back in their faces.

Preach on and on to your Heavy Handed Hitlers Jerry...all five of them. The air around here is smellin' better already...Ahhhhhhhhhh!

If they wanna' fight they should go join the troops in Iraq. I heard that the Army was taking anything they can get now days. There'd be old tough guy Jerry a steady Gig.

[neverlander]

162. Still allowing the trashing of Nitro

What is it with this guy and Nitro?
Why does he continue to allow that thread to run?

He says he has nothing in it, but he continually allows Karen and her bunch of nincompoops to trash the town.
If you do not support her and her fellow nincompoop and drunk Karnes you get blasted. He apparently wants a dog in this fight, and he is liable to get one.

[crystal dawn]

149. If Jerry didn't vote for Bush

then bears don't shit in the woods! <----ooo filthy language alert!


Jerrie said on the Heavy Drinkers:

I've been answering some of my detractors ( mostly those banned from here, and a few others) after being vilified and crucified with the filthiest of language. You'd think I was Hitler himself the way they talk about me!

Nah, not Hilter. More along the lines of the stoopid variety, like your boy George. lol

[Hubert Flottz]

151. In the words of old Filthy Mouthed Dick Cheney...

"Go F??k yourself" Jerry!

[Hubert Flottz]

153. Hefty Haters maybe!

Why do those freeper types hate freedom, liberty and democracy? Why do they hate to pay their fair share of the taxes that it takes to keep the country from turning into one huge festering, polluted, pot-hole. Even with an elective war going on and the troops in harm's way, the fools like Jerry's Fans and their hero McCain, STILL want to cut taxes. The GOPers want to "drown our government in a bath tub"...well W and his drone like crony corps have just about drowned us in debt and hard times as far as the eye can see.

Jerry is as big a liar as George, methinks...he even fools himself.

[formerfed]

152. Like I said - Tuff Crowd

Like I said - Tuff Crowd............

:hi:

[crystal dawn]

154. Jerry, is that you?

:hi: :dunce:

[formerfed]

156. No

No its not Jerry.... hey, I got my own problems, dont need his too.

:shrug:

[Lasher]

157. You're right about the tough crowd.

Maybe you don't know the history. Jerry's pretty much getting what he's dished out to others in the past. I personally prefer to discuss issues and I've mostly turned the page on Jerry.

[formerfed]

158. That Answers That

That Answers That

[crystal dawn]

155. Since Jerry Reads the DU!

And feels like he needs his posse support, he has to start new topics about it at the Heavy Drinkers. On one hand he's making fun of the DU - and failing poorly at it - for talking about him....all the while he's talking about US at his lame board. :rofl:

Jerrie typed:

You DU people really crack me up: You take everything MUCH too seriously.. you become mean and nasty and bitter over the DUMBEST things, and many of you must not have a job, otherwise you'd not be able to spend so much time on the Net. ( Course, you MAY work for the State, which in case you can spend all DAY on DU. )

Oh, you mean as opposed to your 5 jobless heavy drinkers who seem to post at all hours of the day. Do you have a job or are you conveniently retired? Do you get an unemployment check or workers' compensation? :rofl: Talk about the kettle calling the pot black - yet again.

Just so you know, most of us liberals have jobs, pay taxes, and have never taken a free handout... unlike some hypocrites.

The Democratic Underground has written rules that are applied ACROSS THE BOARD. The Heavy Drinkers have no written rules and are applied to liberals only. But I digress....

btw, most DUers (or people in general) don't read your message board. Only losers like me who luv looking for good nutjob material to satarize! :smoke:

[ivan von bewski]

159. RE: Since Jerry Reads the DU!

I am a member of the board and I frequently, ok all the time, disagree with them why did they ban you?

[crystal dawn]

160. why did the heavy drinkers ban me?

or why did the DU ban Jer?

[Hubert Flottz]

161. Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

The air seems so much sweeter around here without all that funky old Reich Wanker pollution.

I guess Jerry will be voting for Ralph Nader along with all his other "INDY" friends.

Why does Jerry hate our CIC?