Why bother with a recall in Wisconsin?

[AtLiberty]

Before you make any remarks, please read my post carefully.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x517359

[GillesDeleuze]

1. before you remarked, you should understand wisconsin voting

systems a little better.


You got a problem, bring evidence to the GAB

[Goblinmonger]

2. That's not how we vote in Wisconsin.

I put a mark with a marker on a piece of paper that is then optically scanned. There is a paper trail. I have no doubt that Walker won the election given what I know about the people that live in this state with me. I also think they have buyer's remorse.

[Scuba]

3. Call me old fashioned, but I don't trust the scanners. Hand counts would be better.

[Goblinmonger]

6. Our scanners have been shown to be pretty darn accurate

when there have been hand counts on recounts.

If we just did a hand count, it would take a lot longer. At least in our system there is a paper trail of the votes.

[Scuba]

7. Good to hear; I don't have access to that.

[AtLiberty]

4. Proof?

Start by reading everything posted on DU's "Election Reform" over the past 6 1/2 years.

Then read everything posted on BradBlog about electronic voting.

OR, find out the voting machines used in your county, then do a search on them. For example: Diebold Problems . See what pops up.

(By the way, these voting system companies frequently change the names of voting systems.)

[GillesDeleuze]

5. lol

find me a diebold machine in wisconsin that isn't an ATM

[mojowork_n]

8. Ummmm.

D'uhhhh.

That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that the company had to re-form and re-name itself, after the hacking vulnerabilities were proven?

http://motherjones.com/politics/2004/03/diebolds-political-machine

It's standard procedure.

What was Air Tran Airways called before the Florida crash of it's corporate predecessor forced a name change?

[GillesDeleuze]

10. THATS NOT HOW WISCONSIN BALLOTS ARE COUNTED.

Try Ohio.

[Pharaoh]

9. We have a paper trail

not strictly electronic, we have paper to recount if necessary.