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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 06:39 AM
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Overheard 2 Repubs speaking last night
They were naming off Democratic Senators that recall petitions are being circulated for...

They were claiming "victory" in getting Holperin recalled. I just sat between them and grinned...it drove them crazy..the said "He knows something, what do you know? What have you heard?" I said, "I'm just an ignorant Democrat, I obviously don't know anything." They shut up.

Did the Utah group get enough sigs for Holperin?

I haven't heard anything..
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 06:54 AM
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1. They made this claim on Saturday
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/article/20110419/WDH0101/104190458/Group-Holperin-recall-go?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|FRONTPAGE

The Holperin recall committee was required to gather at least 15,960 signatures of people living within Holperin's district. Bob Rajek, chairman of the Republican Party of Lincoln County, said Monday that he believed more than 20,000 signatures had been collected but did not have an exact number.

Kim Simac, organizer of the recall committee, did not return a call seeking comment Monday.

Simac first announced the group's plans Saturday during a tea party rally in Madison.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 07:54 AM
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2. Thanks for the link
Repubs were basing their opinion of the "fact" that Holperin was/is "advertising like crazy".

This Utah group bothers me. They're pretty secretive and knowing that they are involved with Americans Against Immigration Amnesty and they share the same "Executive Director" but there is almost no information about where they are getting their funding. They brought people into the state to collect sigs locally but I don't know any more about it than that. What bothers me is that they may have "national" connections and have a much more sophisticated strategy than we think they do...Paranoia in politics is usually a good thing.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 04:52 PM
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8. Doesn't seem right that people outside the state can be involved like this
dirty gop.
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 10:32 AM
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3. The Utah group may not be doing so well
Their name is American Recall Coalition. Holperin isn't one of theirs, nor is Hansen (they never got the paperwork straightened out). It seems they still have some administrative details missing for some of the other six. Of their original efforts to file, only one was done right. http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/recall

As far as "advertising," Alberta Darling sent us a glossy missive over the weekend to let us know she's standing up for the taxpayers, and she opened a campaign office a few weeks ago. She knows it's coming.

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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 10:33 AM
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4. Show me the sigs.
These claims keep popping up, but so far we haven't seen any of them hauling petitions down to the GAB.

Time to put up, or STFU. Pukes.
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 01:47 PM
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5. Well, they were unfortunately stolen in Green Bay
I'll bet they had enough to recall and more. (Obligatory :sarcasm: )
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 03:27 PM
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6. hehehehehe
Just noticed on the website for the "sponsor" behind the Lassa recall....he's advertising EXTENDED OFFICE HOURS for your convenience...to come to his office to sign Lassa recall petitions...no newspaper ads, just blog posts ...facebook sites for UWSP Young Republicans, Recall Lassa, his, and support Scott Walker...

hmmmmmmmmm.....
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 03:53 PM
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7. Oh, yeah. Well oiled machine...
LOL!

What are they spending all that Koch money on anyway?
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 04:58 PM
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9. well, how many might they have now
that's Holperin, Wirch, Lassa ?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 06:50 PM
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10. Remember who votes.
They can get all the damn signatures they want. I don't think any Democratic voters are going to forget our Senators standing up for us when it comes time for us to stand up for them.

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:04 PM
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12. I say that all the time.
When a senate district has about 180,000 people in it, getting 20,000 sigs in 60 days isn't insurmountable even in the most challenging districts. It's whether or not you can beat them in the election.

Our Dems have a lot of people on their side that weren't there last time. I'm betting that though they'll have to run a good campaign, they'll all come out of it victors if we join in the fight.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:35 AM
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11. The Holperin Recall group
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 09:37 AM by ewagner
claims to be heading to Madison today to file recall papers against Jim Holperin.

btw: Just noticed that the head of the Holperin Recall committee was Kim Sumac. She was apparently a speaker at the Madison Tea Party Rally and is the current "darling" of the tea-drinking set locally.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:24 AM
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13. Dem group called my house tonight while I was at work (don't know particulars)
but said they need help with signature verification as the Cons are ready to file recalls against 3 Dem Senators. They did tell my husband that it was an out of state group. Somehow, that just doesn't even seem legal. Anyway, I'll do what I can. I suspect they are up to no good as usual. Working Wisconsinites pull signatures on our own time and dime for weeks and they get paid out-of-staters to come up with sigs. Disingenuous at best.

Anyway, I'll believe it when I see it.
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:16 PM
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14. Look for many of their signatures to be invalid
The out-of-staters don't care about anything but their paycheck and will be gone before the petitions are challenged. The volunteers on our side put in more loving care on their work. The difference will show.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:47 PM
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15. I've always said that about you, e.
"He's just an ignorant Democrat, he obviously doesn't know anything."

:hide:

Luv ya, e!

NGU.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:48 PM
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16. By the way, I just heard a caller on Ed Schultz say Rape-Publicans were offering...
..."Shots for Signatures" at area taverns.

NGU.

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AleksS Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 01:22 PM
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17. That might be worth looking into
That might be worth looking into. I seem to remember that it wasn't legal to offer anything of value in exchange for a signature. You can pay the person collecting signatures, but you canot pay a person to sign. (Kind of like when registering people to vote--you can pay a person to register other people, but you can't pay a person to register himself.)
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 05:26 PM
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18. Just learned
that the organizer of the Lassa recall group (actually "American Patriots Recall Coalition" of Utah's front man) will be on Wausau Radio 550 tomorrow morning around 8:30...want to hear the lies and distortions? tune in
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