CSIS and the Reform Party...are there secret files on Harper?

[shockedcanadian]

In my ongoing battle to expose the intelligence community in Canada (now becoming a legal challenge) and how much they illegally and immoraly misrepresent and distort the truth and destroy citizens lives, here is a link I saved from Feb. Our current PM was almost certainly a target of CSIS during his founding of the Reform Party. Regardless of your opinion of him or the former party as I know alot of you are not right leaning, this is not the crux of the argument, what is important is ones right to engage in the democractic institutions in this country without interference; something I am sure that all of us on this forum agree.

What is key is this line which I cut out for effect:

-given Harper's early involvement in the Reform Party and claims from early party members that the spy service tried to infiltrate and discredit them-

Discredit, misrepresent, entrap, how about outright lie; this is the methodology used by CSIS and the RCMP. It is meant to keep agents busy, to justify their existence and to feed their coffers with more funding and resources. These are tactics used by nations that Canadian and Allied soldiers fought and died to defeat, and here they are operating in the same manner in Canada. Ironic, frightening or both? Once you are a member of a party and alter their direction than YOU are the threat, not the party itself, but because it is done in strict secrecy the public never knows about it, I think this is going to change.

Coincidentally, this was at about the same time that I was originally targetted as an OAC student (since eliminated, HS goes to grade 12 now in Ontario). I took a politics class and had a weak interest in Preston Manning and some of his thoughts on changes to Canada that made sense to me, especially considering my situation at the time. The spooks turned this slight interest into me being a full blown right-wing radical, racist, anti-semite, Hitler worshipper. Outright lies and fabrications.

It is now nearly 20 years after the fact and after I was made aware of what was going on I complained to the SIRC and it became worse. Another startling fact if you try to have the SIRC investigate CSIS, which is supposedly their mandate, you will receive their usual response: “it is not in our juristiction”. This is a way for them to wash their hands of it and protect CSIS, in my opinion they appear to be nothing more than an extension of CSIS; a shill organization meant to provide legitimacy to the complaint process, when all it really does is have a suspect expose what they know. Even a former CSIS contractor, John Farrell presented them with typed up facts, complete with the CSIS logo and all, and he received the same response, but I digress.

I read elsewhere when Harper was presented with the idea that he had been a file with CSIS that he shrugged his shoulders and said he didn`t know because he never requested such information from them. He might feel content as he has overcome any accusations to reach his life long dream of leading Canada, but what about the common person whos lives have been ruined by this Neo-Stasi organization then and now?

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/02/20/17348231.html


OTTAWA - Does CSIS have a file on Prime Minister Stephen Harper?

Two former CSIS agents say it's possible given Harper's early involvement in the Reform Party and claims from early party members that the spy service tried to infiltrate and discredit them "When the Reform Party arrived on the picture it was fairly new, fairly shocking for Eastern Canada in particular because we didn't understand that movement coming from the West," said former intelligence officer Michel Juneau-Katsuya.

Juneau-Katsuya and David Harris, a lawyer and former chief of strategic planning said it would have been prudent for CSIS to look into who the people forming the Reform Party were.

"It would depend on associates, public statements and other such things," Harris said.

Neither man could confirm a file but Harris said if there is a dossier on Harper it wouldn't be the same type that the RCMP kept on Tommy Douglas.

"There was much more done under the RCMP in a speculative way." CSIS took over from the RCMP as Canada's intelligence service in 1984. A few years later they dropped the 'subversive' activities unit that had existed under the Mounties and adopted new rules on spying on Canadians. Those rules include restrictions on spying on groups, such as political parties, and active politicians.

In 1994 it was reported that CSIS had looked into sources of funding for Reform Party leader Preston Manning but an examination by SIRC, the Security Intelligence Review Committee, a civilian oversight body, cleared CSIS of spying on Reform.

Both former CSIS agents told QMI Agency that finding a politician in the files of CSIS now would be very different that the days when the Mounties stalked Douglas.

"Inevitably it happens that politicians come on the radar because of the people they meet with or their activities," said Juneau-Katsuya.

"We know that high-level penetration is the goal of many of our adversaries," said Harris.

Last summer, current CSIS boss Richard Fadden caused a stir when he said in an interview that some provincial and municipal politicians in Canada are, ³under at least the general influence of a foreign government."

Opposition politicians cried foul over Fadden's comments and demanded his resignation. Some even called his comments racist but the two former spies QMI Agency contacted both said politicians today need to wary of foreign governments trying to influence them.

"Influence is easier than control," said Juneau-Katsuya.