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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-04-09 10:45 PM
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Zanu Labour and Foreign Policy. So Sad.
Edited on Sat Jul-04-09 10:45 PM by TheBigotBasher

We believe that tackling the challenges of poverty, disease and hunger and tackling threats to our security from terrorism and WMD are not alternatives; to effectively tackle terrorism, it is vital that we address the conditions where terrorism can thrive. We also believe that Britain’s international role must be an extension of our vision at home – to build a fairer world, in which opportunity and wealth are shared by all. The way we engage with the rest of the world is rooted in our core values of equality and social justice as we seek to help alleviate poverty, protect human rights, build peace and promote democracy. With Labour, Britain is a force for good in the world, working for the promotion of peace, justice and security.


This is the the official policy of Gordon Brown and his Labour Party. If it were not for the associations with the NeoCons of the US, the illegal war in Iraq and the hundreds of thousands that died as a result it would be laughable. At least New Labour have dropped the pretence of having an ethical Foreign policy.

http://www.labour.org.uk/labours_international_policies

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-06-09 08:03 AM
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1. New Labour are basically Old Tories - but to compare them with Zanu???
That's totally over-the-top?

Anyway, what do you want to happen in the election? The real Tories will be even worse. LibDem are in most cases preferable, but they haven't a hope of winning.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-06-09 11:07 AM
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2. Labour to come third
Unlikely to happen but my preference. I think that they may find themselves third in voter share if they carry on the way they are but not in seats. For the new Brent Central constituency it is my guess that Labour has already given the seat away to Sarah Teather.

I have real doubts that anyone can be worse than Gordon Brown.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-06-09 11:51 AM
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3. I really meant, who should come first?
Or first and second if you prefer a hung-parliament and a coalition


'I have real doubts that anyone can be worse than Gordon Brown'

Oh, the Tories easily could. Remember Thatcher? Even if Cameron himself is not a Thatcherite, he will probably end up as a puppet, with the Thatcherites pulling the strings.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-06-09 12:03 PM
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4. Even she had a better record on social housing than Brown.
If there is going to be privatisation I'd much prefer the "popular privatisation" of the 80's than the gift for Party donors known as PFI.

Far more drastic cuts applied to Social Security benefits under Labour than under the Tories.

Home Secretaries that made David Waddington (remember him) look Liberal (which at least Hurd was).

Labour used its majority to out Thatcher Thatcher.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-06-09 01:51 PM
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5. I will give you a further example
Social Security for single people.

In 1997 the applicable amount for single people was £49.15, already too low to live on. In 2009 it is £64.30. Not exactly a huge rise over 12 years and in now way suitable to live on.
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:53 PM
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9. Nothing excites me more than a Labour bloodbath...
Those fucks must pay for what they did to the people of the United Kingdom and to the socialists and progressives within their own ranks.
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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 04:35 AM
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6. "He only does it to annoy ...
... because he knows it teases"

The Skin
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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 05:31 PM
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7. Now you really are in good company, BB!
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 05:32 PM by non sociopath skin
http://freebritannia.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=12521 :evilgrin:

... or has our old buddy been looking in longingly on The Board He Loves To Hate? :evilgrin:

The Skin
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:09 PM
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8. No idea who they are
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 06:09 PM by TheBigotBasher
They seem nearly as dead as Labourlist and LabourHome, I did have funposting there

http://www.labourhome.org/forum/?p=6368
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