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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 03:43 PM
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Don't know about you guys but this scares the shit out of me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jul/12/radical-nhs-reform-plans

How many people - even people who voted Tory, for God's sake - knew they were voting for this high-risk, untested, dogma-driven shite?

They are gambling with lives as well as livelihoods and the LibDems just lie there waiting to have their tummies tickled.

O tempora. O mores. O fuck.

The Skin
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 04:46 PM
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1. Well if the fiasco over schools building fiasco is any indication
then this will probably blow up in the governments face

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/jul/12/mps-round-on-gove

It seem that ministers have been so keen to wield the axe they did not bother to wait for the spending review to be completed

Interesting that the resistance is coming from across the political spectrum not just the Labour back benches.

Spoke to some Tory local councillors over the week end who surprisingly are not entirely happy about some of the plans that are reaching their ears. Of course when TSHTF they know that their constituents will be ringing them up morning, noon and night to moan about what is going on. Unlike MPs they have to live and work amongst their voters every day of the week so it is going to make their life a misery. In fact they can not even rely on a swing to the Lib Dems at the next set of polls in 2012 to put them out of their misery since they are likely to be even more unpopular.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 06:52 PM
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2. Yes,
I think that there will be a LOT of objections from voters, councillors (who will have to face the voters far sooner than MPs will unless the coalition collapses quite quickly), and MPs - Labour MPs and Tory and LibDem backbenchers- who will be receiving strong protests from the voters (even Tories: 'yes, yes, the free market is a great thing in principle, but Not In My Back Yard'). I suspect that it won't be possible to put through the whole package. I hope, anyway.

But I don't know what Tory voters expected if they voted for a government likely to include Andrew Lansley as Health Secretary. He's the one who said that the recession might have the advantage of getting people to spend more time with their families! I wish HE would soon get a chance to spend more time with his family.

As for Michael Gove, he has already achieved the almost impossible feat of making Ruth Kelly look competent by comparison.


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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 06:24 PM
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3. Agree entirely about Gove
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 06:39 PM by fedsron2us
Any idiot can cut public spending and he is the proof that being an imbecile is no barrier to high office.

Many Tory Councils suffered from Labours distribution of the rate support grant and were hoping for some financial payback when their own party got to power. They are deeply disillusioned that they are now going to be even worse off than before. This is going to cause Cameron a lot of problems further down the road.

I think the Tories may get their way and see the 'State' collapse but not quite in the way they imagine.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 05:41 AM
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4. It's almost as if ...
... they've realised that the coalition is doomed so they're trying to
push through as many radical sell-offs & f*ck-ups as they can before
they get kicked out - trying to out-Maggie the previous cycles of
Tory governments (Thatcher, Major, Blair & Brown) in the brief window
of opportunity that they've been granted.

:grr:
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