I've always found Jack Straw stomach-churning ...

[non sociopath skin]

... but this is the first time he's actually made me throw up.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/08/jack-straw-white-girls-easy-meat

Populist dog-whistling at its cheapest and nastiest. Repulsive.

The Skin

[T_i_B]

1. Seems like Jack Straw is chasing the EDL vote.

Labour ain't going to win re-election acting like that.

[Hopeless Romantic]

2. Not wishing to defend Straw but he is not the only one saying this

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim youth organisation, became the first community leader to speak out in a BBC interview two years ago.

He is not afraid of raising the issue.

"Although there have been some cases of white men being involved in this sexual exploitation of young girls, most of the perpetrators are Muslim.

"There are some Muslims who think that as long as these sex gangs aren't targeting their own sisters and daughters the issue doesn't affect them... but the vast majority of Muslims find these actions abhorrent and disgusting," he said.

He stresses these are not religiously-motivated offences but crimes carried out by men for "their own depraved sexual gratification".

"These people think that white girls have fewer morals and are less valuable than our girls."

Another commentator, Manzoor Moghul, chairman of the Muslim Forum, agrees.

"Offenders are under the misapprehension white girls are easy prey. The way they dress, their culture, makes them easy pickings," he said.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12140641

[non sociopath skin]

3. With respect, HR, that does sound a leeetle like a defence ...

The Skin

[Hopeless Romantic]

5. how so?

I'm not saying he was right to say this, just that he's not the only one

[fedsron2us]

4. There are no cultural and religious excuses for child abuse or rape

Surely, you can not be excusing what happened in Derby

[Hopeless Romantic]

6. Agreed

[non sociopath skin]

7. Of course not. Whatever makes you think that?

But IMHO Straw's comments were ill-advised and opportunist.

Of course, they will be wholeheartedly welcomed in some circles ....

The Skin

[LeftishBrit]

9. Of course not - the perps deserve every bit of their sentences

But the way Straw is spinning it, he's making it sound as though Pakistanis in general are out trolling for white girls. This is particularly dangerous, because it feeds into certain stereotypes that racists have already about 'the others' being a sexual threat to their womenfolk.

There are pimps and rapists in all groups.

[Jeneral2885]

8. well

at least he's no longer on the front bench

[LeftishBrit]

10. True - but the Tories as a group are much worse

(though Ken Clarke as an individual may not be quite as bad - not that I'd be keen to vote for either of them.)

But a front bench that includes Cameron, Osborne, Osborne's treacherous side-kick Alexander, Lansley, Gove, Pickles and the unutterably awful Duncan-Smith is most depressing!

[Dutch]

11. I find it stomach churning when people connive at rape and child abuse

because of their own politically correct, phony-progressive obsessions, and try to shout down people who actually do stick their necks out to speak out about it.

Denial and self-delusion is fine- until young girls have to start being abused to uphold your right to maintain it. Repulsive doesn't even begin to describe that.

[LeftishBrit]

12. Who is conniving at rape and child abuse?

No one is saying that the crooks who do this don't deserve to be punished severely.

Somehow, the view 'People should not go into a witch-hunt against Pakistanis as a group because of particular evil people who happen to be Pakistani' seems to be getting transformed into 'If a Pakistani does evil things, we should excuse it on some sort of politically correct multicultural basis' - NO ONE is promoting the latter view at all!

[non sociopath skin]

13. Thank you. LB.

I don't think it's you or I who has a dangerous subconscious agenda here.

BTW, can we avoid the expression "politically correct" - a cynical construct by the right to justify the propogation of their own WASP prejudices.

The Skin

[Jeneral2885]

14. and he's just

added fuel to Nick Griffin's ideas.