David Cameron tells Muslim Britain: stop tolerating extremists

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David Cameron will today signal a sea-change in the government fight against home-grown terrorism, saying the state must confront, and not consort with, the non-violent Muslim groups that are ambiguous about British values such as equality between sexes, democracy and integration.

To belong in Britain is to believe in these values, he will say. Claiming the previous government had been the victim of fear and muddled thinking by backing a state-sponsored form of multiculturalism, the prime minister will state that his government "will no longer fund or share platforms with organisations that, while non-violent, are certainly in some cases part of the problem".

In a major speech to a security conference in Munich, he will demand: "We need a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and much more active, muscular liberalism."

He will say that "some organisations that seek to present themselves as a gateway to the Muslim community are showered with public money while doing little to combat extremism. This is like turning to a rightwing fascist party to fight a violent white supremacist movement."

Full story: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/05/david-cameron-muslim-extremism

[Hopeless Romantic]

1. Send em all back...

to the home counties!

Tory Scum! Off our streets! :evilgrin:

[LeftishBrit]

2. So they should - and so should everyone else!

If David Cameron truly 'stopped tolerating extremists' and demanded respect for 'equality of the sexes' from all - he would lose quite a lot of Tory votes, and a significant number of Tory MPs.

To be grudgingly fair on Cameron, he does not seem to have, or like, extreme social conservative views himself (as opposed to extreme economic conservative views, which he sadly does). But when has he ever denounced such extremists as Melanie Phillips, Richard Littlejohn or Ed West? Or such an extremist group as the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children - not only anti-abortion but extreme religious-right all round; just take a look at their blog? Ironically, their social views are very similar to those of the most socially conservative British Muslims.

ETA:

See this from 2005, where six Tory MPs explicitly endorsed conservative Muslim social views and condemned 'decadent' social liberalism in Britain.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4141294.stm

Every single one of the signatories is still an MP. David Burrowes is Chair of the Conservative Christian Fellowship. While Cameron does not endorse their extremism, he has certainly never denounced it either!

[LeftishBrit]

3. When will Cameron explicitly denounce this extremist?

http://blackchristiannews.com/news/2009/12/ugandan-church-faces-totalitarian-liberal-activism.html

'Ugandan Church faces Totalitarian Liberal Activism...



Rturning to Uganda, the situation is much the same. Westerners are radicalizing gay Ugandans and Ugandan culture, and Ugandan parents are worried about their children. The Archbishop of Uganda spoke for them when he warned that ""I am appalled to learn that the rumours we have heard for a long time about homosexual recruiting in our schools and amongst our youth are true.

For these families, as for others in traditional Asian and African societies, traditional family life and customs are not just 'traditional' but sacred. Minimizing or replacing them is a violation of the sacred. When such attempts are being engineered by powerful forces from outside, in ways that are reminiscent of colonial powers imposing their agendas, traditional societies feel they must resort to legislation to protect their sacred traditions, particularly those to do with the family.

How can the church stand with traditional Ugandans while it also promotes a modern democratic society which has an important place for individual rights? How can the church draw back from the excesses of the West where the primary sacred value is in the individual's right to choose and express his or her choice publicly and traditional forms of family life sanctioned by religion are not sacred, only those sanctioned by secular law?...

There are many in England who are tut-tutting about this issue in Uganda. But what would they say to these fearful parents? Moreover, what have they done to support the black Christians in this country who are victimized and marginalized when they refuse to register same-sex civil partnerships or counsel the "marriage' problems of those in same-sex relationships? Are they aware of the massive social engineering project presently being foisted on this country which is stripping heteronormativity from the culture and re-writing its history (e.g. like Jesus, Churchill was gay), and if so, what are they doing about it?

SOURCE: Virtue Online
Chris Sugden | Evangelicals Now'




Chris Sugden is not just some nutty RW blogger. He is the executive secretary of the very misleadingly named Anglican Mainstream and director of academic affairs of the Oxford Centre for Mission Studies (which is rather too close to my doorstep for comfort!) He was, for a while, a member of the General Synod of the Church of England, though he fortunately lost his bid for re-election in 2010. Fortunately, his views are *not* mainstream in the C of E, and he is a rebel - but he has influence. And he is among those who might be said to share having David Kato's blood on their hands.

I am waiting for Cameron's official denunciation.

[non sociopath skin]

4. A timely "dog whistle" to the supporters of today's Neo-Nazi rally in Luton

... just to let them know that the PM is with them in spirit.

Meanwhile, I presume the Lib Dems will do the usual and nod in agreement.

The Skin

[non sociopath skin]

5. Yup.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/05/david-cameron-speech-criticised-edl

The Skin