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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 07:42 PM
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Labour liars and the dreadful state of british injustice
After reading this article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/prisons/story/0,7369,1511721,00.html

I am completely disgusted with blair. This is over the top beyond
comprehension, really he is a cynical criminal shit who has screwed over
a whole class of people in the UK and he should be taken to prison
for being a war criminal and a dreadful tory backbiting scumbag.

and he wonders why nobody has any respect.... what an ass.

Please excuse my angry language, but the article explains all. It is
long, but tremendously sad; filled with the cynicism that has made
this labour government nothing but a huge letdown.

:-(
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:09 PM
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1. Sounds All Too Familiar....
What kind of help do you think is ever offered here in Amerika??? Hell, we don't even have National Health Care. And as the saying goes, lock 'em up and throw away the key!! I've watched far too many programs on A&E where they go into prisons and talk with prisoners.

Most say that BECAUSE of the treatment they received in prison all they want to do if they get out is to "make someone pay"! Granted there ARE those who need to be in prison and probably need to stay there, but far too many are a rubber stamp of the man you mentioned. And what's more, far too many are given extensive prison time for simple drug offenses. And try to get any help with this one!!! I can understand when a criminal is "dealing" big time that something DOES need to be done, but when you get a life sentence for having an ounce of pot, well what can I say???

Three strikes and you're out! Perhaps this is a workable policy, but you need to consider the crime and then make that judgment. In today's world and in the world that came before.... it's the MONEY Stupid! I've got mine, you get yours! And that should be a crime too!

And amazingly, here in Amerika, the Death Penalty is supported in a big way! It's so sick. As time goes by, IF YOU AREN'T this type of tough on crime... you won't get elected!!!
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:41 AM
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2. There is no excuse for that political behaviour
As much as they can call it momentum or "won't get elected.", it is
a crime against the people nevertheless.

What disturbs me most, is that 2/3rds of the way down the article it
explains how blair's indictment of the 60's speach was a deliberate
media deception on his part to hide his purposeful inaction and refusal
to "be tough on the causes of crime". It shows that blair was completely
and utterly cynical, and that he should be sacked straightaway.

He has made the purpose of government the organized deception of his
own people to steal from them, to injure them and to destroy them, and
as much as that is the tory maxim, he has taken the insult to a new
level that is unbecoming to say the least.

To pay billions for a systemic prison system that DOES NOT WORK, and to
ignore all evidence to the contrary, however much based on fact, is
the work of theocrats, and not democratic government.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 04:38 AM
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3. Yah, its outrageous
that is where pandering to the Daily Mail and Sun agenda gets you - into the fucking gutter. When will people learn that dehumanising criminals ain't the way to stop crime?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:36 AM
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4. Sad, very sad.
After reading the whole of that article (thanks for posting BTW)
I didn't feel so much "angry" as "empty" ... dull, grey hopelessness.

Blair and his cronies are exactly the same self-serving hypocrites as
any Thatcherite Tory.

> The Guardian recently republished a letter from a former nurse who had
> started to work with young offenders in Manchester: "It is a complete
> non sequitur that because a boy stole your watch, he should be
> supported on your rates in jail, perhaps for life ... The punishment
> of jail is not a deterrent ... 'Punishment' is perhaps not a word in
> God's vocabulary at all and, if so, ought not to be in ours." The
> letter was written in 1890, by Florence Nightingale. Maybe nothing
> really changes.

As it says, nothing really changes.
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