At least our police are not sodomizing children in Abu Ghraib

[Benbow]

with the cameras rolling. Guys, we really have to get Tony Blair publicly to DISOWN everything Bush is doing, has done, in Iraq. Both because of US-perpetrated incompetence and atrocities, and because we will otherwise continue to suffer reprisals. When the reports being discussed now on DU get out into the wider Muslim world, angry fanatics will be positively queuing up to bomb London.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4179457

I am very upset. If I were Muslim, I would very likely feel murderous.

[stocksthatgoup]

1. The Burning Bush

How do we know this wasn't ordered from the very top? Bush is a proven liar. Yet he hasn't even denied this. Perhaps, he is directly responsible and Laura is the great enabler.

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[nookiemonster]

2. Britain will hold Blair's feet to the fire and demand accountability!

At least I truly hope so. The sheeple in this country are beyond help and could care less.

This will bite us in the ass for years to come, count on it.



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[kiki]

4. Sorry, but...

...don't hold your breath on that one.

[D-Notice]

3. ... not that

we're aware of...

[bennywhale]

6. 2/3 belive the bombs were due to Iraq yet Blair's approval rating has gone

up.

It seems Brits at the moment accept this and feel confident with Blair in charge in a crisis. He will put off an investigation as far as possible but once it comes people may decide they've had enough of his arse kissing of Bush and Brown takes over.

I truly believ Brown would make UK a safer place as he would instantly be less subservient to US foreign policy.

Not because thats what the Terrorists want but because its the right thing toi fucking do.

[Benbow]

7. Yes, I don't understand why Blair is still there, except perhaps it is

because the Opposition is not sufficiently credible just now.

I agree with you about Brown.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

10. I'm hoping (expecting) Brown will be an improvement

He should have ousted Blair though. I know the Labour Party do not like to ape their Tory counterparts in the way they discharge their leaders, but Brown would have been an international hero had he forced Blair out.

Whilst I don't think Brown is going to give us Swedish-style social democracy, we'll be at least be a more equitable and meritocratic a country than we are now.

I feel utter disappointment at the last 8 years. Labour could have delivered more than what they have and I'm talking especially about social liberalism. Had they given us an elected 2nd chamber, gay marriage (though I note civil unions are on their way) and further moves towards environmentalism - I think Britain would have been a more peaceful, fairer and dynamic social democracy than what it is today.

I never got over how mad I felt from 2003 onwards. We finally got something resembling peace in Northern Ireland and the U.K. government gets involved in a foreign war. This war in a "far away place" is on the verge of developing into a sectarian conflict closer to home.

If Blair doesn’t get us out of Iraq in the time he has left, I hope Brown does. The U.S. knows nothing about nation-building (the last Americans who did, (i.e. post-war Europe) have long since died). It should be the U.N. filling the role of nation-builder and most people know it, including the neo-cons whose hatred of multilateralism makes it impossible for them to publicly admit the obvious.

I just realised that I’ve gone-off on a tangent. Sorry.

[LeftishBrit]

8. I agree, it's disgusting!!!

It's all utterly evil in itself, and it's making the UK, and the whole world, less safe!

I also agree that Blair is only still in office because Howard is even worse, and the other parties have no chance.

[Jim Sagle]

9. A low standard indeed!