Labour admits ID card "oversell"

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4744153.stm

Excerpt:

The government has admitted "overselling" the advantages of national identity cards.
Tony McNulty, the Home Office minister responsible for the project, told a left-wing think tank ID cards would not be a panacea for terrorism or fraud.

But the government remained committed to the scheme - despite the high cost.

Mr McNulty also said a battle between the Commons and the Lords about whether the cards become compulsory would end in deadlock.

- snip.

The idea is dying ... the campaign is working.

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1. It'll be used to

discredit their opponents - the majority of the country & then try & guilt peopple into wanting 'em

"We tried to be reasonsable, but everyone was just too stubborn."

[wli]

2. more fascism

No big surprises. They want to require people to have "pseudo-passports" to cross "internal borders."

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3. The plan is dying.

More than 10,000 people committed to the refusenik fund in less than a month. If there is one sacred cow Labour slaughters to prevent abandonment by its base, this will be it. The plan is dying on its feet.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

4. I'm suspecting that this idea will be buried

Stupid idea, poor implementation, high costs, more upheaval. This will end up as dead weight around Labour's neck if they pushed it through Parliament despite all what we know.

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6. It increasingly looks that way. Remember, the Act only enables the cards,

it doesn't mean the system has to be implemented. That's the get-out. Standard story - the bill will scrape through with a few rebellions, and then the plan will be quietly abandoned while Labour pursues its next nonsensical "eye-catching initiative" - my money is on letting foxes gamble, or banning hats. After all, the UK doesn't have any deep-seated social problems any more.

:mad:

[Anarcho-Socialist]

7. This would have been a much better government

had they stopped deluding themselves that the Daily Mail was going to support them. Labour lost many more supporters to the Lib Dems than what they kept or gained from the Tories. I don't think the message has still got through.

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10. It's a message the American left could learn as well.

The rush for the centre (aka the right) alienates the base. Labour won in 1997 not because it looked more like the Tories but because the British people were exhausted by Thatchernomics and saw the horrible damage that had been done to the public infrastructure. If there was a genuine model of straightforward, practical, non-demagogic socialism available, it would be such a refreshing alternative that the British would leap at it. Some politicians who weren't afraid to slam the Daily Mail like it deserves to be slammed.

And no, I don't mean GG.

[TomClash]

5. "New Labour" is now the

"New Nazis"

[Anarcho-Socialist]

8. Labour are increasingly authoritarian, yes

but they don't compare to Nazis.

[non sociopath skin]

9. Tom, I 'm no fan of Tony Blair but can we hold back on this "Nazi" thing..

... it's been said before, but there are some of us who know all too well what real Naziism is, and it both insults their victims and debases the political coin to so brand any government we don't agree with.

Thanks for listening.

The Skin

[TomClash]

11. Aw, I was just being a bit cheeky

Until the Iraq War I actually respected Blair. My relatives on the other side of the pond were and are far less charitable.