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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:35 PM
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Question about moving abroad. RE: Belongings.
We are considering leaving for an undetermined length of time. If we go up to Canada, we simply drive our belongings with us across the boarder. But if we go across the water, to Ireland, England or New Zealand, I'm not sure how to transport belongings.

We don't care about our furniture. My thought is about my book collection and some personal things. Everything we would want to keep can be stored in a 5x7 storage space, possibly even smaller. How can I figure out the cost of shipping items?

How did you decide what to take and what goes? I've even thought of leaving things with my parents and having them hip things as we're able to pay for them, if necessary.

Am I making any sense here?

We've been thinking about the idea and researching what it would take to get into various countries. We know we have a long process ahead of us, and belongings are the top priority, but I can't get the thought out of my head.

And, if anyone knows about transporting a pet, a small house cat who is up in all his shots and has the vet paperwork to prove it, I'd also like to know about that!
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:19 PM
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1. Hope this helps.
If you are moving more than you can bring along with you on a flight, you need to look at ocean shipping. Anything breakable, or irreplaceable, of with sentimental value should be on the flight with you. Anything that you don't need right away should go by boat, unless you have the money to pay air freight. There are many shippers who can ship for you. The most expensive would likely be those who specialize in corporate moves. When you ship to a more developed country (like Ireland, England or New Zealand), really cheap options may be limited. The cheapest options would be companies specializing in shipping for immigrants to the US. For example, when I moved to Kiev, Ukraine last year, I found a shipper who helps recent Russian/Ukrainian/Polish immigrants to the US send parcels back to relatives in the homeland. And family in the former USSR can ship a touch of the homeland back to the USA. Since recent emigrants to the US are rarely rich, this is the cheapest option. I shipped close to 1/2 ton for under $1000. Ireland, England or New Zealand are relatively well-to-do countries and might not have this ultra cheap option. Try to google "cheap shipping USA to country name" (without the quotes). Another option might to try to tap into the US expat community in your destination country. They have faced these issues before. Try to google "US expat country name" (without the quotes) and look for a bulletin board similar to DU where you can post your question.

Furniture. While you can sell that at yard sales, I think you'll be better off trying other options. Much of my furniture went to family and friends. My desk and some old computer hardware went to family, friends, and to members of a computer users group I belonged to. My vinyl record collection and CD's got a good price on Craig's List. Much more than I could have hoped for at a yard sale. And books and excess clothing I had no use for went to the local library and to a local clothing drive. Anything else that wasn't going with me went the yard sale route.

What to bring. Depends. I was moving because this was where my new love was. I knew what she had and didn't have. If you are moving alone or as a family, you likely will not have a furnished place to move into, or not furnished as you would like. Electronics is what you must give the most thought to. If the country you are going to has different voltages, leave all small electronics behind. Buy new stuff when you arrive. But the expensive stuff? Some new computers have universal power supplies, especially if it's a laptop. You just need a new adapter or a voltage transformer. Broadcast radio has few variances, so radios are more likely to work, after the voltage issue is addressed. TV's? Possible big headache. Not only is the voltage different, but the method of broadcast is different. Cable TV is more standardized, I think. Your other computer stuff like printers, scanners, can come with you as long as you buy a sufficient voltage transformer, not the $10 converters. Any of the countries you mentioned should have access to things like printer ink, but in lesser developed countries, who knows?

All of the more developed countries have websites with information about short-term stays, or possibly immigrating to the country. In lesser developed countries, you may have an easier time bending the rules. In the countries you mention, likely more difficult. Understand the rules.

Did not transport a pet, but numerous countries have quarantines for animals shipped into the country. Many will quarantine for many months, at your expense. Having proof may not change that.

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:38 PM
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2. Thank you very much!
And welcome to DU! :hi:
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 06:18 PM
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3. I'd look into expat forums for your intended destinations
Moving items to NZ requires getting a shipping container, which I expect will cost about $10K.

As for the pets, I've heard it costs about $2k per cat to move them to NZ b/c of the shipping and quarantine requirements--which I believe is 6 months. Probably better to give your pet to a dear friend.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:31 PM
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5. Not quite that bad...
So long at the critter is well jabbed (especially rabies vaccine) and you've got all the paperwork, it's a 30 day quarantine for NZ and I think just 2 days for the UK - and I assume Eire as well. The important thing to do is get a pet shipping specialist in to handle the paperwork, which is nasty - there are limits on routes, handling and 'packaging' that need to be stuck to, and advance clearances and approvals: go astray and it is 6 months. $2k is about right, though.

If you have a small amount to ship, you should be able to get it contained with somebody else's stuff: the trick is to find a shipping company that will do the extra work, since just renting out and moving a container is easier from their point of view. Shop around.

And it might not apply to you, but anything used outdoors coming to NZ will need to get through Biosecurity on arrival - give any tools, gardening stuff or hiking gear a good clean before it's packed or might get a an extra bill...
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:04 PM
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4. I've been getting quotes this week for a 20 ft storage containter to NZ
They are coming in at 7K-10K. That's 'door-to-door,' including them packing all my stuff.

One company I spoke with also said 'crates' were an option. Those are approximately 200 square feet (7x7x4) and I got the impression they would be about 3K each.

You might also look into this: http://tinyurl.com/yh5um5
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