Dr John Holt Cancer research. PLEASE READ

[foreigncorrespondent]

Hi, guys!

I just received this in an email and thought it important enough to post here.

Recently I had a cancer scare. I wasbeing tested for both breast cancer and lymphoma (cancer of the lyph nodes.) I am only 37 years old, and lucky my test results came back negative. But for many people out there, they aren't as lucky as me. And it is high time the people of Australia banned together and fought the big drug companies and governemnt.

I haven't changed anything in the email apart from removing the names that were at the end. I figured if you guys are interested you could copy and paste and begin a new circulation of this.

Thanks,

Tina

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Fw: Dr John Holt CANCER RESEARCH. PLEASE READ

Hi everyone, Recently, you may have watched A Current Affair story recently aired on Perth-based surgeon, Dr John Holt, whom many believe has the cure for cancer. The NHMRC is supposedly conducting a review of Dr Holt's method of cancer treatment - Microwave Cancer Therapy. The original date for this review to be submitted to the Minister for Health was December 21, 2004.

It was not submitted. A further date was set. Again, the review was not submitted. It has still not been submitted.

Strange when considering Dr. Holt's claim that he could train any doctor to apply his therapy in a day. Dr Holt, who is 80 years of age, has cured thousands of people of many forms of cancer and will be closing his practice on June 30, 2005 because his method of treatment is considered by our government to be unorthodox. Chemo (a known killer), is the accepted, Orthodox method in cancer treatment.

Dr, Holt's retirement will be a great loss to his patients and to the many thousands who could possibly be cured by his clearly successful method; people who will be told by oncologists that there is nothing that can be done for them.

This is your chance to help fellow Australians, who finally have a chance to beat cancer, keep Dr. Holt's work from being buried by our bureaucrats. Have you ever noticed how many appeals there are for cancer research, yet after more than three decades, there is no cure? Ever noticed how every cancer cure ultimately gets swept under the carpet?

Cancer is a multi-billion dollar global industry that will not recognize any cure that cannot be manufactured as a patentable drug.

We, the undersigned, demand that the Australian Government and the Department of Health and Ageing act swiftly and responsibly to ensure that Dr. Holt's treatment method for cancer be fairly evaluated and implemented in mainstream medicine in Australia if it is proven to be beneficial in the treatment of cancer, and that Dr. Holt be recognized for his ground breaking work.



INSTRUCTIONS - COPY AND PASTE THIS ONTO A NEW E-MAIL..... THEN Please number and place your name at the end of this list, then forward this email to anyone you know who believes in common decency the right to life. If you are the 50th person on this list, please forward this email to: Mr. Tony Abbott, Minister of Health & Ageing at [e-mail] And cc to: [e-mail] And also cc to: [e-mail]

You must then clear the list of all names and start a new list. We will hit Abbott with thousands of lists which we believe cannot be ignored. We have the opportunity to bust the insidious cancer industry (essentially American drug companies) wide open in Australia. We're small enough as a nation to be able to do it.



Thank you for your assistance in attempting to save the work of Doctor Holt and with it, possibly, the lives of thousands of cancer sufferers in Australia and the world.

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[still_one]

1. question

What are Dr. Holts credentials and background?

He claims thousands of people have been cured of cancer. Has this been documented using appropriate tests to confirm that they are free of cancer, with follow-up?

What types of cancer is his treatment effective against?

There are too little specifics presented in your post. Where has he documented his results?

[foreigncorrespondent]

2. I have no answer for you!

I missed the ACA report on this. What I suggest you do is contact ACA themselves. I would do it for you, but I have no spare time to actually sit and write them until later next week.

[still_one]

3. I was just curious

There are so many people who make claims, and have the potential to take advantage of people in their most vulnerable time

The issue is what role does the government have regarding a patient's treatment?

[Matilda]

4. Links to the ACA website and stories on Dr Holt.

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/search/search.asp?query=Dr+John+Holt&collection=ACA&scope=%2Fstories%2F&go.x=9&go.y=5


I certainly believe that the drug companies don't want to hear about
any cures for cancer. And they have financial clout with the
government of the day.

[still_one]

5. sorry, but people who work for drug companies get cancer also

you are entitled to your view, but I don't buy it

[foreigncorrespondent]

6. Ok, let me explain it to you this way. :)

You have John Howard as PM to Australia. Howard is a right wing loyalist. Generally the right wing governments strike up deals with big business, because the owners of those business are usually friends, or friends of friends.

Now, we have Howard in bed with Bush*. Did Howard listen to the Australian people or Bush* in regards to the Iraq war?

Most Australian drug companies hail from bigger American American companies. A lot of those big American companies are generous donators and supporters of Bush*. So let's put two and two together.

1. You have Howard selling Australia out to Bush* and his bunch of thugs.

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2. You have big American drug companies doing business here in Australia. Their goal, not to cure people, after all, if they did that, they would end up out of business. Their main goal is to make money and more money.

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3. You have an Australian doctor who just may have discovered a cure for cancer. If this cure is in fact real, then that would generate a loss to those drug companies.

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4. Howard and the Australian government protecting the interest of the drug companies by not recognizing a working cure for cancer. Where do you think the government loyalties lie? To the people of Australia? Regardless of if they happen to have cancer and work for one of those drug companies?

If you think Howard supports the people of Australia, then think again. Take a look at the Australian Workers Agreement if you think that. Trust me, you won't be thinking that way for long.

[still_one]

7. whatever

what about drug companies in Europe or Asia. They are quite compentent. In fact it was the satin drugs that were initially developed in Japan

I don't buy it, I used to be a chemist, I know researchers and biochemists in the field of cancer, and I don't buy it

[foreigncorrespondent]

8. Well "whatever" right back at you!

How rude of you to come into another persons thread, begin crap, and then be rude to the OP of that thread. I told you where to look to find answers. It isn't up to me to do homework for you.

Matilda linked you to the bloody ACA story, and all you could come back with was "sorry but people who work for drug companies get cancer also." Who in this thread said they didn't? No one is disputing that. So your point for mentioning that, was?

As for the "competent" Europe and Asian drug companies, sorry that doesn't bite with me. I have watched several family members and friends die from cancer. People I have known have gone trough chemo and radiation treatment, only to lose the fight in the end because that shit made them weaker.

Dr Holt has had a very high success rate with his method. A much better success rate than the current system in place.

Now nowhere in my OP does it state, still_one, you have to push your beliefs aside and make a copy of this to begin distrbuting amongst your friends and family. I am not forcing you to do this. I posted it for others to send it out if they wished.

I did not expect rudeness to enter this thread, however. You have made it obvious that you do not support new methods of cure for a horrible disease like cancer, so why continue your diatribe here for? What value is that offering to this thread? When this thread isn't forcing anyone to do anything? Or is it that you believe others shouldn't have access to an alternative route, rather than going down the slippery slope road of chemo or radiation treatment?

On edit: I thought I would add, that I had no idea you were from CA. ACA is A Curret Affair. A Syndey based current affairs program which runs five nights a week on a station whose owner happens to be a Howard supporter. I suggest you read these reports from them, or better yet, click the links and watch the video.

The doctor many believe can cure cancer

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Elvina Johnson had a lot of living to do when she was told she had an aggressive form of bone cancer. At 18, doctors discovered she had a "galaxy of tumours". She lost her leg and underwent intensive chemo treatment to try and stop it spreading. Her cancer was so severe that she relapsed soon after.

"It was through both of my lungs and by that stage it was pretty terminal," she told Ray Martin.

Elvina was desperate. Quite by chance she heard about a cancer specialist with a highly controversial procedure.

"By taking the chance and finding this man, I am here six years later and probably feeling better than ever, so I have had a rebirth," she said.

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Link: http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/stories/1744.asp

Dr Holt - cancer doctor

For the past six months ACA have been bringing you the story of Perth based surgeon, Dr John Holt, whom many believe has the cure for cancer.

He's 80 years old, a radiologist, a gynaecologist and an obstetrician and for the past 30 years he has pioneered the use of microwaves to treat cancer. Dr Holt believes that he has saved the lives of cancer patients that many other doctors couldn't.

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Link: http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/stories/1827.asp

But here, let's not just stick to the articles on ACA:

Dr John Holt and Cancer

One of the more successful treatments for cancer has been pioneered by Dr John Holt. This well qualified Australian doctor has been able to cure certain types of cancer with no adverse side effects.

The method involves irradiating the cancer with microwaves of a particular frequency designed to destroy cancer cells while leaving the normal cells unharmed. See www.smile.org.au/holt.htm for more details of the process.

Not everyone can be cured and some cancers respond better than others. Lymphomas, Hodgkin's disease, breast cancer and bladder cancers respond particularly well. However Dr Holt has also had good success with other cancers, including the currently incurable Mesophelioma (cancer of the lungs). He has reported that out of the 14 Mesophelioma patients he has treated 5 are still alive after 5 years.

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Link: http://www.esotericscience.com/Health.aspx#holt

But I suggest you begin researching further yourself. I really don't have the time for it.

[still_one]

9. I have every right to post my opinions on this thread as you do

Last time I looked the rules here allow the free exchange of ideas

I have my thoughts just as you have your thoughts. Some issues I will agree with you on, and some I won't.

When people make an accusation that drug companies have a conspiracy to prevent a cure for cancer from occurring I take exception to that.

I also take exception to your comment that I am being rude expressing my opinions

[foreigncorrespondent]

13. Right...

...a free exchange of ideas. What ideas have you given? NONE! You have been rude, obsessive and thus far haven't shown any links backing up just how brilliant the current system is. Why is that? Could it be that we all already know about the current system, and a lot of people don't agree with it?

I supplied three articles. Matilda supplied you with a link to all stories on Dr Holt at the ACA Web site, have you even clicked on them?

By thw way, saying "whatever" to someone is rude.

[still_one]

10. Incidently, I never said Dr. Holt's treatments work or not

[still_one]

12. Incidently radiofrequency treatment is not new, at least here

in the states

What I find interesting is that it should be controversal at all

[foreigncorrespondent]

14. ROFL

Dr John Holt is the man who came up with it. Or don't you realize that Australia has been one of the world leaders of medicine discovery?

On edit: By the way, what does this have to do with the U.S. We happen to be talking about the Australian governments involvement in the Australian peoples health care system here, in the Australian forums.

[still_one]

18. OK you are right

I came across as a pompus ass

[still_one]

19. and I didn't realize that I was on the Australian forum

sorry, best to all of you

[still_one]

11. politics has no business in scientific research

The most perfect example is the embroyonic stem cell research debate

When you have some pharmacists in this country refusing distribute birth control prescriptions, a real problem is occurring

As long as informed consent is presented to the patient, I believe a person has the right to accept any treatment they think necessary

[foreigncorrespondent]

15. Finally!

We agree on something. Amazing!!!

[Matilda]

16. Just a couple of points -

Big Pharma have drugs that can help fight AIDS - why have they
consistently fought against distributing them at minimal cost to
the poorest African countries, where people are suffering in their
millions? Nobody's ever asked them to give anything free, just to
keep profits to a minimum to help the poorest people. And
incidentally, many people believe that the AIDS epidemic is a result
of faulty polio vacines administered in Zaire decades ago - but if
it was, I doubt we'll ever hear a confessions from the drug
companies.

And in Australia, we have had for decades an excellent health scheme
whereby costs for most drugs are kept artificially low and the
drug companies are reimbursed by the Federal Government. Big Pharma
has tried very hard to have this scheme cut back to only a few
drugs, because if they had a free hand they could charge far more
than the Government pays them. They did a big push during
negotiations for the new free trade agreement, but because Howard
was facing an election, he didn't dare eliminate the benefits to
consumers.

Do I think the drug companies are in business to help eliminate
disease or to maximise profits at whatever cost to the sick and
needy? Guess.

[still_one]

17. No argument about that, but I blame that mostly on the government

not helping defray the cost.

I can give you several examples though where big drug pharma actually has tried to help. One that comes to mind is Merck which donated its drug Mectizan to tropical nations suffering from river blindness.

The big disgrace is the U.S. government under bush.
bush announced that he would increase U.S. funding for HIV/AIDS prevention and treatment in Africa and elsewhere, but later made public that they would expand the gag rule to any global health assistance, along with the right wing congress that they intend to funnel the bulk of the new HIV/AIDS money to religious organizations concerned with abstinence-based approach to HIV prevention that excludes condoms.

[zum]

21. I'd like to see what he has achieved

If there are documented convincing results. But I have lived long enough to see quite a few physicians claiming impressive results: Remember Milan Brych, a Czech who worked his claims through New Zealand and Fiji before getting to the US, where he was jailed for transparent reasons in a public trial? Remember Steve McQueen, the actor, dying in some clinic in Mexico that was treating him with laetrile, a peach pit extract that was a "miracle cure" banned in the US because of extravagant claims made for it. I also remember the Australians and New Zealanders who flocked to "faith healers" in the Philippines, who also got a lot of press at the time. Where are they now? And remember William McBride, who identified the effects of thalidomide and undoubtedly saved so many more people from them, but then let his ego get the better of him and falsified research results. He was exposed by two of his research associates. If this WA doctor has strong evidence that his work has been beneficial, why not publish in the accepted medical journals? In the past, good scrutiny and useful support and information have come from this course of action. If it's viable, it will overcome political or corporate opposition.

[still_one]

20. This company looks to be involved in exactly what Doctor Holt is doing

http://www.bsdmc.com/

This is extremely hopeful:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050830/bsd_medical_duke_study.html?.v=1

http://www.bsdmc.com/pdf/hyperthermia.pdf