What did Olberman mean by "More Mainstream Guests"?????

[tbuddha]

That seems very, very odd to me. For starters, if he was going to do a story about BBV, why wouldn't he have Bev on? It DOES sound like a lame excuse. After all, Bev was good enough for Topic A with Tina Brown.

Also, why does Keith think it was so bad of Bev to walk into LaWhore's "retirement" party? She was voted out Keith, and she was being celebrated for how great she has been at being crooked. I don't buy it.

I think Keith is a very intelligent, good man. I also think he works for a network that is run by some of the evilest of men. I look at shows like "Hardball" and the way they covered it recently and question their intentions.

Until I hear from Bev more, I am DEFINITELY keeping an open mind. So should you.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

1. Maybe he's getting pressure from management

:shrug:

[jbnow]

2. If I were to guess

"more mainstream guests" as it kicked off...would be a good way to not turn more mainstream viewers off, showing the "more respectable" people raising some questions. You build up to the less mainstream once you've built more foundation.

Keith can have his ideas and opinions. (Keith is not our monkey)

I didn't mind the idea she went in publicly. It might make her look "rude" but it would draw much more media attention Florida voting concerns. She has her ideas and opinions.

I don't have to decide who is right/wrong here and time will tell more. I appreciate that both are trying to do something about this serious problem.

[Truman01]

3. I think he is calling bev a wing nut.......... N/t

[Maddy McCall]

5. If so...

I agree with him.

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[Ducks In A Row]

22. and that's why it's good that Bev not trust MSM

because they don't want to hear the truth. They will not let anyone else tell the truth to the public who watches them

And don't believe MSM lies that she refuses to be interviewed.

She's been on AAR and Pacifica, and they have no trouble getting interviews with her.

Maybe it's time for Oblermann to just admit he's as big a media whore as the rest. And that he doesn't have real control over his show.

Remember, when he was on vacation, he could have take a day or two to go to florida and see with his own eyes what was happening.

But the lasy whore didn't have the guts to go to the front lines and dig into the truth at Bev's side.

Hell, he could do that now. Take a film crew and go to florida. Film what's happening right now.

Hell, you could do that. Get a video camera, go to florida.

[Caution]

4. probably has something to do with the fact that 95% of the US

population has never heard of Bev Harris. Just because she is a resident celebrity here doesn't make her "mainstream" Olberman and his staff may wish to have someone with more mainstream credibility than someone like Bev who is still working on getting that credibility.

[tbuddha]

11. They had her on CNN...

So that argument makes no sense at all.

Keep in mind that CNN leans a little more to the left than the hard right MSNBC

[Caution]

20. That makes no sense whatsoever

CNN having her on suddenly makes her a credible mainstream source? does this change the fact that no one i know besides DU'ers has any clue who Bev Harris is? I want her to be taken seriously too but sometimes we just have to let the process work. Olberman has done more than any other media figure to get out the word on vote fraud than anyone else and jumping all over him because Bev didnt get on his show is not only stupid, it's counter-productive.

[Clark2008]

17. Exactly

And she's not winning any of that credibility by withholding tapes - be they video or voter.

I can appreciate those who say she's saving them for legal reasons - a court action or suit - but, if she's simply trying to protect her conduct and sources for future legal use, why did she barge into a retirement party with tapes rolling and make a big deal out of something that should have been handled by process servers?

I'm hoping that, by issuing forward with the grandiose, she doesn't ruin the integrity of her investigation, if it is, indeed, valid. And Keith is aware of these implications.

[flordehinojos]

6. oh, and on your comment that LaWhore was being celebrated for how great

she has been at being a crooked supervisor of election, it is interesting to note that it was BRENDA SNIPES, JEB BUSH'S HOUSE SERVANT, the one who went up to the podium and took the microphone to celebrate LaWhore at full blast while LaWhore was being served some papers by Bev.

Maybe Keith Olberman intends to have BRENDA SNIPES as his guest on the program.

[New Earth]

7. i'm a little disappointed that i went to bed last night

hoping that i would wake up and there would be no more threads about Bev and Keith. This is just fucking ridiculous.

[tbuddha]

12. Unfortuantely, we've been infiltrated by trolls

[Ducks In A Row]

23. it makes you want to scream, doesn't it? :(

Bev is busting her hump for us, and these freepers are bashing her right and the other right.

They need to go back to freeperland

[smartvoter]

8. Is this STILL going on? Good God.

[mattclearing]

9. He probably meant...

People with greater name recognition, like the Governor of Ohio and Jesse Jackson.

I don't think KO is dissing Bev. I just think that he is wary, having already stuck his neck out, and doesn't see how he can work with Bev if she can't provide video, for whatever reason.

People need to stop taking this personally. Bev is going to continue working for the cause, and KO will continue working to expose whatever happens.

Have some faith.

[tbuddha]

13. AMEN

[SueZhope]

14. another thought on that question

Perhaps also Bev is not considered mainstream because her BBV
organization is grassroots and does not come across all polished .
Looking at the website and listening to the story's they come
across a little disorganized. Not easy to package for TV

This is TV land were "polished" is in
We see the "mainstream" talking heads on the shows
that look like the are saying something
but what there saying is often
hot air and talking points..... Bev does not fit into
that kind of guest

Has Bev showed up with answers to the KO story?

[tbuddha]

15. hmmm....I thought he sounded suspicious

that's why I put this post on here.

I hope that now people will understand a little more. Keith is a nice guy, but he works for a crooked organization. Period.

I trust Bev WAY more. And if she was trying to profit off all this, all the more American of her I say.,

[Chicago Lulu]

16. what?

He wasn't doing a story on BBV. He was starting a series on election irregularities. That first night, he had Representative John Conyers on to talk about the request for a GAO investigation request.

Even among our crowd, I think everyone would agree Conyers is more mainstream than Bev, by any definition of the word. Do you disagree?

[tbuddha]

19. He has mentioned BBV and Bev Harris several times

My point is this:

Keith isn't being up front. I say this because he said he wanted to "reschedule" Bev so that he could have on a more mainstream guest. That doesn't make sense. We all know Bev has been at the forefront of the BlackBoxVoting issue all along. Hell, she coined the term! Why wouldn't you have her on? I don't buy his excuse because it's not like someone's popularity has ever been a factor to being on his show before. It's what the story calls for.

Plus, he denies having ever talked to her yet he says his "staff" has. So what does that mean? Does he have a number? Why could his staff reach her and he couldn't. It sounds really shady and his network is SOOOO republican I can't see how you can trust that. Bev has been on this for a long time and has done lots of good work. We wouldn't be having this discussion without her. I keep my faith in Bev till the end.

[The Flaming Red Head]

18. He's a hockey fan, so he plays rough.

He wants her to come out swinging.

[Ducks In A Row]

21. she's been interviewing with people on AAR and Pacfica and...

other independents.

If she doesn't have any trouble speaking honestly on those shows, you have to ask yourself want is it that the MSM is trying to force on her.


Because she will be not forced into filtering her message. She was Randi Rhodes and explained that she'd been cancelled from Olbermann's show because she was going to say the word "FRAUD".

And Olbermann, as much as he reporting on voting problem, would never be allowed to say that word (not until this week I guess because of Jackson).

Bev doesn't need the MSM, they need her. She has plenty of outlets to express the truth and she makes good use of them.

[Skinner]

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