Fiction is seldom delivered by affidavit

[Cronus Protagonist]

Expecially fiction about the BFEE. Think about it. Who would take on the BFEE if they didn't have truth on their side?

Only someone WITH the BFEE, right? And that would mean the BFEE wants us to think that the methodology was malicious software, and that these people are involved. Why would they want us to think that? We already know the software's as wide open as a whore's legs on the last night of a Republican Convention.

The only conclusions left are that the affiant has truth on his side and may feel he needs to expose what he knows or be suicided; or he's totally, over-the-edge wacko crazy with a death wish.

Which is it?

[ClintCooper2003]

1. EXACTLY! WHAT INCENTIVE DOES CURTIS HAVE TO LIE??

[Cronus Protagonist]

3. Maybe he IS a wacko and this is his flame

A shooting star in the collective consciousness that we call life. Who knows for sure? I don't.




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[Hamoth]

18. To promote his book?

Over at hte RRMB, KyndCulture found out that Curtis has a book.

http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inke...62-0976195917-0
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Just a Fly on the Wall
by Clint Curtis


ISBN: 0976195917 Publisher: Clint Curtis Publication Date: September 2004 Binding: Paperback Language: English Pages: 316 Dimensions: .66x6.14x9.21 in. .98 lbs.

Synopses & Reviews
Synopsis:
You've read the speculation. Heard about all the research books. No one has actually come forward and told a first hand account of the deceptions of the Bush Administration. Now someone has. With time running out, finally, an eyewitness has come forward. Within the pages of this book, you will learn that the Bush Administration has: Purposely attempted to rig the last election results and has the elements in place to rig the 2004 election. Knew that Iraq had no WMD, yet planned to invade Iraq, Iran, and Syria even prior to his election in 2000. Makes speeches on making America safer, while allowing Communist spies high security access to government installations. Covered up and prevented NASA investigations into spying and even sent the Vice President and the appointed head of NASA to campaign for the congressman responsible for the spies access to NASA.

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[jsamuel]

19. Yes, so does everyone and their Mother...

Bill Clinton does too... I am very suspicous of him... I think he became Pres. just to sell a book...

Anyone who ever wrote a book, in my book, is not credible. Even if everything they say is backed up with facts, it doesn't matter. I am even starting to doubt that William was ever President to begin with. You just cannot trust these book writers.

[Cronus Protagonist]

20. Why resort to ridicule?

It may in fact be true that he's promoting his book. Not that it necessarily has any bearing on the affidavit, or what's more important, what was said in the affidavit.

[jsamuel]

25. That was not ridicule, it was sarcasm

He is a republican writing about republicans

Not a dem writing about repubs.

Unlike the swiftboat guys, he was there that day. He reported this years ago and no one listened. He reported it to an investigator BEFORE WRITING A BOOK and he "committed suicide" in 2003. This guy has been trying to get his story out every way possible and that includes writing a book, so what.

[jsamuel]

27. Also he has not mentioned a book and neither has anyone else

related to this whole thing. The only ones bring up the book are the ones who are challenging his credibility. If he starts to promote the book, then fine you are right, but so far NOTHING about the book has even been uttered.

[Cronus Protagonist]

28. I have made no allegations, so I can't be right

I'm just supporting a high level of integrity and a thorough investigation. You don't want to be Rathered, do you? I don't.

[jsamuel]

31. Of course not, and I think we need to know what "they" are going to say

about this guy too. I am just pointing out why I completely disagree.

[Hamoth]

26. Read the message I responded to.

Somone asked why he would do this. I gave a possible answer that I didn't see under consideration anywhere else. It's something people need to know for a lot of different reasons.

[jsamuel]

29. The biggest reason I dissagree is that SOMEONE "COMMITTED SUICIDE" OVER

THIS! He was telling his story to an investigator in 2003 BEFORE WRITING A BOOK. That man "committed suicide" in 2003. I just don't see a book motivation back then.

[Hamoth]

34. WE don't know

for sure what might have happened.

Causality and criminality are not currently facutally established in these cases. This is an element of circumstancial evidence. Many people in my life have died in unusual ways, unexpected suicides, etc...but that doesn't mean that it had anythign to do with me.

You don't know that the death of that person has anything to do with Curtis' claims.

[jamboi]

2. Maybe he WANTS to go rot in jail for perjury. Yeah, that's the ticket. n/t

[texpatriot2004]

4. Good point. And nobody wants

to be "suicided." I really like that term because it's like imposed suicide. You know, but imposed by someone other than self and therefore, not suicide at all. Suicided, who wants that, better to speak out.

[understandinglife]

5. Well, whatever 'it' is, 'it' was submitted to the House...

...Judiciary Committee on 6 Dec 2004.

quoted, personal email from Brad Friedman:

"Haven't been able to get back on my site at all since it's been slammed.

As it eases up, I'll be able to post more follow to many questions I've seen.

The affidavit has been given (unscanned!) to the Dem Judiciary Comm."

Brad
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Brad Friedman
THE BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com

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Peace.

"Did Bush Know?"

[Cronus Protagonist]

8. You know, if I try to think really really sneaky... like the BFEE might...

I wonder if they might like to blame the inevitable discovery of the fraud on some foreign "traitors" - kind of what the CIA might do to "steer the legend". In effect, they would be trimming the sails of the unfolding story so it heads in the preferred direction that they want.




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[understandinglife]

11. Well, who knows, they can try whatever they want...

....but this one is going to pave them they way they've tried to pave our franchise of democracy. We're taking the steamroller away from them, real soon now.

Peace.

"Did Bush Know?"

[texpatriot2004]

6. kick it to the top

[texpatriot2004]

7. Yes, fiction is seldom delivered by Affidavit. n/t

[Cronus Protagonist]

9. Expecially when, if it were fictitious, they could just use the media

An affidavit would be far less effective than a few well fabricated stories in the corporate press. I mean, isn't that what the media arm of a totalitarian regime is for - propaganda?

[Hamoth]

32. Wow. That's a great point N/T

[Cronus Protagonist]

37. The swiftboat vets against Kerry also had affidavits and they LIED

So that's not really much of a credibility booster, ya know?

[jsamuel]

10. Feeney sold NASA secrets to China for rigged elections in the US

just throwing that out there...

China has made a very startling jump into the space race as of late...

[Alizaryn]

14. Actually he provided info that helped to get Hai Lin Nee

The quality control director arrested for being an illegal alien and sending radar guidance system chips for Hellfire Missiles to Communist China...if I read it correctly. Also claims that Yang's brother was deported for spying.

[Cronus Protagonist]

16. If that stuff is true, why wasn't it major headline news?

So that makes me wonder if the affidavit is worth the paper it's allegedly printed on, so... check this out... ever seen a notary with a seal and stamp that's anonymous? I'm not an expert on this, but someone said on another thread that this was unusual.

And where is this notary from? Maryland? Anyone in the area know this place?

(I'm not coming to conclusion now, I just want to authenticate - locating the notary would be a prudent move at this juncture)

Top looks like

ALS - - - GREEN

And below,

PRINCE DE OA - - S. MD

[jamboi]

21. Oh its true all right. Do the research. n/t

[jsamuel]

33. Look, Clint has already confirmed this is his affidavit in an interview

There is no reason to look up the person who signed it.

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=479

[Cronus Protagonist]

36. Why are you fighting it?

Placing their name on an affidavit is what notaries do. They don't get to hide, and the can't operate anonymously.

What's the harm in finding this person and why are you expending so much time trying to prevent us from validating the seal?

Spill.

[dpibel]

35. I'd be reasonably certain

That's Prince Georges County, which is contiguous with DC.

[Alizaryn]

12. They would eat him alive with lawsuits for slandering their

names and reputations, (besides the perjury charges). Just does not make any sense from any angle I can think of for this to be a lie. The thing that confuses me is why is this only coming out now? Its just curious timing, I'd like to hear him rational.

[jsamuel]

13. It came out before

The person he was talking to and investigating it "committed suicide" in 2003.

[Alizaryn]

15. Yeah, I just wish this had come out before the election,

but, then maybe he tried and was ignored. I'd like to hear that part of his story.

[NVMojo]

17. his butt is hanging out farther than Madsen's ever was ...

it's a good thing he published his findings already and filed a quitam claim two years ago on the fraudulent billing practices. His case has been out there and now it's getting more coverage...

[Hamoth]

22. Didn't the SBVFT Have affadavits? N/T

[jamboi]

23. If they did that's great since JK is planning to sue their asses off and

now they'll be liable for perjury as well as libel and slander. Cool! And thanks for illustrating my point so nicely Hamoth!

[Hamoth]

24. No problem

I hope he does. Let's see.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. Can't imagine it being the first option -- Put out something that

trashed themselves to ultimately prove its wrong. Oh wait, there was the Rather deal which I always thought was a plant. They could be getting back at Feeney for his refusal to vote for the medicare deal they were arm twisting for. On the other hand, I want to believe this guy SO bad it hurts

[Coexist]

38. question about

"if you inspect the code, you will see it. Once the vote is flipped, you will not. Once it flips those, the other number is permanently gone. There’s not receipt, there’s no trace, there’s no track.”

Okay, please PLEASE correct me if I am wrong. According to what I read, if, when the person does the "touch-screen" code, and your candidate is ahead ,nothing happens. If they are not, they automatically get 51%, right. After the vote is flipped, the programs disappears? Is that right?

Now, if the above is true, wouldn't there be a machine out there where Bush really was winning all the time? And if so, wouldn't the program still be there, because it was never deleted (or whatever) because it was never used to flip??

Am I too sleep deprived?

[iconoclastNYC]

39. If they put this code on these machines

They had to break into some office to do it; you can be you after all this action on the blogosphere the reverse has been done.

Of course there are so many there is the chance that someone was sloppy. But we'd have to get the FBI to impound them and thats not very likely is it?

[texpatriot2004]

40. kick it