"I don't know if Mr. McTigue is in a position to dictate the terms of a recount."

[henslee]

--- Carlo LoParo, spokesman for Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, who said state law will guide counties on how to conduct the recount.

THIS IS THE LAST LINE OF THE "KERRY LAWYERS LETTER" AP NEWS STORY. LOOKS LIKE WE CAN EXPECT A DOGFIGHT.

[RaulVB]

1. "Bring it on"

LT. Kerry is up to the challenge.

[henslee]

4. You've been feisty all day, Raul.

[RaulVB]

7. Yeah, I know

I watched that C-Span "527s" crap in the morning.

Big mistake!

:argh:

[henslee]

10. Me too. I cant believe the swiftboat sluts and those Ashley's wish pigs

could even show their face, let alone garner kudos from a crowd. Blechhh. You can bet that crowd was handpicked...I did not watch the whole thing...(could not stomach) Always cracks me up how "white" and flabby freep ops always appear. It's almost a cliche. Did anybody heckle them? I doubt it. Were there any dem. 527's represented? Did not catch them if they were.

[RaulVB]

12. I stopped watching it.

I don't think there were any.

[stella2cat]

2. since when do they do anything according to the law? n/t

[fearnobush]

3. That is a clear "We are hiding something" statement.

They may as well just come out and say, "we are hiding the proof from you and no one can stop us."

[shraby]

5. Kerry the prosecutor is ready for their tricks

he has his papers in order or he wouldn't growl.It's party time! :party: :toast:

[fearnobush]

6. God I sure hope so.

[anamandujano]

11. that "what are you hiding" message has to

match or overtake whatever garbage they spew to justify not verifying the vote of the people

[Chimpanzee]

8. What do you expect from a traitor?

[Straight Shooter]

9. I've never seen a snarling snake but I imagine it looks just like ...

... Carlo LoParo.

[jamboi]

13. That LoParo guy really helps us out by being so obnoxious. Every

quote by him just eggs on his opponents. Digging his own grave. Bully.

[nickdw]

14. Ohio § 3515.01

Actually, if McTigue is considered a "qualified elector" him and four others can effectually dictate terms, according to Ohio state law:

§ 3515.01 Persons eligible to apply for recount

Any person for whom votes were cast in a primary election for nomination as a candidate for election to an office who was not declared nominated may file with the board of elections of a county a written application for a recount of the votes cast at such primary election in any precinct in such county for all persons for whom votes were cast in such precinct for such nomination.

Any person who was a candidate at a general, special, or primary election for election to an office or position who was not declared elected may file with the board of a county a written application for a recount of the votes cast at such election in any precinct in such county for all candidates for election to such office or position.

Any group of five or more qualified electors may file with the board of a county a written application for a recount of the votes cast at an election in any precinct in such county upon any question or issue, provided that the members of such group shall state in such application either that they voted "Yes" or in favor of such question or issue and that such question or issue was declared defeated or rejected, or that they voted "No" or against such question or issue and that such question or issue was declared carried or adopted. Such group of electors shall, in such application, designate one of the members of the group as chairman, and shall indicate therein the voting residence of each member of such group. In all such applications the person designated as chairman is the applicant for the purposes of sections 3515.01 to 3515.07 of the Revised Code, and all notices required by section 3515.03 of the Revised Code to be given to an applicant for a recount shall be given to such person.

( Thanks to:
Election Law @ Moritz
55 W. 12th Ave. Room 202 Columbus, Ohio 43210
[phone]
[e-mail] )

[thanatonautos]

16. Qualified elector means registered Ohio voter in this case.

This section of the law just specifies that 5 electors from
a county who voted against the result of a yes/no
question can request from a county BOE a recount of the
votes on the question in any precinct in the county.

The clause mentioning electors doesn't apply to general,
special or primary elections, for which a candidate
who was not declared the winner may request a recount
from a county BOE in any precinct in the county.

It looks from this as if the candidate(s) requesting
the recount can choose the precinct(s) to be
recounted.

I think McTigue represents Kerry here, and Kerry so
far is an intervenor in legal actions on behalf of
the glib recount effort.

There are definitely going to be legal battles
to see what will get looked at. We know that
J. Katherine Blackwell-Harris is not going to
agree to anything, unless absolutely forced to.

Don't underestimate the power that can be exercised
with bought and paid for Republicans installed at the
top of the state boe. Not to mention various local
judges, plenty of whom probably owe the party
favours in return for their seats, if the judiciary is
anything like it is here in NY.

In and around NYC, fights and corruption in city
and state politics have been legendary in the past,
and they still become pretty ugly on occasion.

Tammany hall may have been cleaned up, and Boss
Tweed is long dead. But the basic system of local
bosses, the political machine which is fueled by
graft at all levels, still exists. Google John O'Hara, if
you want to hear a minor horror story about what
can happen when someone tries to buck the system.

In a way the Rovians and the modern Republican party
are very much the descendants of the nineteenth century
urban bosses, on a national level, with the exception
that they have no inclination to do a damn thing
to help anyone except their highest level supporters.
The local bosses at least helped the people in
the neighborhoods of the cities that they ran, and carried
out some major beneficial projects, like building the
Brooklyn bridge. In return for direct help to the
massive immigrant populations, which could come
in the form of money, shelter, work, they got
their votes permanently, and were then free to
live high by bilking the taxpayers on all the
public works projects.

But the Kerry letter is very good news ... I'ld say
it signals he is going to start intervening
actively in the legal battles we will see over the
recount. I will start jumping up and down if the
Arnebeck filing goes forward, something comes out,
and the Kerry team jumps on that bandwagon.

But the mere fact of Kerry taking a more active part
can take a lot of pressure off of the less
well funded glib lawyers.

It will also focus much wider attention on the story.
With the Greene County lockdown, the Arnebeck fraud
filing, the EC vote, the Conyers hearings, tomorrow
really should be a very big day news-wise. If it
doesn't hit the MSM now, I'm going to be in despair.

Get ready for a wild ride!

[EFerrari]

15. Translation: "We're in a really messed up position. We may be toast."

You can always read these people by what they deny (it's true), by what they assert (it is opposite, cf "leave no child behind, health forrests, clear skies) and what they say about other people (usually straight projection: they accuse others of their own condition or actions).

[klyon]

20. I have noticed that too

they are paper thin

KL

[proudbluestater]

17. I discussed this exact line in another thread, and let me just say

FUCK YOU, LOPARO. "The state law will guide counties on how to conduct the recount."

Hmmm, does the state provide for Mr. Blackwell's PUBLIC office to be housed in a private building?

Does state law provide for the ejection of recount workers from the precincts they are attempting to recount?

Does state law provide the SOS to stonewall and obstruct justice?

I want these MFers to get ARRESTED for this shit.

I am tired of us being "nice." We deliver our letters, we file our lawsuits, we quietly ask, "Please, sir, might I have some more?" and the legal system fails us.

Where ARE the police in Ohio????? They should be making arrests, pressing charges and prosecuting. This should have also been done in Florida. I am sick to death of the double standard in this country where if you are a Repuke you can thumb your nose at the law.

[henslee]

18. I always read posts that begin FUCK YOU LOPARO. nt

[Twist_U_Up]

19. yea me too lol ...nt