Go Keith, Going after Blackwell!! What the hell is going on,

[KerryReallyWon]

And running out the clock.

[impeachthescoundrel]

1. I think we know exactly

what is going on! That is the best newscast I have seen on prime time in years.

Bye bye.:toast:

[Higans]

10. Is E-Voting ME-Voting?

Is E-Voting ME-Voting?

I can't figure it out can you?

How exactly do you Visually inspect a vapor vote? Do they even count at all???????? if so, Please prove it..... We are sorry, but We the People Don't believe you any more. You have lied to us once to often.

[AntiFascist]

2. I'm so glad MSnbc gave this so much coverage tonight, BUT....

why did Howard Fineman play down the news saying it would not make mainstream coverage and KO indicate it was very unlikely that both a Senator and a Representative would take up this issue, AND WHY THE HELL didn't they even mention the Curtis testimony?????!!!!! Perhaps protecting the integrity of Windows overrides everything else.

[jamboi]

3. Fineman did finish with a stirring statement about how millions of us want

to know what happened. That was a big plus I thought because he's been kinda non-commital so far.

[New Earth]

4. TOO BAD, i'm tired of him

i'm writing to Keith right now to tell him to stop having him on.
not that he'll listen but i'm so mad i need to vent somewhere.

[DireStrike]

8. I am so sick of Fineman.

He strikes me as the type who believes that "the center" is the midpoint between the Ds and Rs, no matter how far to the right they both are. He's always cold water on the argument, a 'hush-hush citizen, go back to sleep... nothing wrong here' sort of guy.

[corbett]

16. You're Right! Howard Has Been Mr. Milquetoast

In my experienced, when pressed and asked repeatedly, Howard Fineman often comes up with the right answer eventually.

[corbett]

17. You're Right! Howard Has Been Mr. Milquetoast

In my experience, if pressed and asked repeatedly, Howard Fineman often comes up with the right answer after a while.

[MelissaB]

5. He may not have mentioned it because of

something like this.

>>snip

Some details of Curtis' statements don't check out. West Palm Beach city didn't use touch-screen machines in 2000, something Curtis didn't know when Wired News spoke to him. It was the pregnant chad controversy in that year's presidential election that led Palm Beach county, where West Palm Beach resides, to replace its much-maligned punch-card system with touch-screen machines made by Sequoia Voting Systems in December 2001.

But Curtis said the program could have been adapted for use in the counting software used with punch-card machines and optical scan machines, or it could have been used on the new touch-screen machines in 2002, the year Feeney was elected to Congress.

Adam Stubblefield, a graduate student in computer science at Johns Hopkins University who co-authored a now-famous report (.pdf) about Diebold's voting machine code last year, thinks the chances that Curtis' code was used in a voting machine are nil.


http://michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=576

[pleiku52cab]

9. Curtis doesn't claim use

just being asked to set up a 'test' system. If a nut like Feeney was trying this on his own with 'local talent', just think about what KKKarl and his minions were doing. No, never mind - you don't have to really think about it. We all saw it in action in this FRAUDULENT election.

[AntiFascist]

12. Thanks for the info, but THAT'S NOT THE BIG STORY!!!!!

what the media should be reporting is that a programmer, under sworn testimony before Congressional reps, has alleged that a member of Congress hired him to write software that would corrupt a national election. That is the big news which is not being reported.

After watching the video, Curtis doesn't strike me as someone who would just waltz up to the Judiciary Committee and lie to them. Even if he did, shouldn't this still make the evening news, or at least KO's countdown show?

What's up with Michael Moore? He's trying to get us to focus on promoting F911, instead of election fraud, so that he can win an Academy Award?

[Viktor Runeberg]

14. Precisely!

A Congressman (then head of the Florida Legislature and before that on a statewide ticket with Jeb Bush) hired a contractor which does major work for NASA to design a system to hack the vote. This is small in only the same way the Watergate burglary was small. It's the sort of loose thread that, pulled, will unravel a much larger garment of deception.

The main thing blocking a full, multi-state hunt for vote hacking is the belief that "They'd never do that!" (This of folks who did all sorts of illegal shit to keep blacks from successfully voting - never mind that, it was blacks....) This flips it to a story of "They did, indeed, start down that crooked path. How far did they get?"

Once you flip the character question. Once you get everyone asking, "He really did hire burglars ... how far would he go," then the public's caught up in the story and the momentum of interest will carry it through.

Burglary - nah national politicians wouldn't go that low. Hacking the vote - nah national politicians wouldn't go that low. But once we, the people, see that we're wrong in the assumption, that they would, that they'd burgle our office or home, that they'd steal our vote, it causes a painful sense of violation, proportional to our feeling beforehand that they'd never do it.

[operafred]

15. kick

excellent point!

[operafred]

18. kick

quoting your post: what the media should be reporting is that a programmer, under sworn testimony before Congressional reps, has alleged that a member of Congress hired him to write software that would corrupt a national election. That is the big news which is not being reported. unquote


i would think that it may take a little time for it to sink in that it IS big news indeed, but it is bound to happen.

[BlueDog2u]

20. Right on

That kind of a "hole" doesn't damage Curtis' credibility one bit, as far as I'm concerned. He never claimed his prototype was used for anything, only that it was a prototype designed, at Congressman Feeneys' request, to rig the vote! That's a huge friggin' story.

:yourock:

[Gregster]

7. I missed it!

What happenned?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

11. They didn't mention Cobb's testimony either.

[Gregster]

6. I missed it

What happenned?

[crispini]

13. See the big thread with the play by play

Titled "Keith O is on this."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x152288

[Gregster]

19. Thank you!

I'll check it out.