From LBN: Feeney implicated in vote fraud

[sabra]

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http://www.seminolechronicle.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/12/16/41c2fd
b042ea1

Feeney implicated in vote fraud
Congressman sought to alter totals, testimony in Ohio case says
By Alex Babcock | December 16, 2004

Republican Congressman Tom Feeney of Oviedo asked a computer programmer in September 2000, prior to that year's contested presidential vote in Florida, to write software that could alter vote totals on touch-screen voting machines, the programmer said.

Former computer programmer Clint Curtis made the claim Monday in sworn testimony to Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee investigating allegations of voter fraud in the 2004 presidential election involving touch-screen voting in Ohio.

In his testimony, Curtis said that Feeney, then a member of the Florida House of Representative, met with Curtis and other employees of Yang Enterprises, an Oviedo software company, and asked if the company could create a program that would allow a user to alter the vote totals while using the touch-screen machine. The program had to be written so that even the human-readable computer code would not show its illicit capabilities, Curtis recalled.
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[New Earth]

1. here's the direct link to the story

http://www.seminolechronicle.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/12/16/41c2fdb042ea1


and a big :puke: for the use of 'voter fraud'

[sabra]

13. Why the puke animation? n/t

[Kota]

14. I think we liek to call it election fraud. Voters did nothing wrong.

[sabra]

15. I hear you, but

seeing the word Feeney and Fraud in the same sentence makes me :bounce:

[New Earth]

57. just that use of 'voter fraud' pet peeve i have. sorry

[Name removed]

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[Hand]

83. Uh huh...

Enjoy your tombstone, freeper.

[sabra]

2. "Feeney could not be reached for comment."

It's getting interesting...

[tsuki]

69. Probably praying. Always presents himself as a good Xian.

[atldem]

3. If this guy is telling

the truth then he will need a lot of light on him or he will disappear. I'm sure he will get discredited pretty quickly tho.

[sabra]

18. Or maybe rephrase it to?

they will try to discredit him...

[bunny planet]

33. or put him in agrave with his dog.

:scared: :scared: :scared:

[shiina]

4. wow

They didn't call us nutcases! A pretty fair article, I think.

[EMunster]

5. Curtis says it all:"Coming forward isn't the problem, it's people caring."

[sabra]

6. I know several people who care... n/t

[IndyPriest]

7. And Yang is now trying to distance itself from Feeney! Hah! n/t

[tandem5]

8. have the love MSM's response time nt

[sabra]

9. This is also being reported in Feeney's old county... n/t

[EMunster]

10. Writer and Reporter might appreciate wider story - contact info --

Alex Babcock,editor -- [e-mail]
Michelle Yoffee-Beard, reporter -- [e-mail]


Other contact info here:

http://www.seminolechronicle.com/vnews/display.v/ART/41102b4165182

[Quakerfriend]

16. Kickedy, kick! Go get 'um!

:evilgrin:

[sabra]

11. Rotating Banner - Ironic Link

When I visited the page, this link came up on the banner rotation:
"Thank You, President Bush: Reflections on the War on Terror, Defense of the Family, and Revival of the Economy" (
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0974670111/103-2859738-4058266)

Kinda Ironic?

[dobegrrrl]

19. Check the authors and editors

YUCK
:puke:

[sabra]

20. Indeed! But funny/ironic that it came up over the heading...

"Feeney implicated in vote fraud"

[Alizaryn]

12. Thats a great article. I hope Feeney has a nice Chrstmas.

[Shalom]

17. Text of Story for convenience & readability:

Feeney implicated in vote fraud
Congressman sought to alter totals, testimony in Ohio case says
By Alex Babcock
December 16, 2004

Republican Congressman Tom Feeney of Oviedo asked a computer programmer in September 2000, prior to that year's contested presidential vote in Florida, to write software that could alter vote totals on touch-screen voting machines, the programmer said.

Former computer programmer Clint Curtis made the claim Monday in sworn testimony to Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee investigating allegations of voter fraud in the 2004 presidential election involving touch-screen voting in Ohio.

-snip-

EDITED BY ADMIN FOR COPYRIGHT REASONS

[AmerDem]

22. you better delete this post

This is against copyright laws and DU rules. No more then 4 paragraphs with a link back to the article.

[Moderator]

23. Shalom when posting copyrighted articles please remember DU rules.

Excerpts from copyrighted materials are limited to four paragraphs and must contain a link to the original article.

Thanks.

Moderator

[AmerDem]

21. nice

slowly the word is getting out.

[ooglymoogly]

26. there is a cold deadly breeze in roves machiavellian house of cards

whoooooooooosssshshsh...blow cold wind blow

[hfojvt]

24. my first thought

is that T'Penga and the rest of the cast of "Boy Meets World" must be very disappointed.
Maybe I just watch too much TV.

[sabra]

25. Funny! I got it... :-) n/t

[Botany]

27. Move Along Their is NOTHING TO SEE Here ..... Move Along!

The MSM will bury this story. (An investigator for the State of Florida wound up
dead in Georgia when he looked into this. Curtis has had 2 of his dogs wind up dead
too. This is just part of the story and I have not seen it confirmed anywhere else.)
We have to make this story # 1 in cyber space so as to protect Curtis and see if the
MSM will touch this story.

:kick:

[raipoli]

28. Bradblog broke this story

www.bradblog.com broke this story ten days ago, and has totally refutted Yang's denials in a story two days ago. Last week, he met with Congresspersons and with Senator Nelson's staff, and gave interviews on Air America and the Tom Hartman radio show.
Monday, he testified before the Conyers' hearing in Ohio. Yesterday, Clint gave an interview to Der Speigel, and appeared on the Ed Schultz radio program. On Tuesday, Clint was interviewed by the FBI about this matter and yesterday 60 Minutes called him. Clint will be on www.radioinsidescoop.com on Sunday the 19th at 1 pm EST and will be taking calls. You can listen on the net. Next week Japan TV will be interviewing him, and lots of other things are happening. This is a breaking story and Bradblog is on top of it all.

[sabra]

29. Kick! Thanks for the updates... n/t

[katinmn]

32. Thanks. I posted that link to Brad's Blog a couple days ago

and was royally crucified by a bunch of know-it-alls. THey didn't even read his blog, just said it was "old" news.

Nice to be exhonerated.}(

[BlueDog2u]

42. Yes, and isn't it interesting

that Yang is now admitting that Curtis resigned. Previously they were claiming, or at least implying, that he had been terminated for cause. So Brad has done an excellent job of forcing them to be honeest about at least one critical element of the story which reflects on Curtis' credibility.

[BradBlog]

49. Thanks Raipoli...

...For the nice comments.

We'll have some coverage of some of the items you mentioned, and more...later tonight (or tomorrow latest!) And of course, continuing coverage of "Feeney in Crisis".

Our latest take on the Seminole Chronicle article is here:
http://bradblogtoo.blogspot.com/2004/12/feeneys-hometown-paper-covers.html

...As it includes a link to send Email to the Editor/Writer of the piece thanking him and encouraging him to press on (he is, after all in the heart of FeeneyVille!) I'd encourage you all to stop by and send Mr. Babcock a note of thanks and well-deserved praise for his courage in covering this story while so many are scared to death to touch it!

Brad
---
Brad Friedman
THE BRAD BLOG - The uprising continues...
http://www.BradBlog.com
*** SUPPLEMENTAL SITE ADDED TO HANDLE THE OVERLOAD!
http://BradBlogTOO.Blogspot.com

[tsuki]

70. Oh, Der Speigel...gut!

[henslee]

30. Wish this source was more than a local weekly.

[melissinha]

31. Principal Feeney would never do this

Yeah every tiome I hear of Feeney I think of Principal Feeney... He would NEVER have done this (well, if he were a real person) :)

[katinmn]

34. We can send the link to other media using Media Blast

think I will do that now........

[demo dutch]

35. Yes agreed, but I am stunned that this actually got picked up by a local

rag because the area north of Orlando are for the most part "red" voting counties. Maybe there's hope yet for the local media down here in Florida!

[The Backlash Cometh]

40. Honey, in Seminole County, that's all you got.

I suspect that the Seminole Chronicle is actually the Oviedo Voice. The paper said it serves Oviedo, Winter Springs Chuluota and Geneva. The paper has changed names when it's targeting certain areas. (For example, for a while it would print out the same paper under two different city names.)]

The other paper, the Seminole Herald is much older, but is not distributed well on the east side of Seminole County.

[henslee]

46. I could actually hear the tone of your voice as you wrote/said that.

Thanks for enlightening me. :)

[oviedo1]

72. Seminole Chronicle article

They are *not* owned by the Oviedo Voice. Call them...or
better yet, e-mail them from the article online...and they'll
tell you that they're a totally separate paper.

[The Backlash Cometh]

73. Thanks for the information.

[BradBlog]

78. SEND YOUR THANKS TO THE SEMINOLE CHRONICLE!

I've got a link to the pertinent Email addresses, and more information about why it's a good idea to let these guys know that we appreciate the coverage in my article at:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001061.htm

These guys filed this report at considerable risk since they are smack-dab in the heart of FeeneyVille down there! -- Let them know it's appreciated and you'd like to encourage them to do more!

The Email links are in the article linked above!

Whether they are a local weekly or not, their reports have *enormous* impact coming from where they do, and being available on the internet. Let 'em hear from you!

Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com

[BrotherBuzz]

36. I will be happy when implicated is changed to INDICTED!

[bunny planet]

37. Time to dig up 2000 stories about Feeney and have them ready to fire off.

I recall he was speaker of the house in the Florida legislature and was the one threatening a coup if there was a recount that showed Gore won, he threatened that the Republican controlled legislature would appoint send *'s electors to DC instead of Gore's even if the Florida Supreme Court ruling to count all the votes was honored. Feeney is such a dirtbag, it makes so much sense that he is implicated now retroactively.

[KerryReallyWon]

65. Articles on Feeney in 2000

There are many articles on Tom Feeney in the St. Petersburg Times. He was a very disrespectful official. To find the articles and put them up to the Curtis story, it will all make sense to the people. I am in Fla, and in 2000, he was the official in Jeb's circle that made me the craziest! Very defiant. Many special sessions, and he was threatened with jail. Feeney responded the next day by going to work with a toothbrush in his pocket and wearing a conductor hat. He was the leader, and he made fun of the jail threat. In the meantime, the special sessions cost the Fla taxpayers $40,000 a day. He was the worst. As maddening as he was, it was actually worse, as the Curtis affidavit shows. Feeney is a really bad guy. Look it up all up at www.stpetersburgtimes.com

Kerry Backwatch

[jackster]

38. finally the word is starting to get out.....

oh happy day!!!!!

[Boo]

39. This story was in a Danish newspaper over a week ago...

has it only reached the American press now??

[Doctor O]

41. Implicated in what? There needs to be a crime in order

for their to be fraud. Nothing in this article even hints that actual fraud was committed. In addition in 2000 these touch screen voting machines were not being used.

Wild eyed speculation like this is why DUers and others are being called Tin Foil hats. If we read carefully and understand what is being said, we have a better chance of being taken seriously.

Even a Lawyer in Nashua NH, should have known better when he speculated on the fact that the judge did not know what the complaint stated. when he read the correct document which was provided him by several members of this forum, then he retracted his story and admitted his mistake. However, if we want credibility stick to the facts and speculation.

We also have no real "proof" that fraud was committed, only indications which to date have not been proven at least in this forum. We who claim to be defending democracy should also strive to protect the Constitution and the Bill of rights, one of which is that People are Innocent until proven guilty. The rantings of stealing, name calling, fraud do not help anyone's case if we can not be taken seriously. While it is less fulfilling to say alleged fraud or suspected fraud and it does not make as big headlines, until concrete evidence has been presented it will still be alleged or suspected.


While there is probably much we can blame Blackwell for please attempt to understand the laws he is trying to follow, not what we want the laws to be. He can not change the laws. He also has a staff of lawyers who are advising him and he is taking the steps advised by them in their interpretation of the law. Again I say this because if we rant and rave about things that we are not educated on how can we expect to be taken seriously.

Lets be responsible.

[BlueDog2u]

43. Curtis' story is proof, or least credible evidence

Of a conspiracy to commit fraud. It is not proof that fraud was actually committed. But establishing convincing evidence of the intent is an important link in the argument that fraud may have actually been committed, and even if it was not, aren't the actions described by Curtis, in themselves, illegal?

[Doctor O]

44. Did Curtis fix an election

or simply write purportedly write a program which was not used?
If it was not used in a crime, then it is not a crime. If it was people who stage robberies in the movie would be guilty of the crime itself. No simply writing a piece of code is not a crime. And there is some suspicion as to whether he in fact wrote it or not.

[BlueDog2u]

47. Yes, but asking someone to create code for the purpose of election

fraud would be a crime, wouldn't it? I, personally, have no suspicion that Curtis is telling the truth, and that he did write the code at Feeney's request and that the purpose was to create a prototype of a program that would be used to perpetrate fraud. Curtis has never claimed knowledge that the prototype was applied. But I still believe Feeney's alleged actions, if they are true, must constitute a crime of some kind. Your statement suggests an intent to ignore the seriousness of Curtis' accusation. Why would you want to do this?

[Doctor O]

48. How could it be a crime?

Did Curtis have knowledge that Feeney was going to use this in an election? If so I believe he would have stated it. To use an analogy, I can dream and plan of robbing a bank, but not have an intent to rob the bank. I may even be doing it to see if it is possible to see if I could prevent such a crime.

However, we do not know that, if the allegations made are true, that there it was ever used on intended to be used.

I run a software company, and yes it could be done. But if I was going to do something like this I would not use any established company, I would go find a professional free lance hacker to do it for me. However to do it successfully I would have to have the source code for the program in order to write an effective program and test it. Simply having the program does me little good. Even hacking a database can be substantial work and i would have to have access to the database itself in order to understand the database structure and how to hack it.

Actually writing the code is simple once I can read and understand the source code, and understand the database structure. But I still would have to access to source and database structure and fields in order to be successful.

Access to source code is extremely tough, companies protect this as if it was Fort Knox and will not release it to anyone since it is highly proprietary and releasing it would be giving away their source of revenue and an asset to the company.

Decompiling source code can be done, but it is a tough task.

[The Backlash Cometh]

50. Probable cause? Reasonable doubt?

[Doctor O]

52. Aha

This is a different story, yes if Curtis story is true then there may be probable cause to start continue an investigation, but probable cause does not implicate someone, only proof a crime may.
But with 20 years in the software industry and based on the story, I do am suspicious of Curtis story on the surface. Could it be done, yes, did he have the source code and understand how it worked in order to hack the database I doubt it.

[BEdasein]

60. first things first

respectfully,

the MSM have not been adequately shining the light on this story. we don't need to have 'proof of a crime' right now. we don't need to prosecute those involved today. we need for there to be light brought to this issue. once there is light we can sift through the speculation.

curtis testified in front of the democrats on the judiciary committee. under oath. we understand that this doesn't prove that he's telling the truth, but it does warrant light...

BE

[BlueDog2u]

53. Come again

"However, we do not know that, if the allegations made are true, that there it was ever used on intended to be used."

What are you trying to say?

Your analogy to the dream is not relevant. Conspiring to commit a crime is a crime, at least under certain circumstances covered by RICO and possibly other statutes. Its not the same thing as dreaming about a crime, because it involves an act of the will. The question is whether what transpired between Curtis, Feeney, and Yang Inc., falls under those statutes. Perhaps it does not. But even if it doesn't, Curtis' affidivat constitutes evidence of an ethics violation which, in a sane world, would be sufficient to remove Congressman Feeney from office. Moreover, anyone who has followed this case with any attention is aware that the vote fraud conspiracy is only one element of a whole constellation of ethical violations in which Feeney and Yang are implicated.

I, for one, hope and expect Feeney to do go down big for this. What do you think?

[Doctor O]

56. I think Curtis is looking for his 15 minutes of fame. I truly believe he

is lying. His story just does not hold water from a technical standpoint.

should have read "that it was used or ever intended to be used"

If there was no intent to commit a crime, then there is no crime.

[New Earth]

58. you don't seem to believe anything going on is real

what world are you living in?

[BlueDog2u]

64. Welcome to DU

You can believe anything you want. Its a free country.

However, it's clear you haven't been following the story. No one who has followed Curtis' statements since the start could agree with your presumptions. On every particular for which verification has been possible, Curtis' story checks out. It is one thing to be skeptical. But you have no basis to form the conclusion you have formed. It is just a prejudice -- a pre-judgement, based on assumptions which at this time lack any shred of verification. Belief is not a basis for forming a conclusion about anything of this importance.

Enjoy your stay at DU. But please don't try to delude your readers with inappropriate analogies or pretend that your belief is a basis for them to formulate a conclusion.

[Botany]

74. Oh no Dr. Oh

Why do I smell troll all over you. Are you wearing Mr. Rove's for men
Old troll's spice?

[The Backlash Cometh]

75. ???

He gave testimony to what he saw. Nothing more, nothing less.

[BradBlog]

77. Doctor O - You're just plain wrong...

Doctor O said...

"I think Curtis is looking for his 15 minutes of fame. I truly believe he is lying."

Okay...and what evidence do you have for *either* of those charges? Since everything that we've checked into concerning his story goes back -- with paper trail -- for about 3 years at least and checks out, so far, completely.

"His story just does not hold water from a technical standpoint."

Of course it does. What part of it doesn't?

Aside from *telling* us it doesn't "hold water from a technical standpoint" you offer zero reason for your assertion. Several articles on the matter have confirmed that his story in fact, *does* hold water from a technical standpoing.

I can only assume, therefore, you are interested in simply discrediting the story for whatever reason. But certainly not due to the FACTS of the case that we know so far.

If there was no intent to commit a crime, then there is no crime.

Right. But in this case, there *was* intent to commit a crime.

Go read up on the story instead of simply hoping to discredit it here with unsupported statements. If, after reading the FACTS you come to the same conclusion, please feel free to let us all know why as BASED ON THE FACTS of the case!

Thanks!

Brad
THE BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com

[Doctor O]

80. His own testimony makes me suspicious

In order to hack the code he needed access to the source code of the computer program in order to insert the code. He does not mention how he got access to extremely proprietary source code of whichever voting machine company he is speaking. If he did get access to it, he has just implicated himself in a crime since Source Code is highly proprietary and the IT rights of the company who owned it would have been violated by Curtis even by him looking at the source code.

Back to how did he get access to the source code:

1. He admitted himself he did not have the skills to reverse compile a program into its source code and would have taken a much larger organization such as MIT who could MAYBE decompile the source code.

2. How did he get access to the source code: This is not Open Source this proprietary source code which is not released even to companies buying the application and in the cases where it is, it would be held in escrow yo be used only in very specific circumstances. and in most cases 1. where the company goes out of business 2. If and when they stop support and maintenance of the program.

During the course of my career I have reviewed and negotiated software application licenses, with the assistance of intellectual property lawyers, both for my company and for our clients. And we protect our software as the lifeblood of our company. If we released it one or our competitors could copy it and steal our secrets.

In his testimony, Curtis first said he had not knowledge of the Ohio polls and the questions on them, but yet later in the same testimony said that based on the exit polls, the actual vote must have been wrong.

Twenty years of working in software, managing software developers, program architecture tells me he is not telling the full truth.

Now could programs be written yes. Could they be undetectable, yes, but I do not think Curtis was the one to do it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

81. I don't mean to be rude, but...

Many people have already pointed out to you that Curtis was only involved with a proto-type, made at Feeney's request. The purpose, he thought, was because Feeney wanted to see the feasibility of black box tampering. It was an idea that Curtis dismissed because there were too many variables that had to take place before it could happen. Curtis was not involved with the actual tampering, if any occurred. He never said he was. But he grew suspicious when all the unlikely variables that he never believed would occur in a presidential election, occurred. Those variables included: no paper ballots, not examination of the source code. He expected the Democrats to do a competent adverserial job of challenging the Republican controlled ballot system. But they didn't. Which is making me suspect that there is something very, very wrong with the Dem leadership.

[The Backlash Cometh]

68. I'm saddened that all this is transpiring in my backyard,

but also feel vindicated. There were a lot of things that seemed out of whack in this county, but what was the most disturbing thing is that I felt like I was the only one bothered by it all. Sure, I found some who wanted to investigate the same people I did, but their purposes were different than my own. They would have stepped into the void and just proceeded doing the same kind of things for their own personal gain. Where I remembered something which seemed forgotten long ago: The public interest. You can't build good communities without trust. Trust can be faked if you have a group of ignorant people around you, but as long as your intentions are not good, the seams will begin to fray as your misdeeds start to produce tangible evidence of foul play.

So, I take no pleasure that it is Feeney that may be the first domino to fall, but I am relieved that we are finally achieving some headway in driving to the truth.

[BradBlog]

76. Conspiracy to Commit Vote Fraud IS a crime...

Doctor O asked:

"Did Curtis have knowledge that Feeney was going to use this in an election?"

Yes.

If so I believe he would have stated it.

He did. Read the original story and Curtis' affidavit. Links respectively:

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001024.htm
...and...
http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/12/images/CC_Affidavit_120604.pdf

Brad
THE BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com

[fearnobush]

51. Wild eyed - a * Chaney 04 campaign term used to suppress truth.

Sorry - I refuse to use Chimp terminology.

[sepia_steel]

54. OH PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE

Blackwell is blatantly hiding things and BREAKING laws. He has attorneys who are PAID to protect him. They are about as biased as it gets. So is Blackwell. Conflict of interest EVERYWHERE. If Blackwell didn't do anything wrong, and if nothing bad happened, why won't he let people set everyone's mind at ease and COUNT THOSE BALLOTS? Why won't he let people see PUBLIC records?

I am ignoring you, Doctor O. This is about as high on the BS meter as it gets.

[progressoid]

45. Nice but...

We've been seeing this for the last few weeks and somone always says something like, "The story is starting to break" or "the MSM is taking notice". But realistically, I think we're doomed. Politicians simply refuse chose to ignore it. And the judicial system is asleep.

I was going to say we need a watergate moment for this to break open. But in today's political world, a crime like watergate is like jaywalking. We need something much bigger than that, but we aren't seeing that happening.

Apathy among the media combined with the corruption of the system has put a few more nails in our collective coffin.

[tsuki]

71. We are a 30 minute sitcom society now. Watergate took two years.

[caligirl]

55. Feeney backround from project vote smart

Professional Experience:
Attorney, Fowler, Barice, Feeney, & O'Quinn PA, 1990-Present
Attorney, General Counsel, Julian Consolidated, 1986-1990
Attorney, Fowler, Williams, & North, 1984-1985

Political Experience:
Representative, United States House of Representatives, 2002-present
Represenatative/Speaker, Florida State House of Representatives, 1990-1994, 1996-2002
Elected to State House in a special election, April 1996
Seminole County Legislative Delegation Chair, 1996
International Republican Institute Ambassador to Macedonian Government, 1995
Candidate for Lieutenant Governor, Bush/Feeney, 1994
Chair, Orange County Legislative Delegation, 1993.

Organizations:
American Legislative Exchange Council National Education Task Force, 1992 -1994
City of Light Business Leadership Council
Board of Directors, Cornerstone Inc. Distribution Center
Member, East Orange Chamber of Commerce
Former Florida Chair, Empowerment Network
Former Director, James Madison Institute Board of Directors
Board of Directors, Mosley's High-Tech Tutoring
Board of Directors, OIA Kidsway Inc.
Orange and Seminole County Republican Executive Committee
Member, Oviedo Chamber of Commerce
Member, Sanford Chamber of Commerce
Member, Southwest Volusia Chamber of Commerce.

[The Backlash Cometh]

62. Notice the number of Chamber of Commerces.

Why isn't his membership to the Federalist Society not included? I thought he was a member?

[The Backlash Cometh]

66. Wow. A double negative.

In more ways than one.

[imenja]

59. Have the major papers picked this up?

This is a bombshell. Has anyone seen it elsewhere?

[The Backlash Cometh]

67. The hoopla (now yesterday)

is that the weekly picked it up. I haven't looked at the papers today, but if it's in line with the past, you won't hear much of a bleep. Certainly won't be first page news until they convict him. :eyes:

[HootieMcBoob]

84. I can't find anything anwhere

nothing in the msm

http://news.google.com/news?q=%22clint%20curtis%22&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wn

[Terre]

61. At the whoseflorida.com website

a compilation of news articles (LOTS of them) back in 2002 relating to Feeney entitled Speaker Feeney not welcomed at home that you might find interesting reading. 

http://www.whoseflorida.com/central_florida.htm#Speaker%20Feeney%20not%20welcome%20at%20home

Enjoy

[Ryder911]

79. Here's a link to his testimony....

home.comcast.net/~clotheshorse1967/video/curtis121304.wmv

[seito]

63. Do YOU know how to spot the enemy

Mr. Feeney, what are you hiding???