"Ohio Supreme Court Could Begin Ruling on Presidential Election Challenge"

[EMunster]

Ohio Supreme Court Could Begin Ruling on Presidential Election Challenge

Monday, December 20, 2004

This could be the week that Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice Tom Moyer makes a ruling that could at least BEGIN to answer a legal question with world-wide implications --- Will President George W. Bush's election victory in Ohio be allowed to stand?

Ohio Public Radio's Bill Cohen reports:


link to the stream:
http://www.wksu.org/news/story/17888

Must say this guy's report is not very fair to the suit. Says legal experts expect Moyer just to toss it out.

[KaliTracy]

1. there have been responses to WMUB on their

feedback site complaining about his lack of objectivity regarding covering the events in Ohio -- they sent the complaints to him as he reports from the State News site.

[bones_7672]

2. I think many of us HERE expect Moyer to just toss it out. n/t

[Botany]

3. What will happen

Justice Moyer will look at the case and see if it has been filed properly

He and his brethren will look at the case as it relates to Ohio case law

He and his brethren will look to see if the spirt of the actions resulted in the people's
right to have their vote counted negated.

He and his brethren will see if any Constitutional questions are in play.

He will then get a call from Bennett (head of the Ohio GOP) and drop the
case because he says it will lack merit.

[EMunster]

4. I think so too. The Hocking farce was for that reason. Not sure what

...Arnebeck's plan is, but I believe he's counting on Moyer's tossing it.

[SharifromOregon]

8. So, if Moyers tosses out Arnebeck's case...

what then is Arnebeck's recourse?

[Alizaryn]

16. I believe then he can appeal to the "whole" court to look

at it?

[plmbch60]

5. any bets????

[txindy]

6. It won't happen in the Ohio courts

It'll happen in Congress. On January 6th. Tune in. You're going to be amazed. You probably won't enjoy it, though. But I will.

[FogerRox]

7. Jan 6th--Yeah I'm thinking that too--

Thats why there are protests being organized around that date.
SO I'm with you on the potential importance of that date.

BIGTIME

http://www.51capitalmarch.com/
If youre in the NYC area
UMMMmmm front page--call to action #2.


2. Picket ABC, CBS, and NBC news studios in NYC: Now until January 6th
Picket at 8:00-9:00AM, the lunch hour, and 4:00-5:00PM
Now until January 6th. MAKE A SIGN AND SHOW UP!

If you're in the Dc area call to action #5


http://www.51capitalmarch.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?boar ...

I'm coordinating the NYC effort, got a question----
[e-mail]

[SharifromOregon]

9. So, if not in the Ohio courts...and if it Congress....on January 6th...

I'm tuning in...what DO you think may happened that causes you to say "you're going to be amazed. You probably won't enjoy it, though. But I will." ?

[txindy]

12. There's going to be a Constitutional 'crisis'

I'd call it a challenge. A challenge to the republicans to stand up for the law and for the truth. The evidence of the fraud will be presented to them and they will be asked to vote on whether to accept the fraudulent election results. There are a few posters here who won't like either the evidence or those who present it. They're quite happy with Junior as pResident.

When C-Span covers these proceedings live, they'll have the highest ratings of their existence.

[IndyPriest]

23. I'm on the same trail.

I've always thought Arnebeck's plan is to lay down little bread crumbs for the OH Supreme Court to bite, expose itself, and open the door for the U.S. SC to rule on the validity of the OH election. My bet is, it will rule it fraudulent, will order OH SoS to send new (Kerry) electors, so that on Jan. 6 the republican senate will be forced either to expose itself as backing fraud or voting to elect Kerry.

Am I close?

[TexasChick]

24. Wow! Sounds very convincing! I hope you are right on this one. I know

you still have faith, txindy, but I'm afraid I don't have much, so I'm going to live vicariously through you and your great energy towards the cause! :hug:

And yes, I know exactly who the blatant Freeptards on this board are who will be upset if this comes to fruition.

[bones_7672]

25. It really won't be a crisis.

congress will follow the constitution and at the end of the day bush/cheney will be re-elected, but instead of by the vote of the people it will be by the vote of the repub-controlled house and senate.

[IndyOp]

29. I know I'll be glued to the tube...

I'm not sure if classes will have started by then or not, but even if it is the first day of classes -- I'll cancel them.

If I could be sure of a seat in the Joint Session -- I'd go to DC for sure. Maybe I'll go to DC and glue myself to the TV during the session and then head for the streets afterwards (provided the National Guard aren't patrolling).

I wish I could be as sure as you are that really, really, really, really rock solid evidence of fraud will be presented. :scared:

:kick:

[shiina]

10. appeal to Ohio Supreme Court

Arnebeck said in the recent interview on American Dream Radio that

1. They will probably "make an issue" of the judge because they have "some concerns about".

2. "Conclusions of law" are appealable to the Ohio Supreme Court.

3. Unless there was a violation of the constitution or it is a matter of national interest, the US Supreme Court would not normally accept a case. But, they could make a discretionary appeal.

If they win, the Repubs could take it to the SC, or if they lose, they could try to take it to the SC.

4. He believes there will be leaders from both parties to step forward and congress will take action.

[FogerRox]

13. Look at #4--if there Peeps in the streets protesting

And the HOuse and Senate end up voting for President--which one is going to vote for BUSh with Peeps about to knock on Doors?

Who the frig is going to vote for Bush when they all have to pass a million Peeps on the way to Congress that day?
March On DC Tell them we aint buyin what BUSH is selling--intimidate them into voting the right way---the way of the truth-

-BUSH LOST---YOu know it--we know it--SO whats your problem?

Thats why there are protests being organized around that date.

http://www.51capitalmarch.com /
If youre in the NYC area
UMMMmmm front page--call to action #2.


2. Picket ABC, CBS, and NBC news studios in NYC: Now until January 6th
Picket at 8:00-9:00AM, the lunch hour, and 4:00-5:00PM
Now until January 6th. MAKE A SIGN AND SHOW UP!

If you're in the Dc area call to action #5

Scroll down to the NJ page--
http://www.51capitalmarch.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?boar ...

I'm coordinating the NYC effort, got a question----
[e-mail]

[bones_7672]

26. If you think the repub-controlled house & senate WONT vote for Bush

then you don't know politicians very well. protesters outside (and don't forget, it'll be early january, well into winter) won't make a difference to anyone but the evening news, and by evening it'll all be over, bush/cheney re-elected.

[anamandujano]

28. They have to worry about being "re-elected"

so it's possible that if it starts looking like the cheating machines will be taken out of the equation, they will have to look good to their constituents. A big "if", granted.

Repukes suck. Maybe they should think about how history will shame their great grandchildren and beyond.

[zann725]

17. If I understand Arnebeck's first Complaint correctly...

Moyer HAS to recuse himself, due to conflict-of-interest. Since the election results of Moyer's appointment to C.J. are also being challenged.
Plus Arnebeck has also for the last few years done litigation about illegal corporate funding into Ohio Supreme Court appointments. So if my understanding of Arnebeck's position on this case is correct, he MAY be able to contest the votes of nearly all Ohio S.C. judges on this case...thereby ruling Ohio Supreme Court entirely unable to rule on the case.

[bones_7672]

27. Moyer will recuse himself in the suit he's mentioned, but not in the

one that deals with Bush.

[lthuedk]

11. Then Moyer would be complicit in the cover-up and should be

disbarred.

[Carl Brennan]

22. How about "impeached"?

[KingoftheJungle]

14. Let us all not forget

that Moyers and at least one other Ohio Supreme court judge were fraudulently elected, along with senator Dewine, with the help of George Voinovich and the fringe religious movement that the neo cons, voting machine and database company executives, and Blackwell are all a part of. It is absolutely essential that Arnebeck get these judges to recuse themselves before the whole case is put in jeopardy. Information is being sent to him today regarding this matter.

Hey if anyone knows William Pitt's email address, please send it to me at [e-mail]

[KingoftheJungle]

18. Information now available

For anyone with media contacts or involvement in the mainstream fraud movement, I have documentaion now available regarding this matter. This is the same copy of the full letter sent to Arnebeck earlier this morning. If you want a copy, please email me. I would prefer to keep discussion of this document out of full public view ATM, so keep it confined to email for the time being.

[liam97]

19. If you really have what you say

please don't put it on email.

[KingoftheJungle]

20. It is all in a big word document...

There is no way I can fit even a quarter of it in its own thread. Besides, I want to give Arnebeck and investigative types a little time to read and research it before freepers get a hold of the information. Certain documents and information sources have been purged from the internet as soon as it was known we had a hold of it, so I do not want to risk more pages being changed/deleted before this investigation matures.

[liam97]

21. yes best not to circulate

let Arnebeck look at it

[Quakerfriend]

15. Txindy, where are you?

Please, tell us more!:shrug:

[txindy]

30. You don't need me to tell you anything

You've seen all the info. that I've seen on this board. You've heard John Kerry's message to us. We've only seen what's been made public by both sides. That's been enough to convince so many of us that massive fraud has taken place. Approx. 20% of the country believes it. I can only imagine the evidence that we haven't seen, but that I'm certain quiet, professional investigations have unearthed. If John Conyers is promising that he has more than one senator to stand up with him on Jan. 6th as he did in an interview linked here yesterday, I can picture a very strong case being created. One that will be presented to us when the time is right and that time is coming.