Kerry to enter Fray - What it means.

[shiina]

This *is* a big deal. Moyer just said they weren't going to go to any special lengths to protect the machines, which means we could have lost lots of direct, hard evidence. He also said they weren't going to expedite, which put us on very bad footing, time-wise.

This anything can get us a REAL, TIMELY investigation, this ought to be it.

Q: Will this have any affect on the Arnebeck suit? Or are they legally unconnected?

[pointsoflight]

1. I agree.

Kerry is doing this for the purpose of influencing Arnebeck's lawsuit--in particular, in hopes of getting it expedited.

[WilliamPitt]

2. They are legally unconnected

but it may well have a salutory effect.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

3. agree

This is a very big deal indeed. And I get a feeling that, good lawyer that he is, Kerry announced now because he was busy gathering evidence first. I hope Blackwell has his cell picked out.

[rox63]

He can get cell decorating tips from Martha Stewart n/t

[msongs]

4. nothing about this in the media...and where does Moyer say..

as in "Moyer just said............."?

Msongs
Riverside CA

[shiina]

7. In his reply to the Arnebeck lawsuit

[cyberpj]

8. Moyers denies an expedited hearing in the case - Raw Story

Thursday, December 23, 2004
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Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice Thomas J. Moyer, a Republican who was re-elected on the same ballot as President George W. Bush Nov. 2 but has declined to recuse himself from a suit contesting the president's election, issued a motion and procedural ruling today that denies an expedited hearing in the case and lays out the framework by which he might dismiss the case. RAW STORY acquired the ruling Wednesday afternoon.

In the ruling, displayed below, Moyer orders those contesting the election to answer two questions: (1) Whether the suit is moot because it was filed too late, and (2) Whether there is a legal significance in delaying the hearing until after Congress certifies the results of the electoral college Jan. 6, 2005.

Moyer had previously dismissed the first iteration of the suit—which also contested his own election—ruling that two elections could not be challenged in the same suit.

http://rawstory.rawprint.com/1204/moyers_delay_122204.php

[Karenca]

15. THAT'S FROM YESTERDAY EOM

[cyberpj]

19. And.......?

I believe it was still the answer to the question, no?

At any rate, the article was dated today - 12/23. Perhaps it was updated.

[Karenca]

20. ITS DIFFERENT TODAY BECAUSE.....

what Kerry filed shows that 'irrepairable (sp?) harm was involved towards his final vote tally, and the GLIBS could not produce the same criteria.
The irrep. harm opens the case.

[Freddie Stubbs]

22. Nothing about this on Kerry's website either...

http://www.johnkerry.com

[New Earth]

23. nothing they've done has been on their website

not the letters to Blackwell, them joining the other 2 lawsuits.....
they are keeping it on the d/l dude.

[Oversea Visitor]

5. There is your senator

For Jan 6th. Now all of the Dem must stand with him.
Time for you guys to get massive MASSIVE support on Jan 6th to back him up.
Frankly I think Kerry won by at least 56%.

[roenyc]

9. i think every one of us here

has sent letters to our senator and our Congress people. they are aware of how we feel. i know i have sent to mine and others. even to my republican house member. its just so damn important that they understand we are not going to sit back and let this happen. i also send them to my friends to sign.

We need to keep on top of them. we are much more organized then we were in 2000. and they know it. i think we will have to do something serious if we are not given support from our Representatives.

[read the law first]

6. Kerry re-intervenes in the re-filed suit.

Request for expedited hearing. Granted. Maybe.
Request for seizure of evidence. Denied.

You heard it here first.

[roenyc]

10. this is hopeless

the judge needs to be removed. there is conflict of interest. how can this be allowed. what am i not understanding here. how can this be allowed.

[TexasChick]

11. Well, I guess it's because we are living under a Repuketard Congress

who will do anything to protect the Chimp and all think that they do not have to adhere to the law.

[roenyc]

12. then its no longer a democracy!

and i would suggest someone do something fast. state that loud and clear on CNN or FOX or MSNBC - before its too late. this i making me crazy. i cant handle stupidity.

[TexasChick]

13. It hasn't been a democracy since 2000 and screaming to CNN, MSNBC,

and ESPECIALLY FOX will get you nowhere. It will clearly take a civil uprising to gain any attention and to make changes, like the Ukraine did.

[ahyums]

14. your speculation, or something you've heard? n/t

[read the law first]

21. informed speculation.

I was correct that the "limited revote" in North Carolina would not survive a court challenge as well.

But we'll see.

[seabeyond]

16. the supreme court stepped over line 2000

and the people allowed it. this is the ok for courts across the land to judge on party not law

[FogerRox]

17. If Kerry is standing up [e-mail]

[e-mail]

[seabeyond]

18. ?