Karl Rove to be subpoenaed in OHIO matters...yessss.....

[msongs]

the link to the ABC news item and as reported also in the Kansas City Star website (same article evidently)says:

"On Dec. 21, officials learned lawyers for the voters planned to issue subpoenas to several high-ranking officials, including Blackwell, Bush and the president's political adviser, Karl Rove, according to Petro."

No wonder Blackwell and his gang are trying to have this thing killed dead.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

edited to add the link: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=363968&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

[WilliamPitt]

1. Link?

[msongs]

3. link has been added.......eom

[GetTheRightVote]

2. This is getting interesting, oh right, Rove too, great news

:kick:

[zann725]

28. "What did he know? When did he know it? What are they hiding?"

Subpoena Kkkarl's cell phone, and WH modem/phone records - Nov 2 eve.!

[merh]

4. Maybe that damned video put out by the WH of Barney's

adventures at Christmas time with Rovey flippantly saying "Ohio, we have been to Ohio plenty of times" will come back and bite the bastard on his ass! I sure do hope so, boy I hope so!

[RevCheesehead]

8. Hope so. But I'd pay to see Barney bite Rove in the ass.

Barney: Ain't gonna take shit no more! I am not your corporate hound! I'm a damned Terrier!

[Pithy Cherub]

11. Rove's ass was my second option...

[RevCheesehead]

21. If you're thinkin' what I think you're thinkin'...

...I think your first option is a rather small target.

[Pithy Cherub]

27. start extremely small and build a repertoire of success...

His brain is not as big as everyone thinks... :evilgrin:

[RevCheesehead]

31. Brain?

I was thinking more of the "nether-region"

Oh, I get it! (duh)
"start extremely small and build a repertoire of success."
:evilgrin:

[txindy]

13. No, not the terrier

I want Barney the Dinosaur to chomp on ol' Karl. There's more than enough rump roast there for a T-Rex - and then some. :evilgrin:

[TexasChick]

14. How 'bout feeding the entire freckin' world? LOL!!

:evilgrin:

[txindy]

16. Only those without dietary restrictions

Some people aren't allowed to eat ham, you know. ;)

[TexasChick]

20. LOL!! n/t

[Lostnote03]

17. lol...n/t

[Clark2008]

22. Barney is the only Bush I like! n/t

[RevCheesehead]

23. do. not. reply. No, Rev. Keep yer mouth shut!

but I will giggle!

[ClassWarrior]

48. Naughty, naughty Rev...

:evilgrin:

NGU.

[RevCheesehead]

78. Geez, buddy, don't ya ever SLEEP???

One could get a reputation if yer not dat careful, ya know?

[zann725]

29. Too bad Barney can't be deposed!

n/t

[RevCheesehead]

32. Well, he DOES have the Barney-cam.

It could be like Nixon's secret tapes. But without the 18-minute gap.

[KansDem]

47. Barney is not permitted to bite Rove...

...He's on a low-fat diet...

[TexasChick]

53. ROFLMBO!!! n/t

[kerrygoddess]

5. Hey Msongs!

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=169

[WilliamPitt]

6. I kinda wish they hadn't subpoenaed Bush

Makes it seem over the top. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the dude on the witness chair. But from a PR perspective, it's a reach.

[hootinholler]

18. I wish they'd subpeona that Senator from NY....

That said on tape someting like We'll count the votes.

-Hoot

[smartvoter]

25. I had the same thought. nt

[The Judged]

35. Bush invited in & then told the WH press corp. that he knew he would win @

21:30 hours, did he not?

Perhaps the timing of this action as well as the actual basis for his message and unprecedented motivation to disclose this information to the WH press corp. somehow relate to the bigger picture of FRAUD?

I like to guess alot. lol

[donkeyotay]

72. Yes, so how did bush know in both 2000 and 2004

that he had won when no one else was able to discern it? He was so certain. They dragged in the VNS in 2000 and made them apologize for being wrong... except they were right.

Then again in 2004, the expensive exit polls were wrong, but Bush KNEW he had won. So, why don't we just use whatever service bush uses since he is always right while the others are wrong?

[Kansas Wyatt]

39. Now you know Shrub...

Will have to be sitting on Cheney's lap, if he does ever appear.

[Virginian]

54. Isn't Rove's lap softer?

[bunny planet]

60. No, then his back-box thingie will short out Darth Cheney's pacemaker

[Chimpanzee]

51. True, but it would be nice to get him 'on the record'

:evilgrin:

[goclark]

62. I hear you but...

The idea of that dude being cross examed, like they did my man Bill for a silly Blue dress, is so compelling!
We all know that they would never allow the emperor that wears no clothes to be asked to tell the truth.

[Mojorabbit]

71. I agree

Better to start with Blackwell and smaller fry and work their way up.
Bush has a lot of resources to throw against them and it seems as if it would have been better to get as much from the state level players first before tripping that wire.
Perhaps it was done to get some media attention?
Peace,
Mojorabbit

[sepia_steel]

75. I agree

But the way * stammers when he lies, it should be fun to watch. Maybe the judge or jury will see something obvious, as we always do when * opens his lying trap.

[Peace Patriot]

82. Now we know what "limited depostions" meant...

...in the K/E legal filing. Zowee!

[Peace Patriot]

83. Oops! Wrong lawsuit...

...I think. (And I meant "depositions"--didn't bother with SpellCheck.) They're referring to Arnebeck (representing voters), right? Yeah. I see that now. I dunno, Will, I'd sure like to hear Bush's account of staffers on Election night telling him he'd lost, and who his next phone call was to.

[merh]

7. That is the State Court filing, not the Federal Court suit.

Interesting. I need to go look at what was filed in Federal Court.

Federal Court filings only seeking depos of Brent Rapp and Michael Barbian, but does advise the court may be necessary as developed in discovery.

[starmaker]

9. planned to subpoena

doesn't sound like a definite considering source
or am i missing something

[TexasChick]

10. OMG! This is REALLY gonna upset that fascists Freeptards now! ROFL!

Expect everyone from DU to get one of Faye's "infamous" C-word type emails. Looks like we'll all be going to Mexico now and thrown over the border! ROFLMBO!!

[rumpel]

12. He is the master of deception and mischaracerization. He is

regretably far smarter than Rumsefeld, I am afraid he will talk himself out of it all.

[txindy]

15. Possibly, but that's not what he should be afraid of

It's what all the others will say that should terrify him. He can't control what comes out of their mouths. Junior would throw Karl to the wolves in a heartbeat to save himself. So would any of the others. They're cowards, all of them. They'll save themselves.

[fooj]

24. you betcha...

Sell out their own mothers for a cup of hot java!!!!!

[zann725]

30. Plus Junior doesn't need Rove to win him a second term anymore!

His usefulness to Junior is done. As is Blackwell.

And that's dangerous...

[txindy]

33. Not to mention that he knows far too much for their comfort

His usefulness is done and he knows too much. Nope, not a good combination! Add to that all of the enemies he's made while twisting arms these last four years and DC would love to join together to oust him. He's not in a good position. Not at all.

Bummer. :evilgrin:

[RevCheesehead]

34. Hmm... I wonder if Blackwell will be "suicided" or "accidented."

Add him to the body count of the BFEE.

[bunny planet]

61. Will the Pillsbury Roveboy have an .........accident?

:scared:

Maybe they'll...........bake him.

[RevCheesehead]

79. Extra-Crispy

<LOL>
Or should that be "extra-Crispini?" :)

No, no, I've got it:

He's going into hot water, so that'd make him a dumpling.
(get it? one who gets dumped?)

Or if you consider his girth, one could speculate that he would provide his own deep-fry, therefore:

Doughnuts.:donut:

[katinmn]

19. It's a breakthrough that it's even being covered

compared to the near total blackout we've been having.

I'm glad they plan to subpoena * and Rove. If it's a PR game, why let them set the rules?

Rove and his minions have always played it over the top. That's how you get the attention.

We need to keep this high profile.

[NVMojo]

26. Kick!!!

KKKarl Rove needs to step forward and be counted as the criminal he is. No getting away this time for his masterminded manipulations like in the Palme case....

[anamandujano]

36. Maybe we're getting the bad health news for Bush

to allow the Supreme Court to reverse themselves. They decided it was okay for a pres to testify when Clinton was in office but they need an out so Bush can hide his sorry @ss.

[The Judged]

37. Clearly only in the MSM in order to discredit ALL current lawsuits vs. BOE

and any other targets of election fraud investigations.

[enough]

38. kick

[keepthemhonest]

40. yup

all the people we would want BUSH,Blackwell,ROve

go get em

[lonestarnot]

41. Yahoooser! Day in Court!!!!!!!! Let Freedom Ring! The Master

Manipulator going down!

[Andy_Stephenson]

42. I did a voodoo

hate dance over the envelope befor it was mailed.

[ClassWarrior]

43. WHAT

[ClassWarrior]

44. ARE

[ClassWarrior]

45. THEY

[ClassWarrior]

46. HIDING?

NGU.

[DoYouEverWonder]

49. Where's that pic of Rove on Election night in the WH?

Rove ran the Bush campaign from the WH. Rove is a federal employee. The Hatch Act prohibits federal employees from participating in any campaign while they are at work. Rove's whole job inside the WH is a violation of this act.

[deminks]

50. Here is the pic and the thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=193744

I hope you all realize that Rove is headed for Great Britain soon to meddle in their politics. (that link is also in this thread from the UK Mirror) I hope Rove is deposed before he "skips town".

[DoYouEverWonder]

52. That's the one

Now about this little phone bank Karl set up in the dining room and those calls to the Networks and election officials, seems to me to be a clear violation of item #1 listed below.



These federal and D.C. employees may not-

* use official authority or influence to interfere with an election
* solicit or discourage political activity of anyone with business before their agency
* solicit or receive political contributions (may be done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other employee organizations)
* be candidates for public office in partisan elections
* engage in political activity while:
o on duty
o in a government office
o wearing an official uniform
o using a government vehicle
* wear partisan political buttons on duty

http://www.osc.gov/ha_fed.htm#may

[Straight Shooter]

56. I remember the media crucifixion of Gore over a couple little phone calls

But then again, Al Gore wasn't working for the top hyena of God's Own Party.

Why hasn't anyone in the media picked up on this?

Yeah, right.

[Virginian]

58. I guess they set up in the State Dining Room because it's part

of the "Residence," and not an office. They couldn't have done that in a conference room in the West Wing because that would have been "in a government office."
What IS Rove's title other than "Bush's Brain" or Political advisor? Shouldn't he be on Bush's personal payroll and not on the government's? Because his work is primarily political, shouldn't he be working out of a private office?

What about when cabinet members went on the campaign trail with Bush and spoke to his hand selected audience? Weren't they there in an official capacity, like talking about how Bush "has made us safer?"

Isn't Air Force One a "Government Vehicle?" Were all those campaign trips paid for by public or private moneys?

[KatieB]

67. Looks like printouts of Excel spreadsheets in front of Rove

Kind of like the numbers he needs for Bush to win.

[DoYouEverWonder]

81. Rove's activities on Election day and everyday

since Bush took office have been a violation of the Hatch Act.

Where Rove parked his fat butt on election night doesn't matter. Besides the WH is still, even the residence is Federal property. Bush doesn't own the place, despite whatever he believes, he just has the privilege of living there.

The fact that Rove was calling the MSM and SOE's across the country is the problem. He is violation of the Hatch Act because he was using his official authority or influence to interfere with an election.

Second, this is not the first and/or only time Rove has violated the Hatch Act. His whole job is a violation of the Hatch Act. Never before has a President had on paid WH staff a full time political consultant. By law, Rove should be paid by the Bush Campaign and he should have an office at campaign headquarters or the RNC, not inside the WH, where us sucker taxpayers have to pay for it.

[KatieB]

68. Karl Rove Tabulates his own results on election night..here's the thread

..in family dining room..has national network of precinct connections...
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=184448

[spooked]

63. HATCH ACT VIOLATION...The portrait in the background

It's a portrait of Theodore Roosevelt's wife Edith Kermit Carow Roosevelt

http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/glimpse/firstladies/html/er26.html

Can anyone find out in what room that portrait is hanging?
I am looking but haven't found it yet.

[spooked]

66. It's in the family Dining Room

http://americanart.si.edu/collections/exhibits/whc/whc-noframe.html?/collections/exhibits/whc/familydiningroominvirtu.html

[forksofbuffalo]

55. Unfortunately, this is going no where n/t

[Straight Shooter]

57. Your expertise to comment so authoritatively? Please clarify. eom

[forksofbuffalo]

59. Not an expert

But I’ll bet this story will be history by this time next week.

(Just like the torture memos of last week)

[Straight Shooter]

77. This story will not be history. This story will become history.

Patience. Blackwell just shot himself in the foot, and opened the door to a whole new scenario.

[EuroObserver]

64. That picture of Rove & team working

on the GOP campaign from a White House dining room.

The GOP would have had to have hired the space, paying also for such things as electricity and phone lines, am I right?

And they'd have had to specify that the space was to be used for party-political purposes during the culminating hours of their election 'campaign', am I right?

This would be setting a new precedent, or am I wrong?

[genieroze]

65. KKKarl Rove is

a big fat, nasty, smelly bag of blubber with glasses.

Bend over and let ROVEr take over.

[jsascj]

69. 2 predictions

1) He won't show or

2) If he can't 'not show' he'll lie his sorry fat ass off.

[rocktivity]

70. Be still, my heart!

If we can tie this directly to the Bush White House--and Rove IS the Bush White House--it would immediately saddle him with the world's longest lame duck presidency if not unseat him altogether. Let's see President Mightymouse scapegoat his way out of THIS one!

:headbang:
rocknation

[k8conant]

73. Blackwell accuses those suing of "frivolous conduct."...

just as GWB has always railed against "frivolous lawsuits", in other words, those against him and his cronies.

[Name removed]

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[BlueBloodDem]

76. I agree with you....

Not on the factual part, but on the fact they have included shrub and rove. The suit will be dismissed. Why the hell did they include them??? Blackwell is all that was needed. Sometimes I think these lawyers are just going through the motions to pacify us. How could any reasonable attorney wanting the truth possibly damage a suit including shrub????
If I am wrong, I will apologize to the whole lot of them, but at this point, I am just pissed!

[RevCheesehead]

80. Sometimes you have to ask for more than you want,

in order to get what you want. It's like proposing a budget. I would never give my "needs" on the first pass - because everything gets trimmed down.

By doing this, they probably will throw out the shrub (but we'll get to that later); and Rove may become a ?, but there's enough to get Blackwell.

[Peace Patriot]

84. That is not even close to the truth...

"Sometimes I think these lawyers are just going through the motions to pacify us."

This is the Arnebeck suit (on behalf of Ohio voters), and he would have no reason whatever "to pacify us" (something that could possibly be suspected of K/E lawyers--different lawsuit).

I don't think that who you ask for, as to depositions, can be grounds for dismissal. If the judge doesn't like it, he just doesn't grant that motion. Not too sure of my legal ground here, but I've never heard of a dismissal for that reason.

Given Arnebeck's allegations, I think depositions of Bush and Rove are highly appropriate. They were in charge of the campaign (Bush theoretically, although he's never held to account for anything; Rove, in reality). (Bush could well know something, though I suspect they speak to him about this kind of thing in code. Blackwell, by the way, was B/C campaign chair in Ohio--blatant conflict of interest, and possible road of questioning.)

[Name removed]

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[Mozartist]

85. Subpoenas

"On Dec. 21, officials learned lawyers for the voters planned to issue subpoenas to several high-ranking officials, including Blackwell, Bush and the president's political adviser, Karl Rove, according to Petro."

Well, subpoening Bush and Blackwell should finally bring the election fraud onto the mainstream news outlets; at least, I hope so. :)

[jazzjunkysue]

86. On ABC. Merry Christmas.

[helderheid]

88. that's HUGE. n/t