Blackwell is afraid to be deposed - What's he hiding?

[scottxyz]

Ohio GOP Election Officials Ducking Subpoenas as Kerry Enters Stolen Vote Fray

Ohio Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell refused to appear at a deposition on Monday, December 27. The deposition was part of an election challenge lawsuit filed at the Ohio Supreme Court. Meanwhile John Kerry is reported to have filed a federal legal action aimed at preserving crucial recount evidence, which has been under GOP assault throughout the state.

President George Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney and White House Political Advisor Karl Rove received notice that they will be deposed Tuesday and Wednesday, December 28 and 29.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1228-01.htm

[smartvoter]

1. WHAT

[smartvoter]

2. ARE

[smartvoter]

3. THEY

[smartvoter]

4. HIDING?

[seito]

15. Good Question, Hmmmmm.... n/t

[Jo March]

5. What are they hiding?

What are they hiding??

[seito]

16. Another good question n/t

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

37. They are hiding WHAT?

[Hieronymus]

6. Thom Hartmann is talking about this now.

:think:

[Skink]

7. I'm glad the MSM..

Is all over this story. Finally some justice. BTW do all thre depotee's get to go at the same time.

[goclark]

9. MSM "all over this" did I miss something?

I have heard nothing on my TV about any of the fraud stuff.
Not a peep.

[meganmonkey]

11. 41 hits on Google News

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/consumer_news/10508968.htm

for "Blackwell protective order"

Cincinatti, Alabama, California papers...etc etc.

This refers to Blackwell requesting protection from having to talk about the charges.

[ClassWarrior]

14. Please call them the "Corporate Media."

There is nothing "mainstream" about their agenda of unbridled greed and power-over-people.

And what are they hiding??

NGU.

[Dem2theMax]

62. That's 'KKKorporate' Media. And what are they hiding?

Everything. :mad:

[meganmonkey]

10. He quoted Will Pitt too!

[DrCorday]

8. I like this... I hope it goes somewhere.

I figure that the Repukes will somehow argue down any court action intended to find out more about how they handled the election, but it would be nice to see Bush and Cheney make headlines for attending the depositions.

Well, well...

[scottxyz]

13. Frankly, I no longer care if the so-called "MSM" picks it up

More and more, I think WE are the media.

If it's on DU, it's news.

Where do you tune in first nowadays to get your news?

- NY Times (Isvestia on the Hudson)
- WaPo (Pravda on the Potomac)
- news.google.com

Personally, I check in at news.google.com and then hit DU's Late Breaking News. I don't have time to be lied to.

I'm tired of begging the "MSM" (really the corporate media - they're hardly "mainstream" at all) to cover the news.

Someday, they're going to be begging US to cover their news. Mark my words - we're going to replace them.

This is just the beginning.

[flordehinojos]

12. what is blackwell hiding? that is easy:

he is hiding the bushes' ass as well as his own.

[ClassWarrior]

17. And I ask again...

[ClassWarrior]

18. WHAT

[ClassWarrior]

19. ARE

[ClassWarrior]

20. THEY

[ClassWarrior]

21. HIDING??

NGU.

[Mist]

22. Sorry if this is a stupid question

But isn't it illegal to refuse to appear at a deposition?

[ClassWarrior]

25. Sorry if this is a stupid question.

But what is he hiding??

(And there's no such thing as a stupid question.)

NGU.

[TripleD]

28. self delete

replied to wrong message

[TripleD]

30. Yes, it is illegal

for Blackwell to refuse to appear - see post #27

[TripleD]

29. self delete

can't seem to get the hang of this posting thing

[ClassWarrior]

32. What are they hiding?

NGU.

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. So is Blackwell in Violation of a Court Order?

Or am I just imagining things?

Does this mean that he could be subject to arrest?

I had a cop tell me once, that I would be subject to arrest if I didn't pay a ticket for a soggy life jacket within 10 days? You would think defying a court order would be considered a little worse?

[TripleD]

27. Not unless he carries out his threat

§ 3599.37. Disobedience of subpoena concerning violation of election laws.

(A) No person having been subpoenaed or ordered to appear before a grand jury, court, board, or officer in a proceeding or prosecution upon a complaint, information, affidavit, or indictment for an offense under an election law shall do either of the following:

(1) Fail to appear or, having appeared, refuse to answer a question pertinent to the matter under inquiry or investigation;

(2) Refuse to produce, upon reasonable notice, any material, books, papers, documents, or records in that person's possession or under that person's control.

(B) Whoever violates division (A) of this section, unless the violator claims the violator's constitutional rights, is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree.

http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing.com/oh/lpExt.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=PORC

[zimba]

24. Free Press has good story too, and the

explanation given as to why Blackwell hasnt shown up is because he wasnt properly served. Go figure.

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1046

Some other interesting new stuff from the article;

"Voters in Trumbull County have testified that on Election Day they received punch-card ballots where holes were already punched for Bush. Meanwhile, a notarized affidavit signed by Angela Greene, who voted at Whitehall Yearling High School in central Ohio's Franklin County, stated that one of the malfunctioning electronic voting machines at her polling place was delivered without a cartridge – meaning votes cast might have gone uncounted."


"In Mahoning County, the Washington Post reported new affidavits documenting electronic "vote hopping" from Kerry to Bush. This means voting machines highlighted the choice for Bush before the voter recorded a choice of his or her own. The legal team has been told by a computer expert that this may mean the machines were pre-set on a Bush vote as a default. The Free Press has obtained dozens such sworn statements of vote hopping."

[Verve]

26. Thank you Free Press!!! Just one of the things they've uncovered:

"In Miami County, Blackwell certified a 98.6% turnout in the Concord Southwest precinct, comprised of 520 votes for Bush and 157 for Kerry. This statistically improbable turnout has all but 10 of the 689 registered voters casting their ballots on Election Day. A preliminary canvas by The Free Press of less than half the precinct found 25 registered voters admitting they had not voted, meaning the official tally was almost certainly fraudulent. "

Keep up the good work!
:bounce:

[Al-CIAda]

31. Amazing

"In Miami County, Blackwell certified a 98.6% turnout in the Concord Southwest precinct, comprised of 520 votes for Bush and 157 for Kerry. This statistically improbable turnout has all but 10 of the 689 registered voters casting their ballots on Election Day. A preliminary canvas by The Free Press of less than half the precinct found 25 registered voters admitting they had not voted, meaning the official tally was almost certainly fraudulent. "


Would it be incidents such as this that he is hiding?
What more is he hiding?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

58. Excellent find. This is the kind of INTELLIGENT posting we need here...

Thank you.

[Jo March]

33. Just faxed this to Kerry's office

LOL! They are going to get a lot more from me today!!!

I am loving that fax thing over at thedeanepeople.org!

[Al-CIAda]

34. Opportunity for action-

spirittoo - (fr. RRMB)
I imagine the working folks will have a chance to read this now. I know it is probably difficult to call during working hours, but if there are any of you out there that can, please do.

Spead the word. Ask Ohio AG why they will not enforce the law. Is it truth that they stated putting Katherine Blackwell under oath is harrassment?
I tried to locate an 800 number, but there was only one for consumer protection. If anyone knows of an 800 number for Ohio AG please post.

Ohio AG: 614 466 4320.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

35. Hey, smartvoter and classwarrior, am I right in asking

WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?

[ClassWarrior]

46. That does seem to be the question on the lips of patriotic Americans.

NGU.

[msongs]

36. Dems should orchestrate a huge media blast against blackwell...

US Senators, congresspersons, dems secretaries of states (maybe bragging how great they are compared to blackwell)

ANYTHING TO BRING ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE.

Instead, silence.
Instead, complicity.
Instead, losers.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[Jo March]

41. I'm blasting them right now! Care to join the effort?

We do not need to wait for our "leaders" to lead us! We can blast the crap out of them ourselves! There are so many ways to do it and it's easy!

Go to thedeanpeople.org or http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/home/

Blast out your message. I've been sending Kerry's office newspaper clips outlining the election fraud.

It just takes a little time and determination.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

38. WHAT

[bleever]

40. ARE

[ClassWarrior]

44. THEY

[seito]

47. HIDING???

[seito]

39. What Are They Hiding?

[Al-CIAda]

42. Hmmm...

[lonestarnot]

65. Love this post!

[fooj]

43. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?

ANY TAKERS?B-)

[seito]

61. I know...

The troof.

Katherine: "Yer never gonna get me to tell you what I am not hiding and there is nothing to see so don't look anyway."

[ClassWarrior]

45. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? bumper stickers!!

Make your own at www.stickerjunkie.com. I ordered 100, standard font, white type on black, all caps. $25 + s&h. Such a deal.

WHAT ARE THEY HIDING??

NGU.

[Imagevision]

48. Blackwell can't give a deposition--he knows he's screwed if he does>

Plus all the dominoes will begin to fall -- this is like when Nixon flat out refused to give all the "tapes" in the Warergate investigations(18 minutes erased). Remember Nixon had the balls to fire the special prosecutor.

The fact he refuses to want to give a deposition clearly speaks for itself.

If Blackwell talks and ends up perjuring himself? too many powerful players would fall over this -- plus he obviously has the msm keeping silent. January 6th... either way it's over.
Bush? The most corrupt administration in US. history!

[Chimpanzee]

49. I KNOW WHAT HE's HIDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Massive Election FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ClassWarrior]

50. Even a chimp can figure it out.

What are they hiding?

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

51. Will no one but a chimp answer me???!!

WHAAAAAATTT...

ARRREEEE...

THEYYYYYYY...

HIDINGNGNGNGNGNGNG????....

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

52. ???

NGU.

[Al-CIAda]

53. The Blackwell goes....

peek-a-boo .


What is he hiding?

[Patsy Stone]

54. NOTHING! CAN'T YOU SEE?

There's NOTHING wrong. I won't tell you what I'm hiding, because there's nothing to hide. I'm not defensive? Are you defensive? Why don't you ask yourself that question? Why are you defensive? Cause, I'm not defensive...

:)

[L. Coyote]

55. The fact that systematic fraud was built into Cuyahoga County's ...

allocation of ballot orders and location combinations. If they did it in Cleveland, and they did, ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=196518&mesg_id=196518

[McCamy Taylor]

56. I want to ask "With whom did you discuss plans to hinder exit polls"?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

57. We all know what they are hiding. No need to ask us here.

Preaching to the choir.

[L. Coyote]

60. Remember Watergate?? It was all in asking the right questions. n/t

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

63. You mean like WHAT ARE THEY HIDING??????

[McCamy Taylor]

59. Actually a good deposition is the best way to start, get him on perjury

and then the other crimes come to light from there. Is why he doesnt want to testify. Because some of the things he will want to lie about wont actually be crimes they will just be things that might make him look bad, hurt his chances for being elected governor. So we get him under oath, make him tell the truth and squirm or catch him in a bit fat lie.

[Jo March]

64. I think that I'll have to contribute to whoever runs against Blackwell

for Governor. I'm in NC but would love to make sure that man is stopped before he goes any further.

[grumpy old fart]

66. Where's the followup on this story?

Blackwell is legally required to show up for his deposition unless he is able to obtain a Protective Order from the court. We do know he has sought such an Order, but I've seen no report on the outcome of that request.

[ClassWarrior]

67. What is he hiding?

NGU.

[DemonFighterLives]

68. You DUers should know

Republicans are above the law. Wasn't Ch*ney supposed to appear over the energy meetings or something. Shrubbie and him appeared together in secret for 9/11 questions.
Nothing to question with these fine Republicans and God is on their side. Amen

[grumpy old fart]

69. Prez and V.P. do actually have some additional protections...

from legal process. But Katherine Blackwell? What else does he actually have to do?

[ClassWarrior]

70. If anyone wants a WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? bumper sticker...

...PM me. I'll have 100 for sale in a few days.

NGU.