SEQUOIA SEQUOIA, SEQUOIA did we investigate them?

[burn the bush]

ok it might be mispelled, but it doesn't seem like much attention was paid to sequoia. I can't get the thought out of my mind that they need more looking into. I'm sure it is because the shrub named his yacht sequoia and that sequoia is suddenly being sold that they keep popping up in my mind. Also weren't they the ones that were more or less given to Nevada so they would use them? How much of the voting was done by Sequoia? Anybody know?

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[drthais]

3. umm...

It is a company (I believe)
that produces the ubiquitous 'electronic voting machines'
one of three, I believe

[kc.ink]

2. I think you are on to something smelly. n/t

[berniew1]

4. Sequoia touchscreens in Florida: Palm Beach, Hillsboro, Pinellas, not Ohio

Sequoia vote machines have widespread fraud documented in Florida, and and I think New Mexico.
www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html
but I don't think they had any touchscreens in Ohio- those were ES&S.
ES& S had the most counties in Florida and their machines had documented fraud as well.
Sequoia may have had optical scans in Ohio, but I don't know. I haven't heard of any Sequoia there. But the Sequoia Edge machines were preset(default to Bush) in several states.

[Zan_of_Texas]

18. Most of Ohio votes using ES&S or Triad.

ES&S has 36 counties plus part of Franklin.

Triad has 41 counties, all punch card, out of 88.

Diebold has a couple of counties, and there are a few other small presences in Ohio.

Sequoia and Triad together have Lake County, with electronic, paperless DREs.

Sequoia's parent company is in England.

[McCamy Taylor]

5. Sequoia was originally part of a Florida paper company with political ties

...to brother Jeb (I think the company was called Jefferson Smurfett or something equally insane.) Back in 2002 they were being used for paperless electronic voting in the Florida governors race and some people in Florida sued because they wanted to see the softwear and Sequoia said "No way, it's proprietary!" and while it was in court they sold the election part of the company to someone in England. At least I seem to remember that this is what was happened. This was way back in the stone age of electonic theft. No idea who owns Sequoia now.

If someone was supposed to have rigged the Dem primary so that Reno was not nominated, I guess it would have been Sequoia, dont know for sure.

[burn the bush]

7. smurfing is a term used meaning depositing money to off shore accounts

that are in amounts under 10,000 to avoid detection. I thought that i read that sequioa was just sold right after this election.

[EC]

8. I wonder if we could

get around proprietary rights some way now that Britian hasn't let Microsoft get away with it....could we find one of these voting machines (any of them) in England and get inside them?

[IndyOp]

6. There has been a lot of research done on all of the major

voting machine companies and posted here at DU -- I suggest that you use the "search" facility -- you should be able to quickly find a ton of information.

:kick:

[Smirking_Chimp]

9. I voted on a Sequoia

But will never again, I will vote absentee from now on. Here in Ocean County NJ we have the Sequoia AVC Edge machines which flip votes. I'm not sure if my vote counted, and I want people in this area to get outraged about the machines here! Chimp won this county by slim margin.

[genieroze]

13. No he didn't he won by 60 percent but it was very close in 2000

Talk about things that make you go humm. I downloaded all the stats from NJ.

[Verve]

10. His yacht is named Sequoia? Is he stupid enough to name his yacht

after a fraudulent voting machine? He certainly didn't name it after the tree with his envioronmental record.

Uhhh... never mind. I know the answer. The great chimp seizes to amaze us all with his brilliance.

[grasswire]

17. uh, people.....

The official name of the former presidential yacht is "Sequoia." It has always had that name, even under Richard Nixon.

No plot there.

[NVMojo]

11. almost two fecking months after I post crap about Sequoia in NV

...someone asks ....and seems to care ....

[Verve]

12. Great minds sometime think before their time!

That's great you've already thought of this. Do you have some insight into any specifics of the Sequoia machines?

[Al-CIAda]

14. Info-

Election Official Thwarts Recount Using Phony Vote Totals
   In the Middle Ages it was “God’s Will.” Today it's "a computer glitch.”
Even as testimony indicated a Florida computer firm was asked to create a program to 'hack the vote' at the request of a top Florida Republican, a “mistake” in the office of the seriously-compromised Supervisor of Election in Pinellas County spiked hopes for a recount. A recount that would have thrown a spotlight on dark corners of the election process in the Sunshine State...which critics say hide widespread and even systemic vote fraud.

http://www.madcowprod.com /
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"THE BIG FIX 2004"
How to Fix a Presidential Election
An investigation into the surprisingly-sordid history of America’s “election services industry” has revealed that executives and owners of the two largest companies, E S & S and Sequoia Pacific, have been convicted of bribery and suborning public officials in more than a dozen states.

http://www.madcowprod.com/mc6912004.html

[genieroze]

15. I like your name. lol eom

[Generic Other]

16. Me too. I didn't know whether to laugh or run for my life

Good one. I refuse to repeat it aloud however for fear of getting on the "no-fly" list. :)

[lostnfound]

19. These graphs of Florida by voting machine type showed Sequoia 10% offset

Please look at these two graphs. The first shows ALL counties in Florida, each bubble colored according to machine type -- I found it suspicious that Bush's campaign could supposedly be so much more successful in almost every county in Florida.

But look at Sequoia. It showed that the 4 counties using Sequoia with WinEds 2.6.220 had a linear pattern of Bush growth that was consistently 10% (+/- 2%) better than the Kerry/Gore. This is in spite of the very diverse nature of these 4 counties. And in spite of the fact that the registration numbers for Republicans actually dropped in one county. Whether Kerry picked up 10% or 30% compared to Gore in a given county, the Bush campaign managed to gain 10% MORE.




Sequoia Only, shown below:
Notice the grey line which is a 10% offset line. That's what you'd get if you took 5% away from 1 candidate and added 5% to another.



These graphs are based on election results reported a few days after the election. They do not include changes that occurred more than 1 week later (particularly significant in Palm Beach County). My suspicion would be that for the Sequoia machines, the weakest point was the central tabulator, and only a simplistic patch could be incorporated at the time of the tabulation.

Or else a whole lot of Gore voters turned out this time for Bush.

[McCamy Taylor]

20. nice graphics!

:o