The Case that Kerry Won is Looking Stronger.....

[JoMama49]

Widespread vote machine fraud has been documented in Florida in the big touchscreen counties, as well as voter suppression of minorities. Similar to the widespread voter suppression and fraud that has been documented in Ohio and New Mexico.

The problems appear large enough to swing all 3 states, as implied by the exit poll data- for which a new version is circulating today with strong evidence Kerry won the election. Exit poll data on voting groups.

All are summarized with detail to the precinct and machine level at the following web page:

http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

Exit poll cites:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/pdfs/Mitofsky4zonedata/

THE CNN NATIONAL EXIT POLLS PROVE KERRY WON!

Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 10:05 PM by TruthIsAll

http://www.exitpollz.org/CNN_national2.htm

Am I reading this correctly?

If I am, we have the SMOKING GUN:

1) 59% of the 17% who did NOT vote in 2000 but who did in 2004 voted for Kerry. Just 39% for Bush.

2) 65% of those who did NOT vote for Bush or Gore in 2000 voted for Kerry. Just 13% for Bush and 16% for Nader.

3) 91% of those who voted for Gore, voted for Kerry.

4) 90% of those who voted for Bush in 2000, voted for Bush in 2004.

[Quakerfriend]

1. Yeah, it's all there

plain as day. But, have you seen the MSM talking about it at all yet? I have not watched the TV yet today.

[Pam-Moby]

4. What Reports?

You know that they wont say that such reports exist!! They have to keep lapping up the spilled milk that * throws their way
:puke:

[berniew1]

24. You can see the documentation here down to the precinct & machine level

[Brundle_Fly]

43. this is enough to at least

say that the final outcome will never really be known. and that is enough to say that the election is illegitimate.

[rfranklin]

2. MSM cannot report conjecture unless it involves Clinton's penis...

or Britney's breasts.

[katinmn]

A/K/A Clenis

MSM is "embedded" and wedded to the White House.

Their monopoly on the airwaves and in print would be at risk if they were to tell the truth.

[merh]

8. *** BREAKING NEWS --- NEWS ALERT ***

Missing exit polls found on Clinton's penis reveal that John Kerry actually won!

[Clark2008]

28. Maybe Paula Jones should sue for the missing

exit poll results.

She could claim that the media dropped its drawers and revealed a crooked bent (ahem) to the actual vote results.

[merh]

10. *** NEWS ALERT **** We interrupt this program to report

that the Bush administration and campaign strategist Karl Rove hid the exit polls raw data on Janet Jackson's breast. Due to another "wardrobe malfunction" the data has been discovered and after independent and bipartisan analysis the exit polls data reflects that John Kerry is the President Elect.

[BR_Parkway]

11. Scott Peterson jury returns with missing exit polls. n/t

[Pithy Cherub]

21. Actually they were found in a secret room in Neverland ranch

where Michael Jackson was having them privately "retouched" by the plastic media surgeons before presenting them to Robert Blake to divert attention from his trial.

[merh]

32. LOL!!!

And Larry King has the exclusive!!!

[jbnow]

47. Get serious

Whereever those votes are, OJ will find them. He's looking.

[Patsy Stone]

26. Paris Hilton, Scott Peterson, Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant

Robert Blake, Phil Spector, Julia Roberts, The Swift Boat Liars and others will continue to clog up the meedjia's time. There are plenty of celebrity stories left to cover.

Keep the public in the dark and covered in manure -- just like mushrooms.

:)

[merh]

35. Shrooms make you hallucinate, maybe that's their diabolical plan

we eat our own and we begin to believe that the weed that would be king is, in fact KING!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH :argh:

[pacalo]

37. Don't forget their 24/7 coverage of Scott Peterson.

Investing any airtime on the loss of democracy would go against their interests. While WhatsHisFace is in office, it'll have to be wag-the-dog time -- his corruption commands continuous glossing over. What will be the next diversionary obsession, is the question.

"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt

[kitkat65]

46. Or in the glovebox of a free car from Oprah

[berniew1]

3. More details from exit poll data from another thread

Newly Released Media Exit Poll Data shows: (Kerry won)
1) 59% of the 17% who did NOT vote in 2000 but who did in 2004 voted for Kerry. Just 39% for Bush.

2) 65% of those who did NOT vote for Bush or Gore in 2000 voted for Kerry. Just 13% for Bush and 16% for Nader.

3) 91% of those who voted for Gore, voted for Kerry.

4) 90% of those who voted for Bush in 2000, voted for Bush in 2004.

5) 20% (approx) of all voters are new voters. Of these voters according to the exit polls 65% voted Kerry and 35% voted Bush

6)The exit poll from the South shows Kerry won 64% of the Hispanic Vote.


7) Kerry's margin of victory was INCREASING, not decreasing as the day grew later


Some common myths regarding need tor adjustment dispelled by the Newly Released poll data:

1. The earlier exit poll numbers oversampled women.

Wrong. The 7:30 p.m. exit poll numbers consisted of 54% women and 46% men. The final exit poll numbers included the exact same percentages.

2. The earlier exit poll numbers oversampled minorities.

Wrong. The 7:30 p.m. exit poll numbers consisted of 11% blacks and 9% hispanics. The final exit poll numbers included 11% blacks and 8% hispanics.

3. The earlier exit poll numbers oversampled democrats (i.e., republicans voted later in the day).

Wrong. The 7:30 p.m. exit poll numbers consisted of 38% democrats, the final exit poll numbers consisted of 37%.

4. The earlier exit poll numbers undersampled rural voters.

Wrong. The 7:30 p.m. exit poll numbers consisted of 16% rural voters, same as the final exit poll numbers.

Media Exit Poll data: Posted Dec-30-04 10:05 PM by TruthIsAll
http://www.exitpollz.org/CNN_national2.htm

[zimba]

5. Dont know if it is pointing to a Kerry win or not but

it definately is shaping up to be a greater concern than the issues that prompted the Ukraine revote, which is exactly what we need in the 3 states mentioned.

[berniew1]

6. More documentation of vote machine fraud & systematic voter suppression

Free Press site has lots of documentation of systematic suppression of minorities and both machine fraud and other types of fraud in Ohio,
along with affidavits from voters, experts, officials
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19

as does Richard Phillips site: http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm

and documentation of widespread vote machine fraud and suppression of minorities in Florida at
http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

[mzmolly]

7. "Default to Bush"

Have these machines been examined? I suppose they've been reprogramed now anyhow? :(

We need a new system. We need a system of surprise audits and MAJOR trouble if irregularities are found.

I worked in banking, we had audits and people lose jobs for f-ing shit up in a bank. There is nothing more important than our democracy and it's a frikken rinky dink willy nilly operation.

[Quakerfriend]

13. HAaaa! LOL!

"rinky dink willy nilly operation" And,you are so right about the comparison to the banking world.

[berniew1]

25. They have affidavits in Ohio from voters, experts, officials

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[merh]

34. Oh yeah, Says who?

Whatcha thinking, you'ze a lawyer or just a critic?

[Warpy]

9. It's obvious Kerry won

unless you're a moron who always sucked at arithmetic and whose head hurts when you see anything with numbers in it and besides, isn't it easier to focus on the gargage spewed out of the TV set than to realize your country just got stolen out from under you by a gang of the most evil men the world has seen since the 1930s?

The MSM will NOT report this story. They know Kerry won. They wanted Bush so they could keep their monopolies strong.

[marcologico]

12. right, the media will play their stupid "fair and balanced" game

like, "Reports have surfaced claiming that the election was stolen by Republican agents using a variety of illegal means. However, widespread election fraud favoring Democrats has also been alleged by Karl Rove and confirmed by Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell."

[corbett]

18. Exactly Right!

It's easy to sleep well at night despite a guilty conscience if you're sleeping on a new 40-foot yacht which you bought with your monopolistic profits facilitated by young Mr. Powell at the FCC and a crooked Congress.

[politicasista]

30. Four words for the MSM

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

SMIRKY CHEESE EATERS!

[Quakerfriend]

14. I think we need to start blocking the entrances to MSM

outlets and let them know that we won't take their black out for one more day!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[mzmolly]

15. Excellent idea for activism!

:toast:

[Clark2008]

36. LOL!! I'm just picturing all these media whores

standing out on the streets with ONLY Keith Olbermann allowed into the building to work.

ROFLMAO! That's just a funny image. :)

[malatesta1137]

16. we knew that was going to happen

the only question that matters is: WHAT IS JOHN KERRY DOING ABOUT IT?

[marcologico]

17. he's filing legal papers

to ensure that the Conyers investigation and Green-Lib lawsuits go forward. What would you like him to do, get on TV and scream?

[malatesta1137]

31. yes

that would be a start. Gathering popular support on TV is fundamental, right now 99% of America doesn't even know John Kerry still exists.

Now if a Senator contests the election on Jan 6, a chance in million, most Americans will see it as a freak occurrence. That's because John Kerry failed to keep the battle alive with his voters, and the ONLY way to do it was on television.

And this so-called filing isn't going anywhere, it's not a separate lawsuit on behalf of Kerry, it's worthless.

[New Earth]

33. Happy New Year you positive being you

:hi:

[liberalla]

44. The last time someone got on TV and screamed

his campaign went down the toilet... (Dean)
No point screaming until the evidence is overwhelming... which is near, I BELIEVE.

[corbett]

19. At The Moment, He's On His Way To Visit Our Troops

Imagine the spectacle he'll be able to create if he returns to Washington as the election challenge crisis heats up and he can say that he personally met with hundreds of men and women in uniform who say they voted for him and want him to become President so they can come home!

[marcologico]

20. that would be rich

:toast:

[Quakerfriend]

23. How sweet it would be!

We so need for him to step in and be our HERO and lead us in this fight to take our country back!

[Vidar]

22. Thanks for posting. We have to keep fighting.

[KerryOn]

29. I would not call it a smoking gun.

The other party involved does not believe in the exit polls, and neither does the Suprem Court of Ohio.

[Not a Sheep]

38. We seem to have a loose definition of smoking gun around here....

......and people get really mad if you try and be rational and point it out to them. You need to fall in line and agree that whatever new smoking gun we've found is in fact proof.

Join the flock.

[KerryOn]

40. Slow down...

I agree that Fraud took place, I never said I didn't. I don't think I like your tone. I'm in line with you!

All I'm saying is proving it to anyone will be difficult. Exit polls are just that "Exit Polls", and they have nothing to do with the actual vote, according to Bush and Co.

Proof to the other side, would have to be from something other than exit polls.

[elizm]

42. The other party believes in exit polls...

..if they happen to be in UKRAINE!

[roenyc]

39. Would be really cool if

Dan Rather did it. a 60 minutes expose!!! oh please Dan do it like you did Nixon! like you pissed them off in the 60's and the 70's and the 80's.

pissed them off so bad that they made you fall. Dan has to do it. i would like to see that.

i wonder if people are just afraid of turning up you know, crashing in a plane or car or suicide or hey whatever! accidents happen so often. just never know anymore.

[kitkat65]

45. Oh, what payback. Beeyoooteeful.

I still think he (Rather) got set up with those face documents. See what happens when you discredit the Prez? You look like a fool. Let it be a lesson to the lot of ya!

[KnowerOfLogic]

41. Sounds good, but maybe those results were 'wrong' too? nt