the only solution -- ALL DEM Senators must protest

[grasswire]

It's the only way to keep Republicans from punishing individual Democrats. ALL of them must protest Ohio (at least).

There is protection in numbers.

Call the bluff. Take a stand for one man one vote. If not now, when? When?

[jmc777]

1. Would they have the balls to do it?

I don't think so, sadly. :grr:

[OKthatsIT]

26. The Dem Senators would be fools not to ...SEND THIS NOW

Declaration of Intent



As a Member of Congress it is my sworn duty to uphold and defend the US Constitution. Being mindful of that oath, I believe that the single moral tenet on which that document, and therefore the nation, rests is the principle that government power can only be derived from the consent of the governed.

Consequently, the right of the People to have confidence that they are being afforded free and fair elections for their government officials is a right that no other consideration can supersede. A free and fair election is one in which all citizens have been afforded equal access and opportunity to cast their vote and have that vote accurately counted.

I choose to make this declaration at this time because it has now become clear to me that several states have, to this point in time, failed to fully provide for what would generally be regarded as a free and fair election for their citizens. And consequently, they have generated an insufficient level of confidence in their official result.

There can be no arbitrary point in time -- whether it be a date scheduled for appointing electors, electoral voting, or electoral vote counting -- that can limit the right of the People to have their consent justly measured and expressed. An election is a survey not a contest.

With these principles in mind I would urge the duly authorized election officials in each and every state to make every effort -- whether it be ballot recounting, independent auditing, reopening voting, or even judicially-sanctioned statistical adjustment of results -- to assure that their election truly reflects the will of the citizens of their state.

I wish to recognize that efforts are ongoing in some states -- by candidates, election officials, the news media, and citizens groups, through recounts and other means -- to clarify and adjust the official results in order to increase the level of public confidence. These efforts are necessary, however, they cannot be sufficient.

This is true because by far the most disturbing circumstances that have occurred in this election are the confirmed cases of disparate treatment being afforded to certain classes of voters. If systemic barriers to exercising the franchise existed that correlate to a citizen's age, race, religion, gender, socio-economic status, military status, partisan status, absentee status, immigration status, or other identifiable characteristic, the election was neither free and fair, nor lawful in the absence of any corrective remedy being applied.

Therefore, in keeping with my oath of office, I publicly declare my intention to act on January 6th 2005 and object to any presidential electors that I believe to have been unlawfully appointed. To do less would make me complicit with a violation of our shared democratic principles.




_______________________________
Member of Congress


_____________
Date

[understandinglife]

2. Any member of the 109th Congress who does not support....

...Congressman Conyers challenge will be aiding and abetting crimes against their fellow citizens.

Their choice; we will not permit them to escape the consequences of failing to challenge this fraudulent, invalid national election process.

Peace.

"Its 7 Jan 2005: do you know who your president is?"

[grasswire]

3. what could Rove do to them all?

It would be such a stunning move that all America would be a-buzz. Rove couldn't possibly spin the story in a flattering way. And he couldn't possibly punish all of them under the public glare.

[Fovea]

4. It's not Rove, but From

that they are held back by, IMO.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

5. Can the Senators who are in Iraq that day.....

"Stand up" from over there? If not, we know it won't be all of them.

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. Probably

The objection has to be in writing and signed by at least one member of the House and one Member of the Senate. But they would not be able to vote on it.

[Old and In the Way]

6. Everyone single one of them should be standing and supporting

Conyers. They need to send a clear message to the Republicans that it will not be "business as usual" in this Congress.

It's rather simple. Stand up for us....or watch your base disintegrate.

I'm not sure if it will change the outcome, but we need to reform the bnational election process so that there is consistancy and transparency. If we don't have confidence in the election process, people will stop voting.

[Nite Owl]

7. That is what they don't realize

they think that well the 'base' has no where to go so they will still hang around. They are in for a shock if they continue to vere right.

[Pithy Cherub]

8. Every 109th Congressional Democrat must protest to HONOR

every individual who tried to do their duty as an American citizen and vote. They should stand on the prinicples of Equal Justice under Law, and the preservation of the constitution. To not do so is a craven failure of leadership and the American people. If fear is a factor in their political calculations, it matters not because NOTHING will matter going forward. It is an honor and a duty for the American people that they must do this. Courage is acting in the face of fear!

[glitch]

9. I would die so happy. Even if we don't win, not fighting is humiliating.

How many people will continually ally themselves to a party whose cowardice humiliates them?
I guess we'll find out.
If they all stood with Conyers they would have alliances with Libertarians and Greens and Independants and even moderate Republicans. Not to mention the entire world.
Can you hear the roar of people across this planet, leaping to their feet and cheering?
Such a beautiful image, oh to be proud to be American again.

[stirringstill]

23. Making a STAND

All Democratic Senators must stand. It would make me proud to be a member of the opposition party.

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[glitch]

11. Shame more people don't see this as possible. Perhaps if they did

it would be.
:dem:

[Nay]

14. "Shame more DEM LEADERS don't see this as possible" you mean.

Whether you and I out here think it's possible has no bearing on the fact that it is the DUTY of the Dem leaders to do it, whatever us dems out here think is 'possible' or not. Sorry, but it irritates the heck out of me to constantly hear that it's our fault out here, when the Dem leadership has simply refused to do its actual job. Did they think the millions of people who marched against the war were figments of their imaginations? Why weren't they there with us then? When the Black Caucus had the guts to stand up against the war and the "leadership" slapped them down, are we really supposed to believe that we would have an effect? The only time we are going to have an effect is if we truly take to the streets and literally start burning the place down. And if we do that, it's open season on us. So, the dem 'leadership' will have to forgive us for not lighting the fires. From what we have seen of them so far, they wouldn't rush to join us -- they'd be so scared of their Pube buddies they would probably join the firing squads and SWAT teams.

[McCamy Taylor]

12. Agree!

[lostnfound]

13. Will the real Democrats please stand up? nt

[kitkat65]

15. It's a Catch-22. If they do stand up they may be targets by the Reps in

the future.

If they don't stand up, then they can surely start losing their own seats to voter fraud. Look at Max Cleland surprising loss.

[Quakerfriend]

16. Sadly, they are going to keep losing if they don't stand up now!

They must stand up and say that they will not be victimized a single day longer!

[glitch]

18. They're already targets - so they might as well build/keep their base

IMO all standing together is actually their safest political course.

[pointsoflight]

22. Yep...they'll be repub targets AND our targets if they don't stand up.

[KoKo]

17. I TOTALLY AGREE! It's the only way we will be "regognized." We Hang

Together...or WE HANG ALONE!

Thank you for posting this...The thought came to me in a dark hour last night where I try to sleep...but my mind races through the "Election/Selection" and I do some sort of "mental scan" as to what we have "left undone."

If our Democrats in the House and Senate ALL STAND TOGETHER to PROTEST ANOTHER STOLEN ELECTION...then that's why they are there. They are fulfilling the contract of why they are there...with the dollars and sweat equity we put into them..

If they REFUSE to STAND against the EMPEROR...against our WHOLE US CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS...then they are "dead" to me...I go "Third Party."

There would be NO Excuse I could justify for them Not standing together like the Repugs do after all this time.

The "Line in the Sand" and the "Writing on the Wall" would assure me that our Dem Leaders give "s**t about us."

So...It's every "person for themself..these days." :-( Death of the Dems..., here..but HEY...Move On!

[Laurab]

27. That is so weird

I was thinking along the same lines when I was trying to sleep. They SHOULD all stand. Since we're well on our way to facism, I don't really think they have anything at all to lose. My thought was "why bother voting at all"? Green, dem, it wouldn't matter, the vote wouldn't count anyway.

Then again, even one, two, or a few courageous souls could stand up - it would have to make some type of difference, or at least open people's eyes, and it would sustain my faith in our "democracy" at least a little. We will see what happens, and I haven't lost faith, but I really do agree with you. Every single one of them should stand, and any that don't are enabling the emperor in his war on democracy.

[OneBlueSky]

19. so who's the Senate Minority Whip? . . .

do the Democrats even have one? . . . if they do, why isn't that person doing his or her job? . . . which is "whipping" party members into line to support or contest something AS A PARTY? . . .

when, in fact was the last time this happened, in either the House or the Senate? . . . when Democrats stood up together, as a party, to collectively support or contest something? . . .

when was the last time the Democrats acted as if they were the opposition? . . .

when was the last time the Democrats acted AS IF THEY WERE A PARTY? . . .

[IndyOp]

20. Educate ALL DEM Senators...

A thorough summary of what, when, who of election fraud in Ohio --

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x221594>

:kick:

[Helga Scow Stern]

21. We need to let them know we've got them in the bull's eye, like Dobson:

"James C. Dobson, the nation's most influential evangelical leader, is threatening to put six potentially vulnerable Democratic senators "in the 'bull's-eye' " if they block conservative appointments to the Supreme Court.

In a letter his aides say is being sent to more than one million of his supporters, Dr. Dobson, the child psychologist and founder of the evangelical organization Focus on the Family, promises "a battle of enormous proportions from sea to shining sea" if President Bush fails to appoint "strict constructionist" jurists or if Democrats filibuster to block conservative nominees."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/01/politics/01dobson.html?oref=login&oref=login


This is what I put at the end of my cover to the 23 page report of IndyOp's that I've been faxing:

Please review these materials and those from the findings of Rep. Conyers most carefully. I am sure that if you understand what is presented, you will have no choice but to stand with the other Democratic and perhaps Republican Senators on January 6 in support of Rep. Conyers' request for an honest investigation of the vote.

There are clearly only two reasons why you would not stand. Those would be either that you have not taken the time and trouble to familiarize yourself with the matter, or that you do not consider it your duty to defend the constitution and the right of the people to have an honest election.

Please help make us proud members of a great democracy once again.

Sincerely,
XXXXXXX

Now I am not so sure if this is strong enough.

[Vektor]

25. I have to be honest...

I will never become a Republican/Conservative. EVER.
But it will be difficult for me to keep throwing my support toward the Democratic party if they just curl up and die, (a second time) when fraud is clearly evident. I will still continue to make donations toward progressive causes and continue to promote the viewpoints that progressives embrace, but quite frankly, the pain and betrayal I feel at the thought of the Dems letting this shit slide for a second time makes me want to avoid politics and elections in general. If the shoe were on the other foot, the Republicans would be screaming bloody murder, not giving two shits what anyone else thought. Please don't flame me, I am not putting anyone down, or laying blame on a particular person or persons. I am just saying that since this is supposed to be the party of activists, I feel a little let down that there hasn't been more outright protesting of the election and all it's shenanigans and irregularites...

I just feel really trapped by all this unchecked corruption. Where are our leaders? Yes, a few have made some noise, but NOT ENOUGH.

[KoKo]

28. Kick......for them ALL STANDING!

[Kashka-Kat]

29. YES - hoping for a "norma rae" moment!! nm