Has this article on Election fraud been posted here already?

[Miami Liberal]

I found this site while Googling for voter fraud articles, I'm not familiar with the website but the article is supposedly written by someone who works for the RNC who says Kerry actually won by 1.7 million votes.

http://www.cmaq.net/fr/node.php?id=19196

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"The truth about this election is this: Florida and Ohio had to go for Bush in order for him to "win" the election. In reality he lost both states. In fact, he did not even win the popular vote. He lost the national popular vote by at least 1,750,000. This shows you the scale of the fraud.

The exit polls were not wrong. Kerry was the clear winner, but victory was snatched from him."

[bemis12]

1. Yeah, it's the debunked "Brad Menfil" email

[SharonRB]

8. Oh, I didn't realize this was old and had already been debunked

The date on it certainly didn't make any sense - 4/12/2004?

[bemis12]

11. Well, the date is

December 4, 2004. Most places internationaly use dd/mm/yy as their format.

[SharonRB]

15. Oh, duh --

I should have realized that!

[clydefrand]

13. The date: 4/12/2004 could be the European way of writing

12/04/2004. The article appears to have Spanish as well as English.

What do you think?

[sunnystarr]

17. Please show me where it's been debunked and don't tell me

MSNBC or CNN since they scoffed at Bush's bulge -- and we all know it wasn't poor tailoring or wrinkles.

I just spent the last 90 minutes searching and reading and couldn't find anyone that debunked it. In fact Michael Chossudovsky of www.globalresearch.ca put it up on that site http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MEN412A.html with a word of caution since it was controversial and not his real identity. However they felt it had enough merit to be posted.

I found some other postings by "Brad Menfill" (not his real name) that should be investigated. Since they are interspersed among many posts I'll list them here.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/299251.shtml
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MSNBC and CNN have the story 18.Oct.2004 21:03
"Brad Menfil"

Both organizations have the story but it's too hot to broadcast. They will wait until after the election and only if Kerry wins. Look no further than a company called "Tether Technologies in Columbia, Mo. This is the manufacturer of the device you see on Bush's back. The "wire" to Bush's ear is manufactured by an Israeli company and it is thinner than a human hair.
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Please Pass This Along 29.Oct.2004 22:06
Brad Menfil

The following is true:

1) 3,000 tons, not just 370 tons of Iraqi high explosives is missing.

2) Tether Technologies in Columbia, Mo. is registed under the name "A-Resolve, Inc." which is held by a company in Sydney, Australia. Does that far off place ring a bell?
3) The Michigan vote will be close due to technical issues surrounding the voting machines in mostly African-American Detroit. The voting machines are built in Sydney, Australia by A-Reslove,Inc. subsidiary "Voting Patterns." C

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Bin Laden Tape Was George Bush's October Surprise 29.Oct.2004 22:44
Brad Menfil

This is the worst thing my Repulican friends have ever done. What you saw yesterday was not Bin Laden. I repeat, it was not Bin Laden. I was a clever Republican hoax used to distract our attention from the missing explosives and help rally support around a dying campaign.

The news media picked it up and followed a predictable script. "Would this help Bush?" "Can Kerry say anything?"

Well, I can say something. That video was a hoax. The bearded man in the video is an actor and this plan has been in the making for about 3 months now. Since no credible evidence exist that Bin Laden is anywhere near a studio, the first chink in this armor is the "comfortable settings."

That Bin Laden can no longer stand for more than one minute at a time, gives away the authenticity of this newest video. Bin Laden is a diabetic and has had three toes removed from his left foot and almost his whole right foot has been removed as well.

The quality of the tape is surprising. Past Bin Laden videos have been raspy and somewhat cloudy or hazy.

The message I got was that is if this if this race remained tight to the end, this video would be circulated in order to boost George Bush's chances. You will notice that Bin Laden was insulting towards Bush in an effort to get the American people to rally around the president. It's the same as saying "I can talk bad about my brother but nobody else can. Well in this case, Bush is our "brother" who we will defend. It's classic playbook.

Please pass this along to anybody you can think of. Contact news organizations. I hate being the Lone Ranger out here but somebody has to do it.

Regards, "Brad Menfil"
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PLEASE DON'T IGNORE ME 30.Oct.2004 22:53
"BRAD MENFIL"

I keep warning everybody but nobody listens. My method of communication should not be the topic. I'm not using my real name, but I'm not a hoax either. You're all falling down in different directions. Let's get over it. The President did have a transmitter for all three debates, who cares now? No Bush supporter is going to change his/her vote.

The real danger is reelection. I am on the inside and I can tell you, there is more darkness here than in the caves of Afganistan. THE BIN LADEN VIDEO WAS PRODUCED HERE IN AMERICA WITH AN ACTOR. PLEASE NOTICE THAT IT WAS NON-COMMITTAL AND NON-SPECIFIC. This is the key. It scares people but doesn't tell them "what" they should be scared of. This is classic Karl Rove, please be aware. Halloween and Election Day are now the same holiday.

Spread the word!

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Bush Will Lose 01.Nov.2004 20:55
"Brad Menfil"

I've been reading, with some distress, negative comments about my postings. Trust me, I'm no Bush plant. I just know what happens when people speak up around here.

The campaign is depressed. Victory was lost in the last week as we discovered the uncounted (read 18-29 demographic), not the undecided, were breaking in a major way towards Kerry.

The Bin Laden tape was a fake and it was intended to steal this election. I TOLD YOU SO!

The hero of this election is Joe Lockhart, Sr. Advisor to the Kerry-Edwards campaign. The folks here at the RNC worried about Joe's return. You can check this out too if you'd like.

Here is where I stand: Scott Zale betrayed his true feelings. The Knoxville Times has a reach that extends beyond Australia which, as you know, is the Motherland of Rupert Murdock

Tether Technologies works undercover in Columbia, Missouri. There's no crack investigators on the Internet. I've given you all so many leads and clues and nobody has figured out how to substantiate them.

This is the last you'll hear from me. The campaign will be over tomorrow and Scott and I will be looking for work.

At least we know that Bush won't be re-elected. Good luck to all of you.
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Brad M. 03.Nov.2004 14:03
EasyRider

contact me. I have been digging more.
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Brad M contact me 03.Nov.2004 16:07
EasyRider

Brad contact me I think I see a bigger story. You are right we my not be investigative enough to deal with it.
Dark Days Ahead 07.Nov.2004 14:15

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Dark Days Ahead 07.Nov.2004 14:15
Brad Menfil link

All the shit we've figured out is just the tip of the shit iceberg.
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18,181? 12.Nov.2004 17:53
EasyRider

anybody found 18,181 in the vote totals? diffs or in any other manner?
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Election Fraud For Sure 16.Nov.2004 20:22
Brad Menfil

(The post already cited in original)
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http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/299251.shtml

Also this guy never sent out emails. Others copied his post and emailed it around.

Obviously it's in Repuke interest to blow this off as a conspiracy theory and minimalize it anyway possible.

We have to remember that this is very high stakes and it's not unusual to hear of "accidents" happening to people who threaten the status quo of political agendas. Not everyone has the courage to come forward but they also can't remain silent.

As an aside. The topic of the thread was "Bush Wired During Debate." One poster directed readers to an MSNBC video of the second debate to look for a wire by Bush's tie. I followed the directions:
"Go to:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6191353/

On the right, there's a video section that says "LIVE VIDEO". Underneath it you can navigate forward by clicking the arrow to the right. Click it till you get to number 6: "Is Draft Possible?" Then click the "Launch" button.

He will talk for about a minute. When he gets to this point, watch very closely:"

Well I went to the topic "Is Draft Possible" and ran the video. To my surprise the clip on the Gay question was there instead. Now why do you suppose that that clip is the only one missing?

Any investigators out there?

*edited to add clarification

[New Earth]

2. it's not 'voter fraud', it's ELECTION FRAUD

the voters did not commit the crime (except for maybe two incidents)

[Miami Liberal]

3. I changed it for you Faye.

:)

[New Earth]

4. lol thanks

:hi:

[flyarm]

6. can someone please tell me what the ignore means?? thx..n/t

[New Earth]

7. what? you mean if you see 'ignore' on a post?

it means you have the person on ignore so you don't to see their threads.

unless, you are wondering how to do it? you click the little sleeping guy next to the poster's name

[flyarm]

18. thank you faye..i must have put someone on ignore and not realized it!! n

[SharonRB]

5. This is amazing -- I've never seen this before

Looks like this site is from Quebec and if this person is for real, it could be a heavy duty smoking gun. We'll probably never find out who it is, though, in order to get first-hand testimony from him (based on his pen name, I assume it's a him). Everything he talks about is what we've all been talking about for weeks. One question, though, how come the story is dated 4/12/2004? That doesn't make any sense at all. I think this could be a plant. Anyone familiar with the site?

[VTGold]

9. Its been all over the Web for months on different sites...

...he also claimed to know that Bush wore a wire for the debates

[SharonRB]

10. I guess it was before I started coming out to DU

Sorry for reacting so quickly. I knew it sounded too good to be true.

[Miami Liberal]

12. Thanks for clearing that up

I got a little too excited there for a minute.

[juajen]

16. So, would you share how it was debunked?

I'm just curious, since it is anonymous. How do you go about debunking something that is "anonymous"? It just couldn't be because it was all over the net. I have read it previously, it was posted either here or somewhere I was surfing. Of course, it would be a dream come true for dems, if it wasn't "anonymous".

[super simian]

14. Great Find!

Salient quote;

'So this will all come out and be known to everyone. Nothing this massive can be kept a secret. You're already beginning to see these "irregularities" and the whisper will become a roar."

There are only 100 senators. This is a tiny group of people. MM has put the spotlight on the role of the senate in this process.

If no senator stands up this country is in EXTREMELY SERIOUS TROUBLE. It is the end of democracy as we know it and believed it to be. It is time to batten down the hatches.

Excuse my fucking tin hat. The shaming of activists started long ago in the sixties. Thanks to that we got the forty something sell out yuppie ass kissers.

Activists need new clothes. They have bleeding hearts on them.



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