Kerry in Newsweek

[roenyc]

This interview was done in mid November and it reminds me how much i liked this man and how much respect i had for him. especially the last paragraph. damn i hate the people in charge right now.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6777696/site/newsweek/
"Why did he lose? Kerry points to history and, in a somewhat inferential, roundabout way, to his own failure to connect to voters—a failure that kept him from erasing the Bush campaign's portrait of him as a flip-flopper. Kerry said that he was proud of his campaign, that he had nearly defeated a popular incumbent who had enjoyed a three-year head start on organizing and fund-raising. Sitting presidents are never defeated in wartime, he insisted (true, though two, LBJ and Harry Truman, chose not to run for another term during Vietnam and Korea). Kerry did not wish to be directly quoted touting himself, however; he did not wish to appear defensive or boastful."

[RC]

1. Why doesn't Kerry every mention anything

about Election Fraud? That is the real reason he lost.
I get the impression he wanted to lose. Even during the campaign powerful stops were not pulled.

[roenyc]

2. i thought the same thing

when i read the article. first read a short snip it in the daily news. pissed that it came out today 2 days before the BIG day.

but this was done in mid Nov. so maybe he didn't think we would actually prove fraud.

you know something? i dont believe myself. i really dont.

i read on the Indy media board the theory that he doesn't want to be responsible for the draft that might be coming.

everyone has a theory. but he isn't biting. in this article anyway.

[ebayfool]

3. Old interview, Nov 11 - They are dragging it out now, just in time for ...

Conyers & Jan 6. The article wasn't interested in what he had to say, it's a hack job. Been trotted out all over DU today (yesterday, now) just to get the Dem circular squad fired up again at their candidate. & boy howdy, it's been working!

[righteous1]

5. The reason it's out now is that the author Evan Thomas

has a book on the 2004 election breaking this week. They are just hyping it's release

[ebayfool]

6. I saw that, but I think it's dissemination all over the forums has been ...

(lots of people can't seem to wait to jump on any crumb to start the bitching over & over) just to get the Dem circular squad fired up again at their candidate. Some are repeating it unwittingly, others I know are deliberately stirring the pot. The writer really wasn't interested in what he had to say, it's a condescending & snide piece. Don't they have any Newsweek guys in Iraq? Embedding themselves? Don't they need one more? A fine reporter such as this should feel obliged to do his patriotic duty & do some fine reporting over there!

/rant off ... It's been a long, horrible day & reading all these attacks on Kerry have just gotten my Irish up! Sorry!

[BreakForNews]

11. Newsweek Hit Piece:..... NY Times hit Piece......

Newsweek Hit Piece:
Interview Paints Kerry as Confused, Loser


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6777696/site/newsweek

Newsweek's new issue has a Kerry interview --timed to hit the shelves
just as moves are made to challenge the electoral college votes for
Ohio on Jan 6th, 2005.

Here's the last sentence, to give you a flavor: "He seemed vulnerable
for a moment, then caught himself, smiled and walked home to his empty
house."

Yes, the interview --from 11th Nov., 2004 -- is a completely
over-the-top depiction of Kerry as a loser, confused and lonely. Not
that it's trying to pressure anybody. No, not at all. It's just a
coincidence. Ok?


Hit Piece II:
So What Happened
in That Election, Anyhow?


http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/DemocratsEntangled.htm

Here's the first sentence of a New York Times hit piece designed to
fog the building movement to challenge the electoral college votes on
Jan. 6th., 2005 :

"With the exception of a few Democratic outliers in Ohio, few people
dispute that the election for president is done and decided: President
Bush won and John Kerry lost." :)

That's what you call getting your denial in first. Make no mistake,
an article starting like that, clearly indicates that the election
fraud movement has arrived! Here we go!

Fintan Dunne, Editor
http://www.BreakFOrNews.com

[Is It Fascism Yet]

4. u r right and i feel betrayed by the concession

when the polls had not even been closed 24 hours yet and fraud was evident everywhere.

[emulatorloo]

7. This Interview was conducted on NOVEMBER 11th EOM

[merh]

9. How's it feel to fall for a Rove trick?

But on Nov. 11, nine days after the election, Kerry summoned a NEWSWEEK reporter to his house on Boston's fashionable Louisberg Square. He wanted to complain about NEWSWEEK's election issue, which he said was unduly harsh and gossipy about him, his staff and his wife.

They released this old interview now, trying to make Kerry look like a flip/flopper (again) when the stuff starts happening this week.

[HeatherG.]

13. Kerry Really Wanted to be President

I think the reason stops were not pulled was fear. If Kerry played rougher, Bush would play rougher. Republicans are ruthless. That is why the Kerry camp played it safe. Republicans are better at being nasty. If he ran again, it might be easier. The flip-flop charge would be stale. He wouldn't have to run against Bush. Bush has a powerful hold on a large chunk of the population for some reason which I can not fathom. The first time I saw Bush I thought he looked like an inbred blue blood jerk. My first impression was quickly confirmed.

[newyawker99]

14. Hi HeatherG.!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[HeatherG.]

15. Hi

Thanks for the welcome. I have actually been lurking for two or three years now, but have not felt compelled to post until now.

[merh]

8. Stop posting this damned article without calling to the attention of

all that the INTERVIEW WAS GIVEN ON NOVEMBER 11, 2004. Almost 2 months ago the man was interviewed and now this is in the MSM. What, do you work for rove? This is a flip/flop effort. Be complete in your post for God's sake.

[roenyc]

10. Did you go to school with bush?

obviously you cant read! i put it right in the first sentence.

you know you all can take a hike.

[merh]

12. Sorry, this thing has made the rounds for the last two days.

You could have listed Kerry's NOVEMBER 11, 2004 interview in Newsweek!

Rove trick, rove trick

[roenyc]

16. are you accusing me of

being some Rove person or worse a damn freeper? talk about your paranoia. guys people read this stuff. try not to get to hysterical about things. we are all in this together.

i didn't realize this was posted before. i just wanted to share with you guys some Kerry. thats all.

i will think twice before i post again. thought i was among the friendly. but after spending a few weeks here i see i am among some hysteria.

if this makes you crazy to the point you think its a Rove plant maybe you should write to Senator Kerry and ask him why did HE request the damn interview. doesn't that make you wonder?

[ebayfool]

17. "Try not to get to hysterical" - good idea, don't ...get too hysterical!

Just hard to understand a supporter waxing lyrical about a clearly snotty hit piece, that's why it makes some of us crazy!

"...and ask him why did HE request the damn interview. doesn't that make you wonder?"
Says in this little gem "He wanted to complain about NEWSWEEK's election issue, which he said was unduly harsh and gossipy about him, his staff and his wife." Didn't you read all of it? That makes me wonder, yes!

[roenyc]

18. yes i read it

it was done the day before the first court filing. it wasn't snotty and wasn't a hit piece. it was mostly john Kerry's words. unless Newsweek made them up.

i didn't know it was posted before.

and yeah it does make me wonder why? if he is trying to stay under the radar and not bring attention to this fraud of an election why would he offer this little tidbit to Newsweek.

but hey i can pretend too. yes the Newsweek people took everything out of context. made it up.

now another thing. if you think no one knows about this you are all only fooling yourselves because it was in every news paper across the country yesterday.

so what is the problem if we discuss the positive aspects of this article of which there are many.

like i said in my opening sentence it reminded me why i voted for him and how much i respect him.

so if you think thats a freeper then you people have no clue what a neo-con or a freeper is and have been way to comfortable at moderated DU too long.

[ebayfool]

19. Tone & flavor, snotty and a hit piece.

Hummm, where to start - where to start? So many to chose from! Guess I better limit to the following tidbits (would want to offend anyone who hasn't "been way to comfortable at moderated DU too long." Unlike like other places we know & love, right?)



"...if you think no one knows about this you are all only fooling yourselves."
WTF? Who said this (besides you, of course)

"so if you think thats a freeper then you people have no clue ..."
I didn't call you that, but - fine. Shoe/fits/wear.

"hey i can pretend too."
Obviously.

"... discuss the positive aspects of this article of which there are many."
Wax away, some just don't seem to see the 'many' you are so fond of.

[merh]

20. No, just saying you were punked by Rove, or as I like to call it

"you were roved". PT Barnum says one is born every day and rove knows that and uses it to his advantage. Its a sucker article put out for the effect it has caused, you played right into the game and keep playing into as you defend the post and get mad when others point out that the post is just silly.

Of course, this is just my silly ole opinion.

[roenyc]

21. was kerry punked into doing the article?

come on, sometimes we have to look a little deeper into kerry's eyes. he said what he said. and he knew on nov 11th that a lawsuit was being filed by the glibs. so i just wonder sometimes if we are not facing some reality about our democracy and our candidate. i like the man so dont get me wrong please. i dont think he would be doing whatever he is doing unless he had too.

thought you were calling me a freeper. sorry i got angry.

[merh]

22. Kerry gave an interview because he was upset about the way they

maligned his wife. Go read again.

Since the 11th of November, a lot has been uncovered. The question is not Kerry's mindset, but why did it take 2 months for this article to be published, what purpose does that serve?