Al Franken is an idiot

[malatesta1137]

Just cut a caller short who accused Bush of stealing the election. The caller also tried to voice his disappointment in Kerry for caving so fast.

Franken is the type of Democrat Bush can walk all over. A wimp and a phony.

Franken, before I forget, go fuck yourself.

[Worst Username Ever]

1. He is letting his own political aspirations get in the way n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Correct and right now you cannot YET fuck wiht the DLC

[musette_sf]

3. agreed

Al just needs to step away from the microphone, and let others more qualified and less invested in the status quo do the job.

[glitch]

26. If true then he's making his first really big political mistake.

Poo-pooing election fraud without investigation or even simple coverage of the issue is not a sign of leadership.
Perhaps we can get Laura Flanders to run somewhere. Or Mike Malloy. Can you imagine him on c-span every day? Would give Robert Byrd a break.

[spooked911]

4. at least he's not big and fat! But shame on him nonetheless for sticking

his head in the sand.

[mattclearing]

5. Amen.

I know you love tearing up Kerry on his early concession.

That said, you have my blessings in this condemnation.

[JoMama49]

6. Hey, wait a minute! At least he's finally talking about

election fraud. He just said he's goling to have people on from MIT to see what they have on Ohio -- he's been silent on this issue for so long, I think we need to give him Kudos for finally talking about it!

[merh]

13. He wasn't talking about election fraud - the caller was and he

brushed him off. Told him the election wasn't stolen, chuckled at him for saying that and told him that Bush's policies may be bad, but he is not evil. :puke: FAF!

[BigBearJohn]

39. Now I'm aggravated with him

Personally, I don't care for him on the air.
I like Stacey Taylor much better (on AM in San Diego KLSD)
I did enjoy hearing Al speak, but now I can't
believe he would do something like this. I just wrote
him an email expressing my disappointment with him.
The LEAST he could have done was have an open discussion
with the caller. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

[Niche]

7. I can't listen to Al anymore... Mike Malloy Kicks it though!

I'm on Randi Rhodes right now hoping Ohio will be covered with Jesse Jackson et al... I WANT TO GET NEWS! DAMN IT!

[skypilot]

8. I hadn't listened to him in a while...

...and I was VERY disappointed with him today. Too many skits. And his response when he was informed that Shirley Chisolm had died was disgraceful.

[quiet.american]

17. Could you elaborate on Franken's response?

I only listened to the first hour or so and missed his response to the news of Shirley Chisholm's death.

[skypilot]

21. Sorry it took me so long to respond.

He was talking to a guest (I've forgotten who it was) and the death of Congressman Matsui was mentioned. The guess then mentioned that we'd also lost Chisolm and Franken simply responded, "Uuuhhh, yeah." He then mumbled something which I couldn't make out.

[Garbo 2004]

41. Yeah, I heard that too. I heard his comment it was some sort of

short pat response and then he moved on. Like it was an interruption in his script. Not overtly dismissive if one gives him the benefit of the doubt (and some may not), but just like someone responding to the news of perhaps half a million killed by the tsunami with a mumbled "yes, that's unfortunate."

I didn't expect a 5 minute hymn of praise for Chisholm, but I thought the manner of his response was peculiar.

(edit: wasn't the guest Howard Fineman? He was on around that time as I think I recall.)

[skypilot]

47. "interruption in his script"

That's a very good description of what it sounded like. It was extremely off-putting. It's almost like something we'd expect from Bush.

[quiet.american]

52. Thanks much for getting back with me on that n/t

[propagandafreegal]

20. I noticed that too. He was disgraceful. I'm going to email him NOW.

[yojon]

9. I think he doesnt want to piss off the DLC

Still I'm very grateful to him for his part in Air America!

[VTGold]

10. MIT is tied into the White House - they get tons of Missile Defense money..

...wouldn't trust anything they say.

Anywho - their initial report debunking the idea of election fraud was based on the ALTERED exit polls.

[Al-CIAda]

16. MIT=CIA, used to cover and disinform - eom

.

[Helga Scow Stern]

24. Yes, and aren't they also connected to CalTech in an enterprise which

supports the use of voting machines? Eloriel had some info on that, if I recall correctly.

[anaxarchos]

54. Caltech-MIT/Voting Technology Project

Mostly shills for the machine companies.

Here is their site:

http://www.vote.caltech.edu/

That doesn't make everyone at MIT (or Caltech) "evil", however. Lot's of good people at MIT who have been on the side of exposing fraud in the 2004 elections.

[merh]

11. This may be a histoy making post, but I have to agree with you

malatesta1137! Franken is a sick joke. He is a pathetic, whiny excuse for a dem/liberal. Wouldn't you have loved being around him during the civil rights era, "but they give those people their own fountain for pet's sake!" He brushed that poor guy off so quickly, made excuses for the BFEE and corrected the guy when he said the election was stolen!

I will join you in the rant - Franken, go fuck yourself! :argh:

[budkin]

12. He's been acting like a eunuch since the election...

WHERE ARE YOUR BALLS FRANKEN??

[demodonkey]

14. I don't listen to Al anymore; he's not even funny. Wish AAR got somebody..

else. I find that "oy oy oy" stuff ignorant. If I want to hear support for ** I can listen to Limpballs at the same hour.

[soleft]

15. It's his condescending tone that pisses me off the most

I haven't listened to him since he sounded like he needed electric shock therapy on election night

[Wilms]

18. Don't worry. He's just an entertainer. n/t

Right now, we've enough citizens contesting the election.

What's important is what happens in the House, Senate, and Courts.

In fact, let Franken tell the Freeps who monitor his show to "move along, nothing here to worry over".

[propagandafreegal]

19. I haven't been pleased w/ Franken since the election ro..

Doesn't he realize that Wellstone was murdered?

[garybeck]

22. I haven't listened to Franken since 11/3

my only hope for him is that he's on Kerry's stealth bomber.

[Broken Acorn]

23. Franken RIP 11/2/04

Al sucks ass these days.

Did anyone notice he when he was gone in Iraq how much better his show was? Maybe AAR will get a clue and return his new contract.

[Stand and Fight]

25. Amen to that!

Al Franken seems to have lost his secular wit and his balls all in one shot. How pathetic, how sad.

[mzmolly]

27. Perhaps he just disagrees with you?

He's definately not someone who will be "walked all over" by anybody.

He just takes a while to come around sometimes.

[garybeck]

28. no, he's closed minded and he's not looking at the facts

that's different than disagreeing.

he's also getting more and more egotistical as each day passes. one day his head is going to explode

[mzmolly]

32. "Facts" that word seems subjective like so many others.

He is looking at one set of so called facts, some of us ... another.

I love Franken, don't always agree with him, but he's an asset to "us" IMHO.

[garybeck]

35. no, the facts are the facts

what happened in Ohio is illegal and a travesty to our democracy. the correlation between voting machine allocation and party affiliation is undeniable.

it's not a matter of our facts and his facts. it's about refusing to investigate.

[mzmolly]

37. You say the "facts" are such and such, another person will say the "facts"

are opposite.

And, the issue of fraud is still being investigated.

Look at some sites debunking our so called facts. I'm not ready personally to be so arrogant.

[garybeck]

40. at some point you have to accept a fact as a fact

when an employee of Triad admits to providing cheat sheets for the election officials and suggests that they use the cheat sheets instead of actually counting the ballots, that is a fact.

When you look at the voting machine allocation and see that there is a direct correlation between the number of voting machines per voter and the percentage of democrats registered in that precinct, that is a fact.

It doesn't make one arrogant to call a fact a fact.

[mzmolly]

50. Once again, facts to me and you are not facts that prove fraud to

everybody in the Country. As you know it's not accepted as "fact" that this election was stolen.

[nashville_brook]

55. only in BUSHworld n/t

[malatesta1137]

29. he's a fraud

he's using his radio time for political purposes, as if we needed another cowardly, wimpy and fake 'liberal' to represent us in Congress.

[mzmolly]

33. He's a "centrist" who doesn't always agree with me on everything.

That's fine by me, and if he runs I'll donate/volunteer and work like hell for him.

I'm also in Minnesota, and am proud of Franken and his "truth telling" ass :P ...

He also admits when he's wrong, so if the fraud issue is a given, he'll come around.

:hi:

[rodeodance]

30. i tend not to be so harsh--we each do what we can at given moments

[mzmolly]

34. Exactly. I become so disgusted with the mentality that all Democrats

liberals must agree on everything in order to be respected.

*sheesh*

[Not a Sheep]

31. I didn't hear the show....

.... but I have been disppointed in Al's opinion of the election. However, it is his opinion and I think that he simply doesn't believe there's anough evidence. I'm sure if he did, he would have no problem speaking out. Afterall, Al has taunted O'Reilly and Fox to sue him.

Not everyone who is on "our side" agrees on everything. Certainly people on this Forum do not agree on all details. If people who disagree listen to each other openly without attacking and getting pissed, maybe people will learn something.

[shaggy briard]

36. Hope he doesn't run for MN Sen

We'd get a mediocre senator and lose a good comedian

[katinmn]

42. Yes. Well, we've had great and now we have horrible (Coleman)

I was hoping Al would be a contender but I'm disappointed that he hasn't stood up for equality.



edit: streamlining

[OKthatsIT]

38. I have been feeling the same way about AL

He's not worth listening to anymore...I turn to Thom Hartmann at noon est

[Bill Bored]

43. Give Al a break

Think of where we'd be now without Air America!

On the Oy, oy, oy Show today, he said something like, "Why was Jeb Bush sent to Indonesia? To show them how to rig an election?" So give him a break.

His show is getting a bit boring lately, but so are some of these exit poll threads, IMHO. Everyone has a right to their opinion though and we are lucky to have Al trying to make some sense out of all this crap.

[slackmaster]

44. Al Franken handled the call very well

Al Franken was right.

[4dsc]

45. Defeatist Democrat's

That what you call liberals like Al and the most for the others on AAR.. I had to quit listening to them as a result for their defeatist attitudes..

[Sydnie]

46. He appears to have become

as astute as the idiot baggage handler he played in Trading Places. He will be wanting his turn to drive the "democrats cargo" around and the train will have left the station without him.

His show was better when he was in Iraq and they had trouble getting him on the phone!

[autorank]

48. Haha. Agree with the show review. Connason was great!

[nashville_brook]

56. those were good -- his co-host is much better than he is

he's always cutting her off. annoying.

[Bill Bored]

49. I must say though that I heard one of those MIT guys on another show

and he was talking total trash! The fact is that he had no way to show the vote was verifiable and therefore no way to say the election wasn't hacked. Nevertheless, my understanding is that they are in favor of the VVPB, and combined with the appropriate, mandatory, TRULY RANDOM auditing, this can work. It might not be the BEST solution, but I think it can work and it's infinitely better than what we have now. The guy really pissed me off though!

[madison2000]

51. I like Franken but he has his axe to grind and its right wing radio

He should just DO LEFTY RADIO and not make his audience listen to clips of right wing crap. If I want to hear Rush Limbaugh, I'll find him. I don't want to turn on Franken and hear Limbaugh, what's the point?

[pauldp]

53. Al has wussed out and become part of the problem. n/t