MSNBC just reported that Barbara Boxer is likely to challenge!

[mzmolly]

:toast:

Contact her and support her in her decision to do so:

Senator Boxer's Offices:

Sacramento
501 I Street, Suite 7-600
Sacramento, CA 95814
[phone]
[phone] fax

San Francisco
1700 Montgomery Street, Suite 240
San Francisco, CA 94111
[phone]
[phone] fax

Los Angeles
312 N. Spring Street, Suite 1748
Los Angeles, CA 90012
[phone]
[phone] fax

Fresno
1130 O Street, Suite 2450
Fresno, CA 93721
[phone]
[phone] fax

San Diego
600 B Street, Suite 2240
San Diego, CA 92101
[phone]
[phone] fax

Inland Empire
201 North E Street, Suite 210
San Bernardino, CA 92401
[phone]
[phone] fax

I didn't get an answer at:

Washington D.C.
112 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
[phone]

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. Are you serious?!? Link?!??!

[cyberpj]

11. no link - this was msnbc on television - but

check the msnbc news pages to see if they follow through and post something there...

[roenyc]

2. they said the word election?

Wow

[mzmolly]

3. Yes they did.

Challenge with the House members and force a debate.

[SueZhope]

8. what show was it? n/t

[cyberpj]

38. MSNBC news

[cyberpj]

4. And also that it will change nothing - Bush w/be elected.

Perhaps they have to say that. But he implied that it will just be a chance to be heard -- and it means nothing.

[mzmolly]

9. He said that Bush will be elected, but that it would force a debate

and a debate is necessary. It's one way we can prevent some of these issues from rotting our electoral system for years to come.

[cyberpj]

35. agreed -

I just wanted them to take it a bit more seriously when they finally HAD to announce it would be challenged. You know, like --'gee --wonder what sort of things we don't know about yet.....'

I know, way too much to ask of this corporate media.

[McCamy Taylor]

5. They are reporting it as a done deal.

[jsascj]

58. Those little smilies are sooooo cute! n/t

[wtmusic]

Oh yeah

I love her.

Can we transfer some stem cells from her spine to Harry Reid's?

[garybeck]

6. i just got a friggin chill up my spine n/t

[fooj]

52. I'm in tears...

maybe we have made a difference!! OMG!!!


WHAT ARE THEY HIDING???:think: :think: :think:

[Deb]

7. Woo Hoo! I heard it too!

She's "leaning heavily". :bounce:

[SueZhope]

12. they used those words?

:loveya: :loveya::bounce: :bounce:

[crispini]

10. I heard it too!

I went down to my car to listen to the MSNBC audio feed on my XM!

They said that Stephanie Tubbs-Jones was in and Boxer was "leaning heavily."

I was sitting in the parking lot screaming and pounding the steering wheel! Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[bones_7672]

13. New Republic Online (rightwing) says the same, PLUS

they say after the 2 hour debate there will be a voice vote to deny the challenge.

[mzmolly]

17. Very interesting.

:wow:

One can hope ... for one more day.

[YDogg]

14. What is the practical effect ...

... of this?

I'm all for it if it causes debate, inspection, re-counts, aggravation, etc., I just don't know what it actually leads to. Has this happened before?

[mzmolly]

19. It hasn't happened before and that means it will have an impact.

If nothing else, they will take the issue of voting equality seriously.

[bones_7672]

22. Or will it be spun as "those sour Dems just can't leave the Prez alone"?

[YDogg]

25. That's what I figure ...

... the spinners will have people believing.

[Tom Rinaldo]

31. Yes, many will say just that

But this isn't only about the 2004 Election, as critical as that is. It is about taking all of the steps needed to protect the underpinnings of our Democracy, even if the effects come to late to undo this low point in American History.

Since Boxer and hopefully others standing up now will be historic, it can't be completely ignored, and completely ignored is the Republican and media strategy: "A few small glitches but the Election overall went smoothly, and aren't those new touch screen voting machines nifty, and so easy to use..."

Blast that myth right our of the water. Make our elected representatives seriously deal with the lack of voting safe guards. Make the media acknowledge that there IS a real issue here, even if they cling to accepting that Bush won this time.

Boxer would show courage in going up against the scorn that will be coming her way if she stands for us tomorrow. I will never forget her, and any other Democrat (or Republican) who shows that courage.

[crispini]

27. They may spin it that way, but WE'LL know.

Our Democratic leadership fecking well needs to stand up and grow a spine. If they don't do this they'll just piss off their base. I don't care what the MSM say, if someone does this then it will restore my faith in the Democratic party.

[mzmolly]

30. True, but I never fret about what Republicans think about me.

You see, we have different goals.

[Vinnie From Indy]

44. Had they ever stopped?

I am puzzled by so many posters that seem to believe that the overall political situation would change for the worse if the Democrats challenge the highly suspect election results of the November '04 elections. It seems to me that the MSM and the G.O.P. Rove controlled machine has been "spinning" the Democrats to death for the last few years on every issue. How much worse can it get? We have lost power nationally and are in the process of handing the G.O.P. control over the majority of the state governments. If we continue to sit back and wring our hands with worry and not fight THIS battle, we will someday wake to find the radical right wing and the fundies adding amendments to the Constitution at will with nothing to stop them. This fight is about so much more than John Kerry and we need to realize that time is not on our side.

[YDogg]

23. I hope so ...

... I just hope this is actually reported on ... not swept aside by the networks and papers.

[mzmolly]

32. I do to, but I think it will be hard to sweep aside a "historical" moment

as this will be.

[Stand and Fight]

46. It has happened before.

1969.

[mzmolly]

49. 35 years ago? I wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

I don't know if MSNBC reported that?

:hi:

[mzmolly]

55. Actually it was in 1877.

At least according to the MSM and many DU-ers whom I trust.

[Pirate Smile]

28. I saw somewhere that both the House and Senate will go to their

chambers and the leadership would confer and decide how to do the debate.

That part sounds like trouble to me.

How "open" do we think the leadership of the Senate and House are going to be about debating these issues?

You know they will do everything they can to try to limit and suppress any airing of all the problems that occurred.

Has anyone else heard much about what would happen if it would get to this point?

[DaedelusNemo]

64. Hard to imagine a better way to kick off democrat campaign

"The republicans won't even let you hear about what happened in the last election"

[In Truth We Trust]

15. Draft Boxer: The first female President of the United States

Thanks BB

BB in '08

[cyberpj]

39. I'm with you - all those we thought would be heroes - where are they?

[ntwkgirl]

16. Just called Sac office

They were SO nice! I was dissapointed that I got through on the first try (it should be ringing off the hook)

Come on people...dial!!!!!

[tridim]

18. Anyone know the schedule for tomorrow's fireworks?

I don't want to miss it.

[bones_7672]

20. By the Constitution, they meet at 1 pm (Eastern)

If there is a challenge, there will be a two-hour debate, followed by a vote to accept or reject the electors.

[crispini]

21. 1 pm EST. n/t

[cyberpj]

43. CNN will broadcast at 1pm BUT - tune in earlier if you want to hear

a bit of the flack on Gonzoles nomination.

[rdmccur]

24. Check this out

Posted on Kos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/5/5550/16402

[Chimpanzee]

59. Sorry. I can't seem to find that story.

[Tom Rinaldo]

26. I made the call. God bless her if she stands. n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

33. Pity if she stands alone.

:-( ALL Democratic Senators should stand with her!

[mzmolly]

36. Oh goodness here we go. "I'm still leaving the party because only one

lousy Senator stood up for ..."

Sometimes Senators speak and decide who would be secure in taking a stand like this. I am sure she's getting lots of behind the scenes support, if she does stand.

[Orsino]

53. I'll be severely disappointed...

...if the rest of her party leaves her to stand alone. Once she commits herself, it should become a *lot* easier for the rest to join in.

[mzmolly]

54. I'll add you to the list of perpetually disapointed folks.

:hi:

Next.

[Orsino]

62. Is There Some Reason...

...that we should *not* be perpetually disappointed? I'm not yet to the point that I'm completely jaded by all the corruption.

A significant challenge to the so-called election would be a good thing, but the fact of the Unelected Fraud will remain. The fascists will continue their assault on human life, the environment, and democracy. If I get to cheer for a few minutes tomorrow, the state of American politics will still suck.

See y'all at the bar. :toast:

[mzmolly]

63. You are correct, but we have to APPLAUD and CHEER those DEMOCRATS

who are fighting.

I tire of the lack of recognition those who take up the good fight get.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

29. woo, woo

I don't think we'll win, but, damn it, we have to show them we KNOW they stole it. And maybe more than a few people out there will get the clue too.
Happy day today!

[Orsino]

34. Just Made the Call...

...and got right through (Sacramento office). I mentioned the rumor, and said that I hoped the Senator would have the courage to take that important step, that many of us are pulling for her. The very nice receptionist said she would "pass that on to her."

[spooked911]

37. Wow! She rocks!!!!!

:headbang: :loveya: :party:

[Imagevision]

40. Last time a challendge was made was in 1877

So Jan. 6th could certainly make history!

[Pithy Cherub]

41. Called the LA office for Senator Boxer!

They said they would pass it on! Go Barbara Boxer! :yourock:

[Califooyah Operative]

42. nice...the sacramento numbers's mailbox is full.......nt

[crispini]

45. Poster in LBN says they have confirmation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1123762&mesg_id=1123874&page=

Take w. grain of salt, of course.

[cyberpj]

47. VERY VERY COOL. Thanks.

Now let's hope she can stand up to the pressure.

Or maybe that this means others will join her now that the first one has said yes.


Going to call friends now and invite them to join me for a CSPAN luncheon so we can all watch together. :toast:

[Califooyah Operative]

48. Yea, a big grain of salt.....

I just called and talked to a lady at the fresno office, she said she hadn't made a decision yet......

keep the calls going

[bluejaypop]

50. Email Senator Boxer Too

Dear Senator Boxer:

I want to commend you for your upcoming COURAGEOUS action in objecting along with many of your House colleagues to to acceptance of Ohio's slate of electors. History will judge the disenfranchisement of primarily African-American voters very harshly. There was an effective POLL TAX on November 2nd. The pictures and videos of the lines in Ohio confirm this fact. I believe a thorough investigation of voting 'mistabulations' and election officials actions must be begun right now. I know you share the view that vote suppression is totally Un-American.

As a middle-class white guy living in the midwest it makes me feel ashamed and outraged that the Ohio SOS and other election officials would treat people that way when all these people were trying to do was VOTE as is their RIGHT.

Unless someone stands up and holds the actions of this ruthless administration to task I believe democracy as we know it will be lost. This administration does not compromise, period. Please yell loud and long and hold their feet to the fire!

You can be assured that by standing up against this travesty that history will judge you kindly - you must be absolutely confident of that! When you stand up for democracy you will have the undying admiration of millions!


Jim Williams
Seward, NE

[Chimpanzee]

61. The page you requested cannot be displayed.

[StephanieMarie]

51. Just called and left my support! n/t

[bluejaypop]

56. Thanks for posting Sen Boxer's Office Numbers

Just called her Sacramento office and said her upcoming objection to Ohio's electors was truly courageous in the face of a hostile/negligent MSM and that she would have the admiration of millions for this action.

[Moloch]

57. I just called Senator Boxer's L.A. office

They said that she has not issued an opinion.

[mzmolly]

60. Yes, and MSNBC says she's considering the measure.

So keep calling folks.