Kerry SHOULD be here when the 2004 election THEFT is contested!

[MoonRiver]

FUCK all this garbage that its a good idea for him to be in Iraq or WHEREVER when HIS stolen presidency is openly opposed by the few and the brave who are willing to stand up and fight for our democracy!!!! What are we, CRAZY????? Do we want our leader, who promised to fight for us all the way, to go into hiding just when his country needs him the most???

If Kerry is gone during the election contest, HE IS FINISHED on a national level. NO Senator or House Rep. who DOES NOT OPPOSE THIS OUTRAGE should ever be even slightly considered for the Democratic nomination!

[mzmolly]

1. Oh. my. god.

:nopity:

[fertilizeonarbusto]

2. thanks, mzmolly.

lol

[MoonRiver]

5. So its OK with you if he goes AWOL during the election contest?

Just askin'. :shrug:

[mzmolly]

16. Yup.

Just tellin'

[Pirate Smile]

21. It's OK with me too.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

I think it's smart

Remember Soreloserman? The easiest way to discredit the effort to expose this theft is for the Rethugs and their media lackeys to paint it as a case of self-interest on Kerry's part. Just answering you.

[mzmolly]

Amazing answer at that!

:toast:

May I use this quote?

[fertilizeonarbusto]

37. be my guest

Anything for someone with that brave man for an avatar :hi:

[ClassWarrior]

27. What?? The Bush Baby**'s the one who went AWOL.

I'm sure JK's office knows exactly where to find him.

<LMFAO>

NGU.

[TayTay]

34. Yup

Cuz this is not about Kerry. It is about Election Fraud. This is an issue that transcends any particular politician or any one election. The fraud was not unacceptable because one guy lost, it is unacceptable because it is treasonous to American values.

Since it was Kerry's name on the ballot, he does not have a whole lot of legitimacy to stand up tomorrow. And even if a Senator stands up tomorrow, nothing will happen and * will still be inaugurated. There simply wasn't enough time to convince enough Americans that the elction was a fraud in certain states between 11/2 and now. What Kerry needs to pledge to is convincing Sen. Reid that his new plan to have Dem Sens have hearings on wrongdoings going on include Election Fraud. It is not an issue that dies tomorrow. It is an outrage against American democracy. We need people to stand up down the line and not forget this and make sure something happens to fix it. That is not going to happen tomorrow.

[Darknyte7]

7. LOL!

You beat me to the smiley I was gonna use here...

[mzmolly]

15. Sorry man!

:hi:

[Blue_In_AK]

3. Get a grip, PetRock n/t

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

4. Gee, you're not a little too radical, are you?

Lay off the crack, okay?

[AllyCat]

6. Wisc. public radio actually talked about vote fraud today

(at the 11th hour). Their guest was John Boniface (sp?) and he said the same thing...what the heck is Kerry doing in the middle east? If none of them speak out about this, I will not vote for another Dem incumbent who was part of this bending-over of the American people.

[MoonRiver]

10. Thank you for that.

Seems the DLC apologists are out in force today. Nice to hear some sanity.

[sepia_steel]

8. Good lawd.

Someone get this d00d a valium.

[Pirate Smile]

9. He was in Jordon yesterday and we don't know where he went to

today so it is too late.

He may be finished with you but that doesn't mean he is finished with everyone.

Speak for yourself alone.

[MoonRiver]

12. I never said I was speaking for anyone but myself.

[Pirate Smile]

19. I guess I missed the qualifiers in your statement "HE IS FINISHED".

[MoonRiver]

22. OK, I'll qualify it by saying he is finished WITH ME.

Happy? :eyes:

[Pirate Smile]

26. Ecstatic!

:party: :bounce: :toast:

[impeachthescoundrel]

11. Into hiding?

Think whatever you like. I am, have always been, and will always be a Democrat. I have lived long enough to recognize a man who is using his brain.

[SlowDownFast]

13. NO HE SHOULDN'T

it would be too awkward......think about it.

he is in Iraq, anyway, which is EXACTLY WHERE HE SHOULD BE.

[tx_dem41]

14. MyPetRock....you didn't hear the new news? Keep it to yourself...

but its part of a secret plan.

[MoonRiver]

20. Uh huh.

I don't post here much anymore, and this thread is giving me ample reasons to continue that trend. Some people want to live in lala land, and I'm still stuck in reality. But I guess delusion has its advantages. :crazy:

[tx_dem41]

24. Nope....my feet are firmly planted in reality....

others...well, I'll let them speak for themselves.

[MoonRiver]

29. FYI, I wasn't referring to you.

Nobody in particular. There's just a trend on DU toward fantasy that is very discouraging.

[tx_dem41]

32. Well if you did like it...

this would be the right forum for it, unfortunately.

[MoonRiver]

36. I don't like speaking obliquely.

I didn't quite understand where you were coming from in your original post to me. So, I didn't address my response in regard to you, or anybody, in particular.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

25. I think you are closely skirting

being insulting. Whatever.

[tx_dem41]

38. I apologize if I am....

Sorry.

[MoonRiver]

39. I think that was in reference to me, not you.

Just a heads up.

[tx_dem41]

45. You're right....

and thank you for the heads up! :hi:

[AllyCat]

28. Part of the plan?

What plan have they had all along? No way. I hope I eat crow on this one, but they have no plan and with a few notable exceptions, they will go along with this ratification without a peep.

[candice]

17. Flood Hastert and Frisk with phone calls before tomorrow

Kerry's team is keeping track of the numbers. Let these Repug leaders know that you have figured out what the MSM doesn't want you to know! Afterwards, report your calls.

From John Kerry:


There are nearly 3,000,000 of you receiving this email. We accomplished so much together during the campaign. Now let's use our power to make sure that at least one good thing comes from the voting rights problems of the 2004 election. If we want to force real action on election reform, we've got to demand that congressional leaders hold full hearings. Make sure they hear from you and help hold them accountable.


Speaker Dennis Hastert: 1-202-225-0600
Leader Bill Frist: 1-202-224-3135


And please report that you've made your call right here:
http://www.johnkerry.com/signup/electoral_reform.php

[Pacifist Patriot]

18. I can't get through. I've had a busy signal for the last 45 minutes.

[ClassWarrior]

23. Yeah, people in Hell want ice water too.

NGU.

[Imagevision]

30. Maybe Kerry knows something we don't? (By being in Iraq Jan.6

[arnp2000]

31. it's very strange

If you had even one iota of hope to be the president, why in the world you schedule yourself to be out of the country??? Actions do speak louder thn words.

[ClassWarrior]

35. You mean why would you schedule yourself to be out of the country...

...DOING SOMETHING PRESIDENTIAL?? When's the last time Bush** went to Iraq to see the terror he has wrought?? Without a plastic turkey in his hands, that is.

NGU.

[arnp2000]

40. If Kerry really thought he

had a sliver of hope or really thought fraud existed, he should be here in THIS country, not in IRAQ!!

[ClassWarrior]

44. That's why you're the Senator, and he's the schmuck...

...picking his nose in front of a computer monitor.

But hey, thanks for keeping this thread kicked!

NGU.

[seito]

54. OMG I am LMAO

:freak:

[AllyCat]

50. No doubt it is a Presidential action...

...but the middle east issues have gone on a long time. Why on earth would he choose NOW to miss the first day of school? There is plenty of time to do that later...or even sooner would have been good.

[Orsino]

33. Guarding Elections...

...is *far* more important to the security and well-being of this nation than anything he could be doing in the middle East right now. Sure, maybe there's an ingenious stratagem in the works. If so, mark it as just another power play made without transparency.

If tomorrow really is historic, we may find ourselves asking, twenty years from now, "Where was John?" Same thing if tomorrow fizzles; we may come to blame Kerry's absence for any failure.

The issue's bigger than he is. It's probably unfair to hang so much on him, but think a moment--didn't we rag on * for his aerial sightseeing during the hours after 9/11? The mere presence of a leader is often more important than anything he actually accomplishes on the scene.

I suspect that Kerry will be more involved tomorrow than we'll ever know.

[bunny planet]

41. Yeah, you're right, Iraq is a really good place to HIDE!

:wtf:

[mdb]

42. Reform.

Wasn't this same word used in the 2000 election? Of course it was. In the mean time does it make it alright to continue to steal elections?

Here is another way to look at it. Go ahead, continue to steal our elections but I warn you, we are going to propose ways to reform elections and implement this reform. Oooh... I'm scared!!

[stray cat]

43. If we were able to move fraud lost Kerry the election I agree.

So far I don't believe we have met that standard. We need to fight for votes getting counted accurately but I don't see that a temper tantrum by Kerry is going to change the outcome or get us anywhere - he will just be labeled a sore loser.

We, the American people, need to fight for election reform. Tomorrow has to be the start but not the finish.

[arnp2000]

46. Obviously he'll be

gone.

[madbelgiancow]

47. He should be out of MSM reach

I predict he will be on a tour where he can't be found tomorrow.

Let the facts do the talking, and the repubs the answering.

[ClassWarrior]

49. "MSM" is a Radical RW frame. Call them the Corporate Media.

:hi:

NGU.

[madbelgiancow]

51. I was unaware, thanks CW

picked it up from DU, but hey could've been introduced by a 4.

I see your point.

Thanks again.

:hi:

[ClassWarrior]

52. Didn't have to be introduced by a 4 - that's the power of framing...

A well-crafted frame, evil tho it may be, works its way into everyday conversation. Pretty soon we're referring to the Corporate Media Whores as "mainstream." Sick. Just sick. Thanks for understanding, my friend!

NGU.

[orleans]

48. REPORT FOR DUTY JOHN KERRY

kerry is in jordan but he should be here: REPORTING FOR DUTY!!!

[MoonRiver]

53. KICK

:kick:

[greatscott15]

55. I agree - Kerry Should be here

What is Kerry's problem? Sounds like he is a chicken and running for cover!

I wanted Bush to loose, and thought Kerry (or anyone) would beat Bush. But I thought Kerry ran a lame campaign. And he is even acted worse since the election. To me I am not sure he really wanted to be president.

I think almost any of the other candidates would have beat Bush.

SOrry, I but think Kerry is one of the worst candidates we've had in the last 25 years.....

[NVMojo]

56. we don't know a man's heart and mind and we don't know the threats ....