ARRGHHH! I'm tired of this "not overturning the election" line!!!!

[Carolab]

To ME, THIS IS A HUGE DEAL!

DAMMIT, PEOPLE, KERRY WON! WE ELECTED HIM, NOT BUSH!!

IF THERE WAS FRAUD, AND WE KNOW THERE WAS, AND PLENTY OF IT, AND THE POLLS WERE RIGHT--KERRY IS OUR PRESIDENT!

I DO NOT WANT BUSH. HE IS ILLEGITIMATE AND ALWAYS WAS. HE IS RUINING OUR COUNTRY AND TRASHING OUR CONSTITUTION AND KILLING PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T DECLARE WAR ON US!

ELECTION REFORM? YES, CERTAINLY! BUT RIGHT NOW, NOT NEXT YEAR, NOT TWO YEARS, BUT NOW!

I AM SICK, SICK, SICK OF BEING TOLD TO ACCEPT A PRESIDENT WHO DID NOT LEGITIMATELY WIN BECAUSE OF ELECTION FRAUD! THIS PRESIDENT WAS NOT CHOSEN BY THE PEOPLE, AND THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS HIM GONE!!!!!

[EFerrari]

1. And most of the Universe, too, don't forget.

[seshers]

2. YEAH! n/t

[European Socialist]

3. Isn't strange

That rag-tag followers have to drag Kerry and the Dems (our leaders) to water. Let's hope they can drink.

[sd_UDO]

18. We can drink the water if the Senators don't!

We unfortunately have a "trickle down" Dem Party, where
the "Liberal" Dem Senators vote FOR an Iraq war and AGAINST
the black Congresspeople on 1-6-01.

That's liberal???

Let's create a "Trickle Up" Democratic Party, where
the people CREATE something that does
OUTSTANDINGLY more than what the Dem Party does now!

How?

UDO!

In all 50 states and DC!

Here's how:

http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/105/udo/

http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/105/udo/

We will drink the water, even if the 44
Democratic Senators drink the Repub Kool Aid!

[Greybnk48]

4. I'm with you Carolab

If we show the election was illegitimate then Bush has to go--HE WAS NOT ELECTED!!!

[Carolab]

5. Bob Fertik knows how I feel

http://blog.democrats.com/node/2354

[seabeyond]

6. YA N/T

[Chimpanzee]

7. Right on, baby child!

[demo dutch]

8. I am with you, however, if it's contested tomorrow, the house

will get to cast their vote for president. That is how the law and constitution are written. Since repugs have the majority, you can guess what will happen!!

[EFerrari]

10. Obverse of Carol's gripe. No MATTER WHAT happens tomorrow,

we don't shut up, let up or give up. This criminal stole the election twice. And there's nothing Americans hate worse than liars.

I'm with you, Carol. And am ready to make this struggle a part of my every day.

[demo dutch]

16. However, I agree that we never should never give up the fight!

[EFerrari]

21. Not any time soon. Agreed. I've two sons and three lovely

tousle-headed nieces under ten. I won't babysit but WILL fight for their vote <g>. Beth

[Bubblie]

9. I hear you...

I agree! I can't believe that anyone would except anything less than the election being over turned. It's obvious that Kerry won so why should we have to put up with 4 more years of Bush. Election reform needs to be done but that's not enough. We need to get him out and now!!! I'm scared of what he might do next. I will fight as hard as I need to until that happens. I'm NOT giving up!

[rdmccur]

11. My sentiments as well.

Some strong civil actions may eventually be required to awaken our leaders, whomever they choose to be.

[texpatriot2004]

12. I know how you feel Carolab, that line is infuriating! n/t

[karen3]

13. I'M TIRED OF THIS!

I AGREE, I AGREE, I AGREE!!! WHAT TO DO? BESIDES TAKE TO THE STREETS. AT MY AGE THAT SEEMS ALITTLE RIDICULOUS, BUT THERE WHERE TIMES IN THE 60'S WHEN I DID. I'M WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A MAVERICK IN MY WAY OF THINKING BUT ON THIS MY FAMILY MIGHT THINK I'VE GONE OVER THE EDGE. HEAVY FAMILY!! I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN PLAIN SITE.

[Merlot]

14. Because "overturning the election" sounds

like we're taking over the government. You know, installing a leader who won through dubious means. Like we'd be dresed in polo shirts and storming the offices to stop the count! Like a lawsuit could change the outcome of the election.

Oh wait, that already happened...

[EFerrari]

19. LOL! thanks.

[benevolent dictator]

15. call the congressional operator and get a senator to challenge the vote

I got a call from D.C., they said that Kerry had asked that the vote not be challenged, and that the right way to go about it was to push for election reform. This came from... Dr. Lora Chamberlain. (Dr. Lora Chamberlain [e-mail] http://www.illinoisprogressives.org ) She said it at the pre-rally. She did not hear the announcement herself, but this is what she heard. Another at the rally thinks she said something it being report on CNN? but didn't actually hear the announcement herself.

None the less, it's important to keep the pressure on them. If they certify it, nothing happens, if they don't, things might change. Most of the Senators seemed very reluctant to challenge the vote, keep pressure on them, we only need one to break.

They said to pass this message on:

Prior to this announcement, they had as many as 8 senators (including Reid, Clinton, Schumer, and Byrd) were seriously considering challenging the vote, let's make sure they do!

Call the congressional operator: 1-800-839-5276 between 8 AM and noon on January 6th. The vote is at one.

You can ask for any of the 44 Democratic senators. Ask to speak to their aid who deals with election fraud issues, and if the aid is not in, ask to leave a message and request it be delievered within the hour.

Tell them: This is not about Kerry anymore, this is about investigating and verifying the vote before it's ratified. Please stand up and challenge the vote, even though Kerry has asked the opposite.

What could it hurt to call your senators one last time?

[politicasista]

17. I agree

I am sick of that line too.:argh:

[peabody71]

20. Thank you for that. Amen Brother.