DU Proposal: We buy billboard time collectively to speak the truth to mass

[In Truth We Trust]

audience!!

We can conduct a truly democratic process and exercise our first amendment rights.

We need a design committee, fundraising committee,placement committee.The committee's will consist of all of us. There are very creative people here who can design and submit billboards artwork which we all vote to choose. Then we can determine which area's or congressional district's we feel will n et the best results. One strategy might be to use our limited resources to target a symbolic target like DeLay or a Senator who we all agree was "chosen" fraWdulently. We should network with any and all other like minded groups to unify our strength and resources.

This can be accomplished completely transparently by majority vote the old fashioned way. Please pitch in with your opinions and suggestions.

What do ya think America?

[mikelewis]

1. You mean form a DU PAC?

It's not a bad idea.

[In Truth We Trust]

2. Thanks Kick it to see if we can get more feedback

[HeeBGBz]

3. I think it would raise a lot of attention

If placed in the right spot.

[lastknowngood]

4. sounds good to me perhaps we can start the real democratic

party branch and force the party to stand for something, anything.

[KaliTracy]

5. there's some empty billboard space around here in Mason

Ohio I think.... (on edit: Warren county -- home of the "lock down" )
I drive the interstate every day -- I can ck to see if one is empty (ususally there's at least one....)





What are they hiding?

[Goldeneye]

7. Do It!

Lets start researching billboards. How much do they cost? What can and cannot go on them? Who do we talk to about them?

[ExCiber]

16. Expensive

I had a friend who used to work for an advertising company. Prime location billboards can run in excess of $40,000 per month. That's not including the artwork and labor to put the artwork on the board. Cost does vary by location but I was shocked when she told me how high the price can be.

[Goldeneye]

19. We'd help of course.

A duer from California said they had a money collecting system set up. Only one problem...does anyone have money left after this whole mess? Campaigns, recounts, now billboards. Soros? MM? TH Kerry? Hollywood? We need some help here. Throw us a bone.

[In Truth We Trust]

23. Some can be as CHEAP as $700.00 a month. Granted it may not be in the

most ideal spot but nevertheless it can speak volumes. Think about the MSM manipulation of the swift boat liars for bush* ad's. They actually didn't air very much thru purchased time but the corp whore press did their dirty work for them. I am not saying we would get their 24/7 coverage but just one blip is valuable and don't forget these are OUTDOOR billboards where they can not control. word of mouth is effective.

[Goldeneye]

29. I'll start researching right now.

Heres a how to

http://www.ehow.com/how_16618_advertise-billboard.html

[In Truth We Trust]

20. Goldeneye thank you for your enthusiasm. I like your feedback regarding

fliers etc. Someone further down in this thread suggested Orlando which is I think a good start given it's demographics and high amount of foreign visitors. Would you please look into it or solicit a du'er from Orlando to do so. That person should just get quotes and a digital camera for our viewing pleasure once the placement is made!

[Goldeneye]

6. Lets get a brainstorm thread going

how to get the corporate media to pay attention and report, or how to get the word out with out the corporate media.

[Goldeneye]

8. DUers could start a massive message blitz

DUers sneak out and put up fraud signs all over the country in one night.

[Goldeneye]

9. We could take some of the fraud fliers

and leave them at dentists offices, doctors offices, oil change places, vets...thats not illegal is it?

[Goldeneye]

10. Someone already suggested

buying ad time from major newspapers...but some who really despise the corp. media may not want to give them money.

[sunnystarr]

38. Most people don't read newspapers anymore anyway ...

but they do drive ... I think the billboard idea is fantastic!! It's been a longtime since I've been on busses on subways ... they used to have ads too ... do they still? There are stands in restaurants and supermarkets where they give out free newspapers ... does that cost anything or can material be left there too? I think this is a great idea! There are a lot of groups out there, maybe a combined effort to raise money with an increased base would be possible.

[In Truth We Trust]

22. Corp media is not going to support this evidenced by the clear channel

refusal to air as well as cbs's refusal and Sinclair etc.

We might consider posting the republican who voted against our right to vote vis-a-vis today's certification with the absurd comments alongside our message. Could be very annoying to them and an effective way for the offline public to hear the truth.

[ohtransplant]

11. Has anyone considered a DU 527? n/t

[In Truth We Trust]

25. Mod"s, could you let us know if it is possible to create a Billboard

forum for us all to be able to communicate on this project please?!

[seabeyond]

12. i am feeling this is what it is down to

that one church putting out the diversity ads, billboards like you suggest, a truly grass root effort to grow and inform and figure out and expose theft

[flyarm]

13. maybe ....

we can put it next to the beautiful shinning bush billboard in orlando with bushes and mel martinez's billboard paid for by clear channell so all the visotrs of disney world can see it!
of all the other ones that say .."our leaders" here in fla!
fly

[4democracy]

14. This is a GREAT idea, billboards are excellent way to get attention

They also have more credibility than just signs hung up on overpasses and things. Those are awesome BTW, I am not taking away from doing that in any way. However,the general public would give more weight to a slick advertising type billboard. I would rather give money to something like this as to give more to the groups that just seem to be stringing us along.

[Bouncy Ball]

15. I'm there

I'd be willing to donate money. Especially if a DU PAC or 527 were formed, hell yeah. I'd be whipping out my VISA even more.

The Democratic wing of the Democratic party.

Just think--the NYT, FUX news, then billboards. Then people start saying "What is this DU thing?"

Heh heh!

[In Truth We Trust]

17. Thanks BB (cool BB barbara boxer bouncy ball) Keep it kicked

and spread the word.

[BanzaiBonnie]

18. It may not be possible

unless the owners of the billboards are willing to do business with you.

I may be mistaken but in my area they used to be owned by Ackerly and that was sold to someone who may now be a subsidiary of ClearChannel.

But I may be wrong.

[Bouncy Ball]

31. Yes you may be.

Not every billboard is owned by a repuke, LOL!

[evolvenow]

21. Maybe Staples would sponsor? They withdrew ad $$ from FAUX?

Just an idea? Also, does anyone know if there is such a thing as wholesale billboard space? They do that with magazines and newspapers, at a certain time, just before going to press, if space is leftover, sometimes they will make a deal.

What about contacting Susan Sarandon? Anyone connections?

[rdmccur]

44. We should try Michael Moore as well

[KaliTracy]

24. What are they Hiding

I can get a phone number if the sign is still open here in Ohio --

should I do this (get the number) if the billboard is still open?

[In Truth We Trust]

28. Yes you should. This is DU- you've got the power. Call them and find out

what there cost and terms are. Any insight you can provide is appreciated. Ask about their policies re: political advertising.

[KaliTracy]

32. if it's not blatently political is it still political?

for example -- Live or DiBold would be political, yes?

Fraud is not a Moral Value would be political, yes?

What are they hiding? :shrug: ?? i suppose yes

Blackwell must go! yes

Did your vote count? How do you know? yes

[drm604]

26. I like your idea.

I don't know if it's doable or not but I'm having fun imagining the designs:

We find some little old lady in Ohio who's voted for decades but was thwarted this time due to some technicality that Blackwell insisted on. Maybe she didn't check some redundant and uneccessary box on her absentee ballot or something. I'm sure there's some suitable sympathetic and photogenic case somewhere in Ohio. We put her picture and words something like "her name has voted regularly since 1945. On Nov. 2 2004 she wanted to do it again." Next to her is a picture of Blackwell. We need to find the right picture and have him towering over her, perhaps glowering down at her. With the words "He wouldn't let her." We probably have to be careful about defamation of character but I'm guessing (and I AM NOT A LAWYER so take this with a grain of salt) that as long as you can make a reasonable argument that some ruling he made kept her from voting there may not be much he could do.

[In Truth We Trust]

35. That's good. With the upcoming grab of social security I was thinking

we could produce something to the effect that:

Bush and the Republicans want to privatize soc security yet they can't be trusted to count your vote. Call your rep or senator and ask him to support paper ballots and hand counts and tell them to keep their wall street enron type buddies off of our money!!!

[helderheid]

27. I'm in

Hell, why can't we do a TV ad like MoveOn?

[In Truth We Trust]

30. Oh that we could. That would be fun but again the msm whores don't play

fair and don't let real people exercise their first amendment rights. We could however get something produced to disseminate over the "internet's"

[senegal1]

33. I suggest bulk mail myself. Mailing list were cheap and

someone on DU about a month ago offered a mass mailing machine to anyone who could make good use of it. Also more effective would be buying top billing on google or yahoo.

[sunnystarr]

40. Why not both? The billboard can give a limited but powerful

message. Mailers can give details and direct people to websites for more info.

[KaliTracy]

34. there's a good thread on this idea (commerical) from about

3 or 4 days ago... don't have time to look for it now... think it was started by someone with bear in his name (bigbearjohn? *scratching head*)

[buddysmellgood]

36. I was just researching LA Times ad rates when I saw your post. I want to

raise money and run an ad thanking Barbara Boxer. She needs our support and we need to make it clear that she defended democracy and our right to vote.
A full page ad in the Sunday LA Times costs more than $100,000.
Something in the Features/special sections runs about $550 per column inch. A nice quarter-page ad might cost $15,000? I'm trying to figure out this rate card.

Another option is radio. Radio ads can be had for $20-$50 bucks for one airing. There was a story about a guy who was refused ad time by ClearChannel because he was trying to run a anti bush ad.

So anyway. I'm in. But what do you say to Thanks Barbara, as our first project?

[In Truth We Trust]

41. I think it is well deserved by her. Check out billboard rates on the 405

and network to see if there are any billboard outlets willing to do for her what clearchannel is doing for Chimpy.

[buddysmellgood]

43. I guess it shoud really be a Conyers/Boxer Billboard. I'll see what I can

find out.

[buddysmellgood]

37. Kick

[Mr_Spock]

39. Best idea I've heard all day. I want to vote with my money too.

I'll give to the campaigns I agree with - I don't want to fund stuff I think is periferal or fringe. I'm it though - great idea!

[sunnystarr]

42. KICK

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[KaliTracy]

46. Warren County Billboards Open

I will be in meetings all day if anyone wants to check on these.

All on 1-75 North about 25-30 miles before Dayton (there may be some going south, too)

One in Warren County Ohio (home of the Lockdown and weird vote anomolies) 513-539-7076


Several arround the Middletown area (Not sure what county that is) - kind of in groups (three on top of each other about 6 open in the two clusters I saw)

800-761-9077


have a good day...

[In Truth We Trust]

52. Kalitracy I will try to call them this afternoon. Thanks for the post.

[ruthg]

47. I think YES.

However my DU bumpersticker was torn off my car the same day I put it on. However, before it gone torn off, much earlier in the day, someone saw it and honked frantically and gave me a peace sign and a huge smile. We are out there. We are all over the place.

Ruth, who needs a new bumpersticker.

[17yroldtwins]

48. I think billboards are thinking small!

We need to buy/start a major media network ourselves.

I keep thinking...why didn't my family believe me or get on board?

They kept saying "Why isn't it on the television? Why isn't a network reporting on it?"

We are in DESPERATE need of a true investigative, 'tell it like it is' network.

Who's a big dog who has the kind of money that can start the ball rolling?

Attie

[In Truth We Trust]

51. It would be wonderful to have such a network ( I am eagerly awaiting Gore

's network) however what we are talking about here is something we can realistically do NOW! Also this is something we control therefore we are not at msm mercy. It is relatively cheap.

[katinmn]

49. I'm in. It feels good to do something

There have been other posts about producing our own broadcast ads, too.

Not sure where they are at, possibly in the activism forum....

You might want to post this idea in that forum as well.

[El Fuego]

50. I would contribute.

[newyawker99]

57. Hi El Fuego!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[El Fuego]

60. Hi!! Thanks!

:)

[mordarlar]

53. This is what they did with the Bush monkeys painting : )

Great idea. Who is going to shop for one so we know cost? And do we set up a pay pal type account?

[mordarlar]

54. kick

[floridadem30]

55. excellent idea

[helderheid]

56. kick

Be the media

[buddysmellgood]

58. Kick Kick

[buddysmellgood]

59. Kick