Kerry reports for duty in Iraq to cheering troops - rips the Shrub

[Eye_on_prize]

< trancedancer > 01/07 00:37:48

Kerry cheered in Baghdad, decries Bush team's 'blunders'
Once criticized for war stance, he says force alone won't win

Borzou Daragahi,
SF Chronicle - Foreign Service

Thursday, January 6, 2005

Baghdad -- Sen. John Kerry, whose seemingly shifting positions on the U.S. war in Iraq plagued him throughout his presidential campaign, came to this war- torn capital Wednesday to see for himself whether the country was moving toward stability or deeper into chaos.

Kerry, who repeatedly charged during the presidential campaign that President Bush had botched the war effort, was greeted warmly by U.S. soldiers in Baghdad.

"I've been visiting a lot places like Des Moines and Green Bay, and it has been great," the Massachusetts Democrat said during an informal lunch meeting with a small group of reporters and representatives of nongovernmental organizations. "But we are at war, and I think you can't really make all the judgments that you need to make without digging in."

He declined to compare the growing insurgency with the one he faced in South Vietnam as a Navy gunship lieutenant more than three decades ago. But he insisted that superior firepower alone wouldn't quell the uprising disrupting Iraq.

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[malatesta1137]

1. Senator Coward reports for duty?

That'll be the day. How convenient for him to be out of the country on such an important day like Jan 6. So he doesn't have to take a stand. How cowardly and how typical.

[Eye_on_prize]

5. I'm keeping an open mind and open heart to Kerry for the moment..

...the man is doing what he has to do. time will tell, and what is time really?

[roenyc]

18. Add him to all the other senators beside boxer NT

[democracyindanger]

26. Dumbest. Post. Ever.

[Clark2008]

90. That's your opinion

But I'm glad you're able to express it.

[JohnnyCougar]

28. Your lack of understanding of the bigger picture is sad.

I would explain to you why, but it would be a waste of time.

[Eye_on_prize]

39. deleted message

sorry. thought you were responding to top post but i see you weren't.

[NickiWitch]

41. I agree....

it's best to take the high road here.

Peace!

Nicki

[malatesta1137]

84. The bigger picture??

How very funny, the big picture is 4 more years of global holocaust under Bush. Kerry caved. Even his running mate was disgusted. I rest my case.

[ClassWarrior]

30. But didn't you shoot your mouth off that Jan. 6 was pointless??

Maybe JK didn't show up yesterday because he listened to you - before you flip-flopped.

<LMFAO>

NGU.

[RevCheesehead]

50. LOL! Class,

...you kill me! :7

oopsie! quickly edited to add: NGU

[malatesta1137]

85. Jan 6 WAS pointless

even more so with Senator Roll Over fleeing the country with NO decent excuse or reason whatsoever. He could stay and take a stand. He chose to run.

[seito]

94. Well, which is it?

How convenient for him to be out of the country on such an important day like Jan 6.

or

Jan 6 WAS pointless

Or maybe these...

[seito]

31. Yes

He is over in Iraq with all of the other cowards. Thank God for Shrubbie. He knows how to be brave in the face of fire. :eyes:

[Name removed]

86. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[seito]

89. A personal attack from you...

How surprising.

[KittyWampus]

33. What A Disgusting Comment. Bet Your're REAL Proud Of It.

[malatesta1137]

87. Not as disgusting as Kerry's weakness

and yes, I am proud.

[Vektor]

95. Don't be.

It wasn't even remotely intelligent or accurate.
Did you say weakness?
A sure sign of weakness is emotional instability, rage issues, and unprovoked attacks on others.
Do you know anyone like that?
Kerry is heroic. He is in a war torn hellhole right now looking out for the well being of our troops. He fought in Vietnam.

You are sitting at a computer name calling and lashing out.

Hmmm.

[Vektor]

42. All that rage must be very hard on you.

I didn't even need to look at the poster's name to know that was you.

Are you ever NOT pissed off?

Cowards don't go on fact finding missions to the Middle East during a raging war.

No offense, but you would be a whole lot happier and less filled with rage (which must be exhausting) if you just realized that you are responsible for your own happiness and peace of mind, not John Kerry. If you don't agree with him on issues, fine, but every time someone posts a piece of news about him, you seemingly HAVE to bust in and hurl the meanest insults you can at him. Doesn't all that searing hate eat up your insides like a cancer? It must be awful to be angry all the time, based on what John Kerry does. Why are you letting him control your life?

Maybe you would like Kerry to cater to your whims and be where you want him to be, when you want him to be there, doing what you want him to do, but it simply isn't realistic. Surely there must be another politician in the world somewhere whose actions are at least a little more despicable than Kerry's. Maybe you could share a little hate with that person? Why concentrate all your rancor on one man? You have so much of it to go around. If you can't find someone more evil than John Kerry, you haven't looked hard enough.

I don't see a whole lot of prominent Americans flocking to a war-torn hellhole to check up on our military personnel. That is NOT a cowardly act. Imagine how much better you'd feel if you just got on with your life, and stopped reacting to Kerry like he's a cheating ex-who broke your heart and whom you still have a love/hate relationship with.

And I'm saying this for your own good despite what you might think. People who constantly dwell under a blanket of rage are usually not that healthy, and are prone to all sorts of heart, sleep, and digestive ailments.

[malatesta1137]

88. keep your day job

you'd make a lousy therapist. Maybe Doctor Laura should hire you.

[Vektor]

93. HAHAHAHAHA. Case in point!..

always *soooooo filled with rage* and making nasty little remarks. Is that how you cope? By lashing out? Sad. There is medication for that, though.

How do you know being a therapist ISN'T my day job? And I don't make enough money to buy and sell you? What do you do for a living? Complain? Scapegoat? Attack?

I make a stellar therapist actually, and judging from your political viewpoints, you are far more compatible with Dr. Laura than I am.

Apparently, I've hit a raw nerve and you just can't deal.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

45. Please..I am dying to hear of your acts of bravery..like screaming coward

from the safety and solace of behind your screen. YOur comments about Kerry completely disgust me. It's fine if you are disappointed that he should have done more but your comments today and yesterday were completely over the line.

[Withywindle]

72. I think I've figured it out. You're John O'Neill, aren't you?

If so, I'm sorry. I know rejection hurts. But it's really long past time to move on.

[Straight Shooter]

73. Bitter.

Like a jilted lover. So very very bitter.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

74. IS THIS FORUM MODERATED????

[Darknyte7]

76. I wonder sometimes...

:eyes:

[malatesta1137]

83. Truth hurts doesn't it?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

103. Wow you returned..how brave

[Greylyn58]

75. I have no problem with

Senator Kerry touring Iraq and visiting with the troops. At least he cares...which is more then I can say of the Shrub currently squatting in OUR White House.

He was a soldier and knows what these men and women are going through.

So while I'm disappointed that he didn't stand up and fight harder here at home, I would never call anyone that survives a war and lives to tell about it a coward.

[malatesta1137]

91. This trip was ridiculous

there was NO NEED for him to be there now, not on the day he needed to be in Washington making sure FRAUD IS NOT REWARDED.

[shance]

100. I stand by you Malatesta****

I wish I could support him, but where has he been when we have needed the most support??

Thanks for posting.

[catgirl]

105. In Iraq, supporting our troops

and elsewhere in the middle east trying to
fix our faux presidents flubs.

Btw, the person you're "supporting" is abusive
just like Bush.

[lwesty]

106. What's really bothering you?

By calling Kerry a coward, you put yourself in the same (swift) boat as the opposition. Yeah, it's way more cowardly to travel to a war torn country, than to sit in a comfy chair in congress, drinking coffee and eating bagels.
In case you didn't notice, he took a stand in his e-mail, that he wasn't going to challenge the certification. He also gave us guidance on what to do. He sent that e-mail to 3 million addresses. How many do you think followed his lead of advice to call Frist and Hasert? How many just bitched about him being "awol"?
This is OUR fight and we made a huge step in getting our voices heard on Jan. 6th. Kerry standing to challenge would not have made a damn bit of difference except to open him up to right wing media ridicule, and that serves no purpose but to dim the spotlight that WE caused to shine on OUR cause.

[GetTheRightVote]

114. As depressed as it has made me, I have no choice by to concur with

your logic .... Kerry dumped us and I mean big time.

:mad:

[Mojambo]

2. It's a bit early to start campaigning for the 2008 primaries

But here's hoping Kerry can lend some aid to our soliders and work as a Senator to keep them as safe as they possibly can be with Bush still in charge.

I have no doubt Kerry's heart is in the right place. He "gets" what those guys are going through, he fought in an illegal, immoral war himself.

[Eye_on_prize]

6. yes, and we will just have to see how this plays out with all the evidence

on the table now, thanks to Conyers, Tubbs, Boxer, et. al. My sense is this isn't over and may not be for several months. time will tell, and I'm withholding judgment of Kerry for now. That just feels right to me for some reason i can't quite explain yet...

[LittleClarkie]

9. It's a bit early yes, which is why I refuse to see everything he does

in that light.

I do think his heart is in the right place too. (no big surprise if you read my posts on a regular basis.)

[seito]

36. I love the title

Here's hoping Senator Kerry will do nothing to advance our Progressive issues lest he appear to be campaigning.

[thatcoloredfella]

3. Forest For The Trees

Thanks for highlighting this Eyes, because it adds to what I thought was a pretty good day for us! Ignore the shrill attacks against Kerry, because they are rooted in unrealistic expectations. We made our objections for the record, by articulating compelling evidence, while the Republicans showed themselves for despicable liars they are!

[coloradodem2005]

4. But people still seem to like the Republicans.

They don't care that the Repukes are lying motherfuckers.

[thatcoloredfella]

7. Lies Eventually Catch Up To You...

You're right. They believe the lies about Iraq, but that will change soon, maybe right around Jan 30th.

You're right. They believe the lies that Bush will prevent another terrorist attack on our soil. But, our country is just as vulnerable as we were on 9/10/2001.

[coloradodem2005]

13. You'd think it wouldn't take until January 30th.

Not optimistic.

[Blue_In_AK]

29. The draft

I think at some point soon Bush is going to try to reinstitute the draft, and then all hell is going to break loose.

[Eye_on_prize]

55. ya - i have two 20-something sons. this has been on my mind alot lately

:grr: :thumbsdown:

[Eye_on_prize]

11. who is it that doesn't "care that the Repukes are lying mofos?

not sure what you mean by that.

[coloradodem2005]

12. Half of America.

n/t

[Eye_on_prize]

14. ya, there's that. It's no fun being in the 49% when 51% support fascists

is it? I feel you pain...is my pain too... is all of our pain until the wound is healed.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

17. I'm sorry. I believe that Kerry won the popular vote, padded hacked

Votes for Bush across the board.

More than 51% didn't want him.

The big problem is that the vast majority of these people have been kept in the dark about circumstances surrounding this election by a Media that is in collusion with the Sociopath in Chief.

I would also like to take this moment to send out to the Universe my great sorrow and prayers for 7 reservists from my state of NY who lost their lives in Iraq yesterday. More lives lost for an illegal, immoral, unnecessary war. When will this madness end?

[Eye_on_prize]

21. Totally!! i should have put the %s in "quotes" cuz i know the vote riggers

flipped it for *. ...my point was mainly that its so creepy even that 49% support His Fraudulency. tho i understand his approval rating now is at all time low of any prez. in memory.

So very sad to hear about the loss of the 7 reservists from NY.

[roenyc]

19. thats because most people dont know the truth,

who do you think was watching c-span yesterday besides us?

[Eye_on_prize]

22. I think a LOT of people were. the whole freakin world . Tapes of Cspan

coverage now widely available, and part of our countries permanent recorded history, thanx to cspan coverage and the brave Dems who rocked yesterday.

[wrate]

38. This is so true! I have a very liberal and busy friend who was just

telling me how fair the U.S. elections were this time around. He lives in Texas.

[merh]

111. LOL, sorry, your post makes me laugh.

"I have a very liberal" friend sounds like a racist denying he/she is a racist by saying "I have a black man as a friend".

Sorry, it just reads that way to me. lol

[Eye_on_prize]

8. exactly!! they showed their fascist ass today before the whole world

...my sense is some juicy things are in play, and I'm going to ride with it, cuz it may be all that is left for some of us...to keep touching this raw nerve that got exposed today, and just let the chips fall. I haven't seen fire and verve like the some of the Dems showed today in a loonngg time. personally i'm celebrating todays happenings, and intend to keep working for this most basic right to either be affirmed to our collective satisfaction or to expose the fascists for who they are.

[spooked]

20. Now that's the best thing I've heard to come out of this whole thing

At least the WHOLE WORLD knows that HALF of us are sane,
and that Bush's "presidency" is not legitimate!

[LittleClarkie]

10. Thanks fella

That's how I feel too. I did my best to reel in those expectations before today, but I understand some needed to hope against hope and now have come down hard, as if it were November 3rd all over again.

I hope the shrillness abates eventually though.

[evolvenow]

15. Would love to see Kerry end the war, negotiate with others for peace in

the Middle East, as B*sh and Henchmen all take their Perp Walk.

Now that would be a Democracy!

Good for Kerry, he is acting like a President, why the hijackers of this country, sit on their asses and hurl insults at the most intelligent people in Congress.

I hope it is a shakedown, soon.

[Eye_on_prize]

23. Kerry looking presidential in Iraq when * won't show his AWOL ass there...

...says a lot I think...esp. happening at same time as Dems stand up to * at home. gotta love the sychronicity of that.

[RaulVB]

52. Are you joking?..."It's hard work!...(n/t)

[Kansas Wyatt]

64. Now to be fair about it....

Shrub wouldn't be able to put up any "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!" banners that wouldn't draw enemy fire, let alone friendly fire.

Shrub wouldn't be able to prance around in his 'Top Gun' flight suit, and would have to dive into some 'spider hole' or behind his cameramen for his life begging for mercy.

When all of the bullets are still flying, Senator Kerry can go access the situation and report back to Shrub in Dick Cheney's bunker.

When all of the fighting is over and all of the real men are coming home, he'll be more than happy to fly himself and Jeb on the aircraft carrier bringing them home (in U.S. Waters). With the banner, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!" draped over the carrier.

[flordehinojos]

16. kerry ought to go lick his wounds somewhere else...

he is done for as far as i am concerned. i don't think i will ever vote for john kerry again.

[Eye_on_prize]

25. Time will tell. I'm trying to stay focused on the real enemy (*) not

tearing at each other ... Jan 6 may have been tipping point for beginning to expose the crimes and lies of BushCo for all to see. INvestigations still underway. Conyers made it clear that his 101 pp. report is just the beginning "status report"..to be continued...

[RaulVB]

24. WOW, he talked with 20 soldiers???

All by himself???

[Eye_on_prize]

35. Kerry shows up in Iraq, unlike *. he's AWOL ChickenHawk in Chief

[seito]

37. Cute

:hi:

On edit: at least he doesn't have to use photoshop to come up with 20 troops.

LMAO

[RevCheesehead]

51. LOL! Seito, I nominate you for tonight's performance!

Actually, you and CW for "best tag-team performance". :7

[Eye_on_prize]

54. hi 2u2.

:hi:
appreciation noted. thanks.

[seito]

60. Hello Eye_on_prize

My comment above was actually intended for Raul, but I will give you a high five.



Logic is always appreciated

[TruthBeTold22]

27. Cheering Troops?

Where in this story did it mention Kerry being greeted by cheers?

[Eye_on_prize]

32. This was SF Chronicle's headline, not mine..

"Kerry cheered in Baghdad". who else would have been cheering? certainly not BushCo, so this makes me happy.

[politicasista]

34. Good for Kerry

"Senator Coward" sure looks presidental unlike the coward/convict-in-chief who poo poos our troops while never serving himself.

[RevCheesehead]

53. Not unless you count "plastic turkeys"

That's about as close as he's come to serving anything (with the possible exception of being KKKarl's lap dog).

[bunny planet]

77. Didn't His Fraudulency send a real turkey for Thanksgiving this year?

Donald somebody????

[RevCheesehead]

82. LOL! The turkey who laid an egg! (n/t)

[txindy]

40. Very nice article.

Thanks for posting it!

I believe that the troops went for Kerry in this election. If they hadn't, we wouldn't have heard the end of it in the corporate media. The troops know who is trustworthy and who will protect them. It sure as heck isn't Junior.

[Vektor]

43. I have always thought that. LOOK! POST # 666!

If Bush got the Military vote, FAUX Snooze would have been screaming it from the rafters. Yet, the MSM never reported that figure.

What does that tell you?

EDITED TO SAY: LOOK EVERYONE!! THIS IS MY MARK OF THE BEAST POST!!
Oh, I hope all the freepers see it!

[Eye_on_prize]

47. LMAO - freepers beware - n/t

[Eye_on_prize]

44. I know! WTF happened to the military votes? I never heard a peep about

them. ooopss. not for *? well then down the memory hole with them, it seemed. If we still had investigative journalists, that would make a good story to try to find out what happened with those votes.

[Vektor]

46. I am absolutely certain...

...that our military vote went to Kerry. If it had gone to Shrub, it would have been repeated every second since the election all over every station.

That demographic has never been revealed or discussed. We all know why.

[Eye_on_prize]

48. Jeez. I wonder what it would take to get that information leaked

there must be some military brass who hate the * and would like to see this hit light of day.

[txindy]

49. Even if the corporate media won't report it, smaller media sure would

Not to mention the foreign press.

We need to keep our eyes open for any info. on the military vote. Someone, somewhere knows something and will report it. We just need to track it down.

[Eye_on_prize]

58. Maybe Powell will spill the beans soon.. He must know about this.

[Stand and Fight]

56. Interesting...

Kinda makes you think... :think:

[Eye_on_prize]

57. yes, it does.

:think:
and wonder how many more checks it will take to get * into checkmate.

[Moderator]

59. Eye_on_prize

Per DU copyright rules
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Thank you


DU Moderator

[Eye_on_prize]

62. cool.. thanx for letting me know.

i'm a bit of a newbie.

[Helga Scow Stern]

61. Funny, this sounds like what he'd be doing if he were president. n/t

[catgirl]

65. Somebody has to do it!

John Kerry makes a fine president. He has troop support,
international support and support by the majority of our
country.

Certain posters are just trying to rile everyone up and split
us apart. Sorry Malatesta1137 and the rest of you freepin'
psychos, it's not going to happen.

Go John Kerry!!!!!

[loudsue]

67. Thank you, catgirl.....I'm SICK of these posers...I mean posters

Seems like there must be a 'nest' somewhere...they're coming out of the woodwork.

:kick::kick:

[Blue_In_AK]

78. Thank you

I don't think I've seen one positive post from Malatesta since I've been here. The "mal" part of the name seems to fit.

[seito]

92. Astute Observation Blue

I think it's a "jealousy" thing. Have you ever seen the size of JK's feet? ...nuff said :eyes:

[Blue_In_AK]

96. Seito, I never noticed...

....but I'll sure check it out the next time I see him. I agree though there's something quite appealing about Mr. Kerry ... and he's in my generation, too. Woo-hoo.

[seito]

97. Well, I am not exactly in his generation

But, does that really matter? :evilgrin:

[Vektor]

98. We can call it what it is.

Or we can abbreviate.
P. Envy. :-)

[Vektor]

99. Actually...

They have been outright attacks. Really nasty stuff. I can't imagine being that enraged all the time. I wonder if he never sleeps, or just sits there 24 hours a day, chain smoking and punching walls?

[Blue_In_AK]

108. Right. I don't even read his/her posts anymore. n/t

[Vektor]

109. It looks like he's gone.

Got banned for meanness maybe?

[Blue_In_AK]

112. Yay!

I have nothing at all against differences of opinion, but that person is always just so downright NASTY. He sounds like he's from the dark side.

[Vektor]

115. I think a lot of those folks...

...have infiltrated this board. Differing opinion is one thing, but baseless attacks just to be rotten are entirely another.

[pick_a_dilly]

63. Senator WHO???? kerry --- never heard of him... n/t

;-(

[catgirl]

66. Some people get so angry when Bush gets ripped apart.

[Eye_on_prize]

69. why would you display your ignorance like that. shheesh.

:cry:
maybe you just need a good cry.

[Tomasj]

68. **YAWN**

whatever..too late..he should have been over here standing up to those repugs!! Bring on DEAN.. and lets forget about Kerry, cause he didnt seem to care very much yesterday about us and the fraud.

[Eye_on_prize]

70. I like Dean a lot. but that doesn't mean i have to dislike Kerry, or put

him down. The primaries for 2008 are a ways off. Dems need to support one another in meantime in order to bring *'s house of cards down around his ears. impeachment. criminals. focus. investivations are ongoing.. tick - tick - tick -tick..

[ginnyinWI]

117. so you didn't get his memo? n/t

[corbett]

71. He's Up To Something

I can just smell it! I cannot get past the belief that he's over there to light a fire of some sort. Cross your fingers and toes because I still believe that January 20 won't happen.

[Raksha]

79. I agree with about half of that post.

I think Kerry is up to something in Iraq, BUT I don't think it's going to stop Shrub's inauguration. I have a feeling we'll know the real story AFTER the inauguration, hopefully not too long afterwards either.

[corbett]

107. You May Be Right

The timing is very tight. What needs to happen now is for Bush's criminal connection to the fraud to be proved. It that happens before the inauguration, or if he is indicted with a mountain of evidence, the Supreme Court will have no choice but to delay the inauguration.

Can it be done in two weeks? Yes but it won't be easy.

[ginnyinWI]

118. if anyone can bust Bush

it would be Kerry. But these things take time--don't think it will happen this month. If he had anything, he'd have done it before the 6th. But eventually, eventually...watch out.

[McCamy Taylor]

80. Kerry is the Senator in charge is showing what a &*^% W. is!

[meganmonkey]

81. B**sh couldn't even GO out to most of these places without PROTESTS

Just imagine the protests if B**sh did a full mid-east tour like this. Imagine the b*shit sets and props Bu**shco would use on a trip like this - invite-only 'spontaneous' conversations with troops and happy Iraqi children. Otherwise he'd get fucking assassinated. Kerry is being treated like an honored leader, he is talking like someone who wants to SEE what is really happening. And outside the context of the election, it sounds fucking great.

Please know that I am not writing this in response to this forum, as far as the 'Kerry is a wussy chump vs. Kerry has a fabulous secret plan' debate. Honestly, I am undecided and withdraw from that argument. I am writing as an observation for what it is.
An American lawmaker going to see the shit, to see what he is or isn't voting for, what his nation is creating thousands of miles away with our money. And he can afford to because today, he has nothing to lose. I'm sure there is some form of publicist involved, I am not stupid, but i am REALLY IMPRESSED.

[Raksha]

110. You are so right, Meganmonkey. Bush lives in a gilded cage.

The inevitable fate of all tyrants. Here's what impressed me the most in the lead article:

"U.S. soldiers approached Kerry inside the restaurant of the Rashid Hotel, asking him to pose for photographs and sign T-shirts. The star-struck restaurant manager insisted on serving Kerry the restaurant's specialty, a plate of grilled chicken and lamb."

Can you imagine Shrub eating in a RESTAURANT??? And in Baghdad, of all places??? *HE* would have ended up being the entree!!! When you consider that Shrub can't go to the potty these days without major security arrangements, the contrast couldn't be greater. Kerry's smart enough to know it too. I'm still not sure what his game is, but I do know he's winning at whatever it might be.

[Niche]

101. Maybe by Kerry staying in Senate - that's the deal, bring on an

investigation and bring icky down? I know you're gonna say the deck is stacked with uhgs but uhhh... I love that kerry's in Iraq - a lot of the soldiers voted for and support him. If he brings comfort to them I don't care so much that he missed the 6th -- yesterday I felt totallly different and pissed but today I'm thinkin' a Niche-flippingflopper is in order...

why is m. so pissed off all the time? Hmmmm.

[shance]

102. My concern: Is he being rewarded for throwing the election?

Let's call a spade a spade. It does Democracy no good when we dont.

[seabeyond]

104. too many people across the nation work at staying unaware

how many friends and family do you have that actually take pride put effort into not knowing what is happening so they can blindly vote for a party.

the media is controlling the outcome. look at the two races gore and kerry. not once thru out the media in their races, not once did htey say something positive about either of these two men. all the good in character of these two men, and never could they say something positive. even when they did something good media still dissed them. with bush, even when they caught him in lie they would say a straight shooting honest man, a good christian, then talk the story. a popular dude, a dude to have a beer with

yes it makes us all sick that bush is rewarded once again for theft, dihonesty corruption

the nation needs a shake up. told my boys let it go, this isnt your lesson, you are informed, aware. this second term of bush is for all those dumb shit people to learn. it will be hard and painful, it is theirs to do, not yours.

[GetTheRightVote]

113. Let me get this all straight ??

As long as Kerry is over seas looking like a Pres, talking to the troops, who should not be there, but whom's presence there Kerry supported along with *, with a photo ops then this makes it ok that he is not here at home taking care of the home boys/girls, then it is ok for him to dump us off on the rest of the Dems who are no more couragous then he is except for one lone woman who is worth more then all of them together Sen. Barbara Boxer, it is ok for him to put a knife in our backs by giving the GOP the words to use against us in the two hour debates, quote "We know Pres. * won but we just want to make sure every vote is counted". All of you must be just pulling my leg or something, right ?? This is an April Fool's Day joke right ??

Or are we doomed to relive history because we do not face the reality of recent events ?? I am sick of not being supported by my party who I vote for over and over again. Most of the Dems suck to the high hills and we should punish them for not backing us up on Jan 6th period. They are losers not heros and we can list the heros by name, all of them. We will continue to lose if we back the losing horses and I am as sorry as you must be but Kerry is a losing, spineless horse. I would never trust him with my children so I will certainly not trust him with my country. He may have been a warrior at one time but he is no longer that warrior. I am truly sorry to come to the realization of that but I have unfortunately because I love my country to much to let losers run it or to waste my vote on them even if by some miracle it actually is counted.

[ginnyinWI]

119. please reserve your judgement for a little while.

There won't be any national elections for two years--no need to decide right now. If you still think the Dems aren't worth it then, don't vote for them. But watch and see what they do between now and Nov. 2006. Deal?

[kitkat65]

116. I was hoping that after the "loss" on election day he would go ahead

and keep his promise to gather a coalition of nations to help with the Iraq effort. There's no way in hell we have the resources or respect of the Arab world to pull it off without much more bloodshed.

If he does it and pulls it off, it would be a beautiful snub to the shrub having Kerry accomplish as a senator what Bush couldn't do as king, er, president.

[ginnyinWI]

120. and its absolutely the thing for a true patriot to do,

even if it is during Bush's term. Everyone would know who should get the credit.

I love it--he doesn't win the presidency, but just goes ahead on solving the problems he wanted to, regardless.

Another observation: Many people credit John Kerry and the VVAW for shortening the Vietnam War. They helped raise people's awareness that led to a public outcry that the war should end, and it worked.

Wouldn't it be wonderfully ironic if John Kerry as Senator would work as a diplomat (like his dad was) and get the Iraq war shortened or made less deadly. Bush=Nixon.

He wanted the troops to stop dying needlessly in Vietnam; he doubtless wants to end needless dying in Iraq now.

Twice in a lifetime. That's the man I voted for.

[kitkat65]

121. You're right. Such an action would be noble and not an act of spite.

It's just that it would make me feel so smugly satisfied. Sorry, I can't help it.

:shrug: