What arguements and facts did the Republicans present?

[mikelewis]

Okay, let's stop worrying about the dems for a minute. Did the Republicans tell us anything yesterday that can give us more leads? Did they have a slip of the tongue, a faux paus, anything that we can dig into? Don't reply if you're going to be trite. I want to find a way to counter every arguement and determine if they let something slip that they shouldn't have. Once more, back into the breach

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with Democrat blood
The game's afoot: Follow your spirit and upon this charge
Cry God for Kerry, America, and Democracy!

[rumpel]

1. They never do

[mikelewis]

2. Come on, they had to have said something... is there a transcript?

[FreeCajun]

3. The congressional record.

[mikelewis]

4. Has it been submitted yet, doesn't that take a couple of weeks?

Shit, means I'm gonna have to watch them this time. I recorded it and fast forwarded through the Repubs speeches. Shit, are you sure someone didn't write this down. I can't stand to look at those pukes, they make me sick to my stomach.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

10. I started taking notes but was getting literally nauseated

listening to them, then (I know this is lame but I couldnt help it) I started crying and couldnt write anymmore. I have some of it taped (both house and Senate) and I'll go down now and listen--see what else I can pick up (I think I can handle it now ;)

[mycatforpresident]

18. The records HERE:

I'm going to have to start a thread on this, maybe.

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/crecord/index.html

Senate transcript:

http://frwebgate5.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=125183473563+1+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

[eowyn_of_rohan]

6. here are a couple tidbits

Rep. Candice Miller (MI) said all the Dem concerns were HERESAY, and based on FANTASY.

Rep. Roy Blunt said the Dem challenge casted a SHADOW on our democracy

And Rep David Scum-o'-the-earth Dreier said that the Dems were making our country look bad, and encouraging TERRORISM against us. Also the Dems should accept the LEGITIMATE results of the election

[oneold1-4u]

14. A Shadow --

From a challenge is certainly more comforting than a closed, locked door to freedom and a dictatorship in the making, by vocal death to all who would speak against them! They will certainly use the "shadow" for their word. We should say a closed door doesn't even make a shadow or allow any light!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

24. What an excellent observation...

If only you had been there to make this point :hi:

[Greybnk48]

5. Two things--one of use the other a maybe

I can't remember who said this, house or senate (sorry) since I was flipping back and forth, but someone on the R side started ticking off possible fraud by the Dems in several areas of the country.

This could be turned back on them and used to demand--BY THE VOTERS--the real victims here, that the entire election be investigated for fraud by ANYONE since they themselves have now admitted that it occured.

The other thing that may be iffy involves the derisive, mocking comments that the election was hacked from the white house by K.R. via computer or telephone. I said this in another thread. If they publicly make it sound ridiculous, then (they think--hope) we will look ridiculous investigating this possibility. And I think this is a real possibility since he was also calling the networks from the White House, trying to pressure them into calling states for Bush. That I heard with my own ears in the wee hours of the morning from Wolf Blitzer who then said he would not comply.

[insane_cratic_gal]

7. you know what the difference is??

If a Dem cheated, we'd chew his/her ass off.

Tell me who has more moral integrity?

[shraby]

8. Don't they always accuse Dems

of what they are doing themselves?

[Greybnk48]

12. yes

Or they SAY they're compassionate when they are not, they're moral when they are not,backing programs when they are not, etc., etc..

They're M.O. is to say it and not do it because very few Americans bother to follow up to see if they in fact walk the walk.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

25. they are masters of fact-reversal

The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them more easy victims of a big lie than a small one, because they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell big ones. Such a form of lying would never enter their heads. They would never credit others with the possibility of such great impudence as the complete reversal of facts.
-- Adolph Hitler

[icehenge]

26. Very good quote, thanks for posting it

[Kansas Wyatt]

17. That's how they project their....

Guilt and corruption on the Democrats. 'Stain their opponent before their misdeeds are discovered, so it at least makes both sides look equal.'

If both sides are equal, then harm is done, and if the Democratic Party is viewed as guilty for Republican cheating, then the Republicans have completely gotten away with cheating and crippling their opponent.

[mikelewis]

13. Any threads started on Rove and his activity? I've seen alot but haven't

seen one here on Rove, just a lot of bitching about how cunning he is. What did he do on election day? Who'd he call? Who'd he talk to. Who was in the room with him. They have to have pictures or maybe video floating around.

[Greybnk48]

15. He should be the target of a concerted investigation by the people here.

You're right, just bitching but no digging. I don't know how to do any real digging but I can learn.

[mikelewis]

20. Did he actually name states? This is awesome, we can use this

Yeah, the Rove thing is a pickle but it does make you want to look into Rove a bit more. I've been looking for Rove Threads. I want to find out more about what he was doing on selection day.

[Darknyte7]

9. I watched both chambers again last night...

The two Ohio Senators were the only Republicans to rise on the Senate side. On the House side, without a doubt the Republicans said a lot of stupid things, but they were all prepared statements that they read for the most part. They made fools of themselves, but they did let anything slip. At least I didn't notice anything...

[Skarbrowe]

11. When do you know a drug addict or a republican is lying?

When they open their mouths. My apologies to drug addicts.

And apologies to mikelewis for the flippant answer to his question. I did listen to a good number of the "what the hell do they have for brains" repukes talking yesterday and all I remember hearing is crap about how the Democrats were hurting the country, the planet, the universe with this shameless objection to their arrogant ass stealing of yet another election. I didn't listen to everyone. I was flipping back and forth between the House and the Senate discussions. I'm extremely proud of Rep. Stubb-Jones and Senator Boxer. I've thanked them both.

[RaulVB]

16. We "won", because the media and Kerry said so...!

That, basically.

[moondust]

19. It's more what they didn't do.

They had no interest at all in hearing the substance of the complaints let alone investigating them. They showed nothing but contempt for Americans standing up to claim their civil rights.

[mikelewis]

21. Yeah, but thats grist for the propaganda mill, it doesn't help the inquest

[hippiegranny]

22. I watched the Senate debate

the Pubbies who spoke could only quote from newspaper editorials to support their position of "move on, you lost, get over it." I know WE all notice stuff like this, but do most people? It was truly pathetic, especially in contrast with the amazing, eloquent words of the majority of Dems who spoke.

[euler]

23. Lets see...

...the debate was 2 hours, 5 minutes each. I bet the republicans didn't say anything substantive about evidence for the same reason the democrats (who were critical) said nothing substantive about evidence.

There wasn't time to say anything substantive about evidence.