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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:14 PM
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NYT: Final national exit poll was outside the margin of error.
This was reported yesterday, buried in the middle of a story.

Report Says Problems Led to Skewed Surveying Data
By JIM RUTENBERG

Published: November 5, 2004
<snip>

Officials with some of the newspapers that subscribed to the service said the ultimately misleading polling data forced them to scramble late at night to change some articles. The presumption of a Kerry victory built a head of steam late in the day, when the national survey showed the senator with a statistically significant lead, one falling outside the survey's margin of error.

"The last wave of national exit polls we received, along with many other subscribers, showed Kerry winning the popular vote by 51 percent to 48 percent, if true, surely enough to carry the Electoral College,'' Steve Coll, managing editor of The Washington Post, wrote in an online chat with readers Wednesday.

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http://nytimes.com/2004/11/05/politics/campaign/05poll.html

I remember in the past that the networks always used to compete with each other on election night. Using exit poll data, they would race to see who could call a state first. Yet despite this intense competition, I don't ever remember a network having to reverse a call. The exit polls were reliable.

But, strangely, since the advent of republican-made-and-operated electronic voting, exit polls all of a sudden are consistently wrong, and consistently favor democrats when compared to the reported actual voting.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:18 PM
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1. Exit polls are the canary in the coal mine*
They are the truth indicator if you will, but we know how much this Administration values the truth.
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:19 PM
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2. exit polls are a check against fraud...
that's why the US demands exit polls be conducted in newly democratized countries. To ensure that officials counting the vote don't cheat.

This new spin that it's the exit polls that are the problem is just absolute bullshit.

And it's absolute proof that Bush is not legitimate. He has once again stolen an election.

He's not my president. Again.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:21 PM
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3. Be patient.
More meme injection. Do you think that the raw data being reported is not getting noticed? After so much that was done before the election was noticed? Only in space can a vaccuum form instantaneously.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:32 PM
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5. I think it is noticed but nothing will be done about it.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:33 PM
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6. How can you say that?
n/t
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:40 PM
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8. Not without a lot of pain. Believe me, I'd give anything to be
pr oven wrong. We're on the same side. You can count on that.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:21 PM
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4. They didn't use the polls in 2000 while they ran tests on their vote theft
programs. They hyped the 'neck in neck' race to cover the fact that the theft was on for this time.

The exit polls are more accurate than the idiot ones where they call a sample which is not really representative of actual voters. They want America to believe the call polls and dismiss the much more accurate exit polls. The fact that the media plays along to the point of carrying the ball shows that they are totally involved in the fraud. The fact that 'reporters' do the lying on camera shows that they are traitors. Novak is not alone.


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Daisey Mae Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 01:34 PM
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7. "Exit pools all of a sudden...
are constantly wrong and consistently favor Democrats when compared to the reported actual voting"......I SMELL ANOTHER RAT...... (FIRST ONE IN 2000)

"Fool me once",...... Oh, what is AWOL Monkey-boy's quote anyway? Sorry but this election is a fraud.....
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