This is why we need PAPER BALLOTS, HAND COUNTED

[indigoblue]

I was curious to see which states contributed to the national popular vote steal for *. The table below shows state by state numbers of votes received by presidential candidates in 2000 and 2004, differences between the votes from two elections, and net gains of votes by * in 2004 election. Note that the votes for Nader in 2000 were considered as democratic votes.



Here is the punchline: The only states where Kerry made a net gain of votes were the District of Columbia (by 17,288 votes) and Vermont (by 13,266 votes). Vermont is the only state where paper ballots AND hand count are still used (37% of the total votes were hand-counted). Bush's net gains were small in Maine, New Hampshire, and Oregon where the state governments are strongly democratic.

More than 2 million votes for * came from California, Florida, New York, and Texas alone. Alabama, Georgia, New jersey, and, Tennessee gave * more than 250,000 votes each.

Here I strongly argue that we need to get rid of the computer tabulating machines controlled by partisan private companies and go back to paper ballots AND hand counting.

I also argue that we should absolutely ban lever voting machines that don't produce any verifiable paper ballots. The states where the number of democratic votes declined the most are Connecticut and New York where the majority of voters still use the lever machines.

See: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=270786

http://findtruthnow.blogspot.com/

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. How did DC manage to take such a chunk from *?

did they have electronic voting? anyone run their numbers? Is it just that they can actually smell the stench coming from the White House? lol

[indigoblue]

2. DC offers both e-voting and optical scan machines for each polling place

This info is according to their web site. The voters can vote at any polling place as long as they are in the right precinct. Their system is not perfect because I also heard about long lines there but probably have one of the most liberal election system.

[Wilms]

3. Great work.

I hope the DU researchers see this thread.

Kind of wish you named the thread after the table you present.

[Blue_In_AK]

4. Very interesting chart

Something certainly doesn't look right, especially in those large population states. Even here, it's surprising to me that ** had a 20,000 net gain. I know of so few people who voted for **, although JFK's opposition to drilling in ANWR probably had something to do with it.

[davidgmills]

5. Did Bush pick up votes is Massachussetts too?

Have I read this right?