MSM direct access to vote counting machines?

[garybeck]

according to American Free Press---

Immediately after the election, American Free Press reported that the Associated Press had direct access to the mainframe computer that tallied the votes in Chicago and Cook County—as it tallied the votes on Election Day. This provides evidence that the mainstream media consortium that replaced the disgraced Voter News Service (VNS) has remote access to the machines that count the votes.

This direct connection between AP and the vote counting computer system explains why the Associated Press repeatedly refused to answer AFP’s questions during the summer about how they got their election results on election night.

full article here:
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/ballot_scamming.html

Question - i've heard that if this were true, it is illegal - that no one is supposed to have direct access to vote counting machines other than the local BOE officials and no one is supposed to know the tallies until they are released from BOE.

Is that true?

[snot]

1. Kick

[s-cubed]

2. Well, now we know it was possible for Rove to get in.

Real question is whether they were connected to every state.

[ClassWarrior]

3. What - pray tell - is "mainstream" about the Corporate Media??

PLEASE QUIT USING RADICAL RIGHTWING FRAMES LIKE "MSM!!" There is NOTHING mainstream about their agenda of greed and manipulation!!

NGU.

[troubleinwinter]

5. CPM ... Corporate Propaganda Machine

[ClassWarrior]

9. Nice... but keep it simple.

Corporate Media... or Corporate Media Whores when they especially earn it...

<LOL>

NGU.

[troubleinwinter]

11. Corporate Media Propaganda Lyin' M*F*g Whores

... CMPLMFW for short! (or just "liars")

[glitch]

13. Yep - MSM is not accurate anymore. Not unless the main stream is

far right, which I don't believe. CPM is perfect.

[flyarm]

4. i had this in my files since october..it may help you!

Lynn Investigates
Could the Associated Press (AP) Rig the Election? (Check updates at bottom)



by Lynn Landes 10/22/04



The Associated Press (AP) will be the sole source of raw vote totals for the major news broadcasters on Election Night. However, AP spokesmen Jack Stokes and John Jones refused to explain to this journalist how the AP will receive that information. They refused to confirm or deny that the AP will receive direct feed from voting machines and central vote tabulating computers across the country. But, circumstantial evidence suggests that is exactly what will happen.

http://www.ecotalk.org/AP.htm

flyO8)

[KansDem]

7. KICK for the evening crowd...

:kick:

[12345]

6. another article that was posted in an earlier thread...

http://www.rense.com/general61/exit.htm

"Thankfully, American Free Press reporter, Christopher Bollyn was in the right place at the right time on Election Night 2004. He spotted an AP employee connecting her laptop to an ES&S computer at the Cook County (IL) election headquarters. But, was she downloading or uploading data? In an interview with this reporter, Bollyn said, "When I asked the AP "reporter" if she had "direct access" to the mainframe computer that was tallying the votes, she said yes and then Burnham (a Cook County official) stepped in and re-asked my question for me. Again the answer was, "Yes."

I called Cook County this week and spoke with Cass Cliatt, their spokesperson. She said that, after the polls close, any reporter can use the county's "connector cables" that allow them to download the latest vote totals. Cliatt said that this did not constitute a connection to the mainframe computer. She did admit that AP employees were there on Election Night and had cables dedicated to them specifically. But, she again insisted that the AP cables were not connected to the mainframe computer. Bollyn disagrees."

Bollyn wrote the AMF article and was quoted in this article about the exit polls.

I read the same article about the AP - brought it up in the other thread and they acted like I was crazy. Couldn't remember the link. Glad it does exist...

[bush_is_wacko]

8. Does Arnebeck have this information?

I really don't know a lot about computers, but put this together with what Andy was posting a couple days ago and this could be VERY important. I know enough to gleen that if someone can download information, it doesn't take much to UPLOAD info through the same source.

[12345]

10. i'm new to this, i don't know...

[rumpel]

12. It sound like it makes a legal difference if the connection was

during or after the polls closed.
It is still questionable for anyone outside of the election officials to be allowed to connect to the computers. ( In my lay person's mind)
I think Conyers has to request info from AP, too now.

[12345]

14. does it? seems like tabulation is still occurring.

i thought that access was restricted until the vote was certified...

[12345]

15. earlier thread with original link to article...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x265244

[bush_is_wacko]

16. I'm pretty sure it got to the people it needed to get to.

Conyers was mentioned. I'm sure he would get it where it needs to go.

[Alizaryn]

17. I read about this awhile ago, has anyone looked into

it that you know of?

[Luminous Animal]

18. American Free Press / Neo Nazi's

I'd be careful about citing anything from American Free Press no matter how good it sounds...

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=American_Free_Press

The American Free Press is a publication launched by Willis Carto, who previously published Spotlight magazine through his now-defunct Liberty Lobby, an organization worked with racist anti-segregationists and neo-Nazi holocaust deniers. AFT was launched by Carto in August 2001 following the court-ordered closure of Spotlight. Many of the staff of Spotlight continued on with American Free Press.