Boxer is up again!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

[alexisfree]

1. where?? CSPAN ?

[helderheid]

3. yes

www.c-span.org - click "watch" - Boxer is KICKING BUTT AGAIN!

[alexisfree]

6. thank you...my god is too early.!!!!..6:49cali.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

10. c-span 1

[jmknapp]

2. Wiiiiipeout!

[meganmonkey]

12. Love the pic!

[Goldeneye]

4. I'm watching too.

She's very in control....has her papers in order, story is to the point, condi looks ...;(

[mordarlar]

5. I LOVE HER!

[helderheid]

7. did you notice condi

scribbling furiously?

Boxer is making it clear how shameful it was for Condi to not only lie to the people, but to scare them with those lies about nuclear weapons.

[mordarlar]

11. Boxer gets so worked up she shakes. Hell of a woman. : D

[alexisfree]

8. condo looks confuse....

[Union Thug]

9. Boxer: One of the only elected officials I respect.

She's a hero. Now THAT is how a Democrat SHOULD BE dogging the Bushstra Nostra.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. Yeah!!! She is bringing up our relationship with Iraq when they

were gassing Iranians!!! How we became friends with them!!! Donald Rumsfeld!!! lol!!! I love her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[helderheid]

15. Condi looks ill!

Yes go BOXER!

[alexisfree]

14. BARBARA KICK ASSS.!!!!!

[mordarlar]

16. :O i am soo glad she is bringing up that visit. Shortly after his visit

the US quietly sold Saddam weapon information.

[helderheid]

17. "It's about candor - about not telling the full story"

Yes, tell it sister!

[helderheid]

18. Good God what will Condi say????

[helderheid]

19. Condi is whining

that Boxer only pointed out the bad things about Condi. Oh WAAA WAAA WAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

And lying through her teeth again. Condoliesa.........

[alexisfree]

20. oh please condo more respect for the senator !!!!!

condo is doing the Donald trump hand thing..

[helderheid]

21. CONDI JUST SAID

THEY NEVER CLAIMED SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH 9/11!!!

[alexisfree]

22. yes she did!

[SaveAmerica]

32. Did Boxer say anything in response? n/t

[Amaryllis]

39. No. Condi came up with so many lies Boxer couldn't respond to all of them.

[SaveAmerica]

58. thanks

[helderheid]

23. Condi is short for

Condecending and CON ARTIST

[alexisfree]

24. a cone of shit

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

25. ConTemptuous of the America People!!!!!

[helderheid]

26. Yes!

Good one!!

Oh I am just shaking my head at this woman. She gives a bad name for all those with ovaries.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

46. I am on an IM with a friend of mine, and we are both typing furiously

in caps! Maybe she's really a dragqueen?

Honestly, for Lugar to say Boxer has a strong point of view???? A point of view when pointing out the TRUTH?????

I am furious!!!!!

[SueZhope]

41. thats a good one helderheid Condi Con artist n/t

[Amaryllis]

42. CONdi after this.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

55. She should be a CONvict..........................................

[alexisfree]

27. blah...blah...blah.....

zzzzzzzzzzzzz :boring:

[mordarlar]

28. yeeeahhh! that was brief ugh

[alexisfree]

29. BOXER 2008

[helderheid]

30. Boxer THANK YOU!

"Yes, let's look at the bigger picture!"

[mordarlar]

31. ROLF let's have the whole picture....

[Amaryllis]

33. Condi lying again! Saying intelligence told them WMDs. LIE! They

intelligence never said that. Watch Uncovered: the truth about the Iraq war. Nothing wrong with the intelligence. They lied about it and distorted it to make the case for war. Those of us listening to alternative media knew that too.

[mordarlar]

34. ...

[helderheid]

35. "If we do get a little testy on the point and I do admit to being so"

Love you Boxer!

[helderheid]

36. Condi is smirking because she got the last word

[Straight Shooter]

37. Kindasleezy Rice claiming she mourns the soldiers who died, every day

I wish Senator Boxer had had the time to say, "Name one."

[helderheid]

Yes, no kidding!

[alexisfree]

40. ha! .......that will be a placer to see it!!!!!!!!

[IndyPriest]

38. Boxer! a grateful nation salutes you!

I want whatever that woman takes for vitamins.

[helderheid]

43. Biden appears to be doing a bit of butt kicking too

in a round about way

[IndyPriest]

47. Yes, he was. But what's the deal about "the prez has

that right to whomever he wants in his cabinet?" I wonder what the base line is for Biden. Whom would he vote against?

[helderheid]

48. Yea that leaves me scratching my head too

[mordarlar]

44. I missed the Kerry questioning yest. Does anyone have a link to video of

video of it?

[helderheid]

45. yes go to

www.c-span.org and look at "recent videos"

[mordarlar]

50. thanks: D

[alexisfree]

49. nelson why is so many soft balls?

[mordarlar]

51. Obama

:loveya: crushing hard

[helderheid]

60. He's so dreamy!

[hootinholler]

162. No, Boxer

:loveya:

Is it just me or are others carnaly attracted to her?

-Hoot

[Straight Shooter]

52. I've never heard Obama's voice before.

Wow. Smooth.

Go ahead, Kindasleezy, admit it ... you want him :evilgrin:

edit: She's probably thinking to herself, "Why is that idiot chimp in the Oval Office, instead of this intelligent charismatic man?"

[mordarlar]

69. Funny i was wondering the same thing ; )

[d.l.Green]

53. Wow! Why can't more Demo's be like her????

This was the first time I ever saw her in action- AMAZING! Forget about the glass ceiling thing- I love it! Where's the WHOLE story??!!!- gotcha!:bounce:

[NGU]

54. Awesome to watch n/t

[Amaryllis]

56. Does Condi believe her own lies or is she deliberately lying with

full conscious awareness she is lying? I get the idea sometimes that she truly can't distinguish truth from lies, or reality from her made-up version of what is true. Which is just as scary as if she is deliberately lying...

[IndyPriest]

68. I think she believes what she's saying

which just tells me she's a Bush clone. I think they live in a bubble so thick the only news that gets in is the stuff they want to hear.

[Amaryllis]

154. That's what I think too so can it really be called lying or is it

delusional thinking? If they truly believe it, then it isn't lies, is it? I remember reading several times those in the know saying the scary thing about the neo cons is that they actually believe that what they say is the truth and that is even worse than someone who lies deliberately. Bush says his intuition and God tell him what is right...OMG.

[helderheid]

57. I can't believe Obama just said

he thought most of them were rooting for her success and this administrations success. :wtf: I mean, I'd love for everything to work out well but I cannot see how it's possible with this administration. Obama?? You're so cute but what are you smoking??

[mordarlar]

59. LOL attraction is blind? I think he was doing a little warming up lol

[helderheid]

61. I think you're right

I am not very diplomatic. That man is smoooooooooooooooth. :)

[mordarlar]

63. lol a new floating hearts club?

[helderheid]

66. no kidding!

:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

[mordarlar]

67. LOL i am too old to get goofy like this but....

I found him occupying a little bit to much of my brain yest lol


:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[4democracy]

62. I think he was just softening her up for the swift kick he gave her on

The "Trust Me Administration" I think Obama rocks!!

[Amaryllis]

64. Pres expects me to tell him the truth and argue vociferously if I disagree

* has made it clear that he does not want to hear any bad news or disagreement.

[IndyPriest]

76. Yes, and it's a deflecting answer. The troublesome thing is

she doesn't HAVE an opinion that differs from Bush. He finally got that total pod-person he wanted, not that sometimes cranky Powell.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

65. I just called Lugar's office yelling at how can say that Boxer has

a strong point of view. That the Truth is not a point of view!!!

[DemonFighterLives]

70. Biden tearing her up

Why with supposedly 120,000 trained Iraqi's are we still there?
Tell the whole story.
Condi- blah, blah blah

[SaveAmerica]

72. Was it Biden who just said "Rumsfeld doesn't know what the ****

he's talking about?" If so, I'm confused about why he's making such strong statements but turning around and sweeping away his footprints.

[DemonFighterLives]

83. Yeah he trashed Rummy

I don't know about his footprints, but he wants us out of Iraq and an exit strategy.

[Amaryllis]

71. Biden just said don't listen to Rumsfeld; he doesn't know what the hell

he is talking about! He kicked her butt and then said he was gonna vote for her! right after he said for God's sake, please tell the whole story!!! He practically called her a liar and then said he was gonna vote for her??

[SaveAmerica]

73. Thanks for answering my question as I wrote it!!! : )

[DemonFighterLives]

74. I thought he said vote on her

But maybe I got it wrong.

[SueZhope]

75. why would they vote for her?

I have been asking the same question.:shrug:

[anamandujano]

80. I can't wait to see who doesn't vote for her

if any

[IndyPriest]

77. WHo's the big black guy leading Condi around the room?

Is that a body-guard? A senate aide?

[DemonFighterLives]

78. Boxer is back

Says condi has the resume and endurance, but troubles her on her answers.

[SueZhope]

82. will she vote for her

I don't think so???

[DemonFighterLives]

88. Don't think she likes the lies and obfuscation

She said condi had the chance to explain things and she demurred.
Truly looks like the Dems are starting to get it. Gassing of kurds/Rummy
She just said she would not support her= in the minority.

[helderheid]

79. Boxer is back!

She was given a chance to set the record straight and chose not to - sighting each example of what she had the opportunity to set the record straight on. This is a wonderful "last word".

[alexisfree]

81. what...oh ok...just came back...thanks..

[mordarlar]

84. Honestly why can't more of them be like Boxer?

[IndyPriest]

85. Boxer: "(Rice's) testimony is a total assault on reality!"

[helderheid]

87. "I am unable to support this nomination"

I LOVE YOU BARBARA BOXER!

[Karenca]

86. Boxer; "Condo was given the opportunity to set the reacord straight, and

yet,
she didn't even pick up that challenge.
She said she never objected to the language wriiten by MCain regarding the prisoner abuse, when I have here exactly her quotes.
This is not right.
These areas are terribly troubling.
We gave her every opportunity on both sides.
I hope that Dr.Rice now gets that she is responsible to the American people.
I will not be able to support this nomination".

[alexisfree]

89. you know...those glasses on Barbara...very classy...

....

[SueZhope]

90. she is classy lady n/t

[alexisfree]

91. BOXER 2008!

[DemonFighterLives]

95. Kerry On!

Admires Rice, but our votes have to count for something.
Majority of Committee have reservations about many things happening in other countries.
Kerry votes his gut - Rice is implementer and defender of many of * policies

[mordarlar]

92. I am sitting dreaming about a Boxer/Conyers presidency:::sigh:::

[helderheid]

94. Boxer definitely must be on the ticket

I am wondering who with - Kerry really impressed me yesterday - he's on again!

[mordarlar]

101. I am glad to see Kerry speaking

Conyers deserves some due. Without him we literally would have been long dead in the water.

[alexisfree]

93. kerry!

[SueZhope]

96. he is gonna do the right thing!!! n/t

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

98. Kerry voting no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[4democracy]

99. Wow! Kerry is voting NO!!!

[helderheid]

100. Kerry is not going to support Condi! YES!

[SueZhope]

105. kerry kerry kerry

we love you for this!!!!

[IndyPriest]

97. Kerry's going to vote NO!

[DemonFighterLives]

102. If she is to be confirmed

It will be without my vote -Senator Kerry

[Karenca]

103. Kerry; "but our votes also have to count for something...the majority of

this committee has expressed serious considerations.
The judgements that have been made..I choose to vote my concerns, not to overlook them
Dr Rice is the architect of this admin. that has alienated much of the world, and has cost the lives ao many of our Americans.
i regret to say that I didnt see a need for a policy that the world needs, or even a new vision.
What I heard was a policy that predicts more of the same.
The refusal is stunning.
I hope I''m proven wrong, I'm prepared to work with Dr Rice...This confirmation will have to be WITHOUT my vote for reasons I have stated.

[alexisfree]

104. some of the members were poking their nose!

:puke:

[4democracy]

106. I'm thrilled he is voting no, but is it just a token vote to satisfy his

supporters?

[alexisfree]

107. about time!!!

[SueZhope]

108. I believe its REAL

why would any one vote for that women , she lies and lies and lies
as we know also incompetent. it would be easy to just say NO!!

[DemonFighterLives]

110. Dodd to vote for her

But he thanked Kerry and Boxer for there votes.
Why can't he vote along with them then?

[SueZhope]

122. I guess because

they want to have it both ways, show
that there onto here lies
but also want to be good soldiers
and not go against the grain.

Politics as usual :puke:

[IndyPriest]

109. When does No not mean NO?

When Kerry REALLY supports Bsh's policies?? NOT.

[4democracy]

125. When you know it is not going to make any difference, that it is a useless

gesture. They all know she is going to be confirmed. It would mean a lot more if there was a one vote margin and then Kerry voted no. The way it is, you can vote your conscience or your constituency and still know it won't rock the political boat.

[meganmonkey]

118. This isn't 'token' in any way

What he did is off protocol for this type of hearing. He pretty much said well, everyone is supposed to vote 'yes' even though she sucks, but I am actually going to vote the way I feel, which is 'no', because she sucks.

Pretty bad-ass, IMHO.

[seabeyond]

126. i know, why dont you just bit*h about something n/t

[4democracy]

130. I'll be glad to bitch about anything I choose to, in a public forum

in a supposedly FREE country! I am simply making a point this is not going to make a difference, when there have been ample opportunity to speak out on issues when it did make a difference. Voter disenfranchisement for example.

[seabeyond]

146. well see i didnt question your right to speak

so get your arguement right. i didnt question at all. i merely said find something to bitch about. a statement that i equally have the right to say. see how easy that works. tis the coolest. dontcha just love free speech. personally i do too

now,.............

what are you saying kerry hasnt talked about. cause i betcha you are wrong there too and i can show you where and when kerry talked about it.

yes kerry has talked voter disenfranchisement

iraq?

he has talked and talked and talked about iraq, just not many people listen. how about you, have you listened to him, because i have, so i can share with you what he has said on the subject, going way back when

facts, like boxer says, we dont need a made up story, which i suggest you are doing, we need the facts

[4democracy]

156. On Nov 3rd, Kerry could have made the voter disenfranchisment in Ohio

national headlines if at that time he would have spoken out. Not on his behalf or the behalf or his campaign, but for the voters that stood in line in the rain for hours.
I don't intend to get into an argument with you,I believe we are on the same side here. I have spent a very long time on the front lines of this fight. First in the Kerry campaign then in Ohio fighting for voters rights and the recount. I also spent a week in DC fighting to challenge the electoral college vote. So please don't try to tell me things you think I don't know, about politics in general and Kerry in particular.

[seabeyond]

160. we are talking voter disenfranchisement? day after election?

freezing rain and lines?

he did. didnt you hear. oh ya............they dont make much to do over what dems say. unless they have made such a roar about condi on nation tv, then they just say how BAD they are

he did say something about that, again and again

no one cared

[seabeyond]

161. what i would like to see, or hear from kerry or someone on

is why cant we charge blackwell with something. is there a law (and i have heard there is, dont know), that he blatanly broke that can have charges brought up against him. i think that would be the beginning in the next step of going after election fraud. i think this is doable and to prosecute someone would be important and a first step

[4democracy]

165. There is currently a project to research HAVA and the ways

it has been applied by states and of course their respective SOS. The law MAY have been broken, the results of these findings will be presented soon to people interested in pursuing possible legal action.
I would also love to see" Blacksnake" take a fall. One of my all time favorite threads on DU is the request not to spread his campaign address around!! lol
In fact I need to make sure no one has kicked that awful idea back up lately, if they haven't I'll have to post a reminder to everyone not to kick it.

[seabeyond]

166. cool thanks

The law MAY have been broken, the results of these findings will be presented soon to people

[alexisfree]

111. CNN front page!!

Boxer, Biden challenge Rice on Iraq

[IndyPriest]

112. Dodd: Rice is disingenous, and wrong on the issues, but

the president deserves to get what he wants. WTF??

[helderheid]

113. yes

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

[Karenca]

114. Biden; Looks like a 'no' ! ....nt

[helderheid]

115. Yes and now he's telling a story about a boy who stole?

Hmmmm wonder if he's talking about someone else.HEheheheh

[helderheid]

117. Biden predicts civil war and a generational problem becuase of Iraq

[DemonFighterLives]

120. Long story to tell

The administration doesn't tell us the whole story.
He going for Condi. x(

[helderheid]

123. It's so hard to believe he would

after this speech. He's beating up this administration big time.

[IndyPriest]

127. But, like Dodd, he's in the "the prez gets what he wants in his

team, awful as it is, digusting and wrong as it is." I just don't get this position. Is it: we'll confirm her because THEN we can hold her feet to the fire? I don't get it.

[seabeyond]

134. i think it is a lot about that indy, the holding feet to fire

she really is a lame duck. for the next four years it can be she is lying again. but also i think it is the belief bush gets to hire his team. something that has been really ragged on to the repugs is Bill in office and all the silly ass challenges. i know people say, she lies and proven, she did iraq should be in jail. well until she is in jail, she is part of administration

i am glad to see boxer and kerry vote no. doesnt hurt me at all biden voting yes. he said, out loud for the public and more to the bush administration, he is angry about iraq. and he has been yelling about it for a while. and will continue. i dont have issue with him voting for rice. i see where he is coming from, how he works. and dobb too

[DemonFighterLives]

129. He gets a clue now and then

But doesn't know if Condi is a neocon.
Mentioning the Iran objective.

Biden hopes Condi will Whoa, Whoa, Whoa any Iranian plan. ?? Don't count on it.

[mordarlar]

116. Too late Biden we are already saying it.

[helderheid]

119. Biden is earning my respect big time

[mordarlar]

124. Mine too. He gets what is going on. But to support her knowing we are...

losing faith just does not make sense. Give the president the right to his "family" so they can destroy us???????

[fooj]

I like Biden...just when i think he has mustered some courage...

POW!!! Well, almost! :cry:

[fooj]

121. I'm in tears!

I am so happy to hear that Kerry is joining Barbara Boxer with a NO vote! So, where are the other Democratic Senators? Why vote YES when they heard what we heard yesterday and this morning? "Start to tell the whole deal"...OK Joe, why cast a YES vote for someone who isn't? Truth. Truth. Truth. What has happened to behaving honorably? I am sooooo FRUSTRATED!

[IndyPriest]

128. I hear ya, fooj. Strange things. n/t

[fooj]

136. My God! When will this all stop?

It's a troubling time...What is everyone so afraid of? Why are people afraid to tell the truth? Geez...don't the American people deserve a little honesty? I think we need to tell every Dem Senator who voted for Rice EXACTLY what we think!

[SueZhope]

140. its great that Kerry acted with his words by saying NO

Biden feels the president should have his incompetent lieing family
in place .He is living in the hopes that she will change her ways
Why would she suddenly become honest and competent?
why do we reward these people. what is wrong with this picture
Shall I say what is right with it?

Boxer & Kerry
Thank you!!

[helderheid]

131. he's comparing this to a 2nd marriage??

Usually you have a DIFFERENT PARTNER Joe!!!

[mordarlar]

149. SERIOUSLY i have dated my ex husb. The damage is DONE!!!!

[alexisfree]

132. ..come on be part of boxer team...come on Biden

[SaveAmerica]

139. I was saying the same thing over here, he sounded like a kid..

I choose hope over experience.

[mordarlar]

133. And dismantling our constitution? Thats ok?

[seabeyond]

138. that is who "we the people" "voted" for

dismantling the constitituion is on bush and repugs. the people "voted" for it. now see this is hard arguement cause i have from day one been a believer bush stole election. so to ever say the people voted for it is contradiction for me. but..........every person bush puts in every office is gonna be puppet and bad. that is his administration. that is why we wanted someone different. that is why i dont like bush. one of the reasons. i have a lot

[mordarlar]

145. Biden said a no vote is warranted if the candidate is attempting to...

dismantle. They ARE dismantling. I feel ill. I agree and have KNOWN since 2000 they would steal this election. But i think when our people choose "hope" they are also accountable to our fall. :` (

[Karenca]

135. Kerry/Boxer 2008...My mind is made up...nt

[fooj]

141. The only 2 Senators with integrity...

How can you vote for someone you are frustrated with or that you have to publicly chastise for being less than honest! I don't get it!

[IndyPriest]

137. Boxer and Kerry: NO

[DemonFighterLives]

142. 16 yes, 2 no

I guess the other Dems. still want to play it safe. When will the line in the sand be drawn?

[meganmonkey]

144. Who said "Good Job" when Kerry said No? Did anyone else hear that?

SOmeone in the background, but close enough to a microphone, said 'Good Job" when he voted no..... A male voice.

:shrug:

[DemonFighterLives]

147. Don't know and can't say I heard it

Maybe it was Obama, cause he had to play it safe instead of voting truthfully. :-)

[Karenca]

143. Why not?...nt

[SaveAmerica]

148. I think that's saying Boxer and Kerry voted 'NO'

[IndyPriest]

158. Correct! Sorry for the confusion! :-)

Kerry and Boxer would be a great team. In many ways, they are already!

[fooj]

150. They just said Condi has passed her test! OMG...

These Dems have let this country down...I'm tired of being supportive and understanding and patient...It is SIMPLE! The only two senators who had a backbone...Boxer and Kerry. Biden was on with a triple...just needed to make it home and could not deliver! What happened to Dodd? Forget Feinstein...she's worthless. Ugh!!! And Obama? All talk, no walk! Very disappointing!

[helderheid]

151. I posted in another thread

that AAR is speculating they are holding their votes for lifetime nominees which makes sense.

[BR_Parkway]

157. Holding their votes? Why, is there a quota and they don't want to use

them up? How can they question her telling the truth in the past, then question her telling them the truth in the hearings AND vote to confirm her?

By doing that, it somehow makes the NO vote more meaningful down the road on a lifetime appointment?

[helderheid]

159. I'm no politician

[fooj]

164. apparently, that's a good thing!

:hug:

[DemonFighterLives]

152. Like Biden said when he washed his hands

Pray that she stops W from more horrors.
Pray that they train enough Iraq's to take over.
Pray that they start being honest.
Good luck with those prayers!

[mordarlar]

153. Condi has never said no to * in her life!!!! She will not start now.

[DemonFighterLives]

155. Yep, a good weekend at the ranch

And she will bobblehead all of his wishes. :-)

[JoMama49]

163. Actually, Senator Chaffee (R) from Rhode Island

questioned her more forcefully than did the Dems? Apparently, he's been to Venezuela and is appalled by how Rice & * are demonizing the democratically elected government there.

[pacalo]

167. Yes! His questioning was as testy as the Democrats'!

I admire him for standing up against the odds for the truth. I just knew there had to be some Republicans who won't be cookie cutters for this administration.